Harry Potter…Again…From the Beginning…on HBO

There's also that WBD has been flailing for a while. DC movies has been a shitpit for a decade now, HBO Max is evidently too much of a money hole for their tastes given by how they've been hacking away at it, and so on. The success of the wizard game must have given them enough faith in the IP that combined with their desperation makes a remake the obvious "we need money now" button.
 
The depressing thought is that, despite everything Rowling has done to torch HP's value, is that this is still probably the cheaper option for WBD than just buying her toxic ass out.

IP Laws suck
 
IP law did this. In a sane world, you could make any Magic Boarding School show and not just The One From My Childhood, or if you did make the latter it would not automatically send royalties to the original TERF creator. With IP law as is though business keeps churning out content for whichever popular IPs they have monopolies over, because we're a captive audience raised in pavlovian fashion to go for The One From My Childhood.

Seriously imagine someone doing this, but for a fresh new IP inspired by works like Harry Potter. You'd still have the child actor issue, but the pacing and redundancy problems would be gone.
In a world without IP law, you could also make a version of Harry Potter that textually and thematically destroys every bigoted thing Rowling stands for, which is fun.
 
Because the people who don't outright hate us don't care. We must consume the wizard IP. Let's ignore how it destroyed children's book publishing, or how derivative it is, or all the racism and sexism. It's The Thing I Know. Hooray.

I'm just so done. I'm done with everyone who will defend this. With everyone who'll say we're making too much fuss, or have dared to have too loud an opinion in the wrong way, or will act like we're unjustified because some random fuckwit decides to send a death threat and suddenly our argument is invalid. I'm just done. Joanne wins once more.
 
Aside from everything else wrong with this decision, I wonder if they'll make TV Hermione black considering how Book Hermione caring about the treatment of house else was treated as a joke.
 
Let's ignore how it destroyed children's book publishing, or how derivative it is, or all the racism and sexism.
I know about the racism bit regarding house elves and goblins, but what's this about HP wrecking children's books? How is it derivative (presumably of past fantasy or boarding school books)? I'm not sure taking inspiration from past media is bad, either...
Aside from everything else wrong with this decision, I wonder if they'll make TV Hermione black considering how Book Hermione caring about the treatment of house else was treated as a joke.
Were there many black folk in 1990s Britain? The school did have a few Asian characters, from memory, but Britain isn't quite like the USA in terms of population count for non-white folk. I think. As an Australian I could be entirely off here.
 
I know about the racism bit regarding house elves and goblins, but what's this about HP wrecking children's books? How is it derivative (presumably of past fantasy or boarding school books)? I'm not sure taking inspiration from past media is bad, either...

Were there many black folk in 1990s Britain? The school did have a few Asian characters, from memory, but Britain isn't quite like the USA in terms of population count for non-white folk. I think. As an Australian I could be entirely off here.
I mean, aside from the answer being yes, the actual thing I was talking about is that Hermione's concern for the slavery of house elves is played as a joke by the books. This would, rather naturally, become incredible awkward if HBO case a black woman in the role of Hermione since they'd be making light of a black woman thinking slavery is bad.
 
Why can't I live in the timeline where Animorphs took off instead?
 
I know about the racism bit regarding house elves and goblins, but what's this about HP wrecking children's books? How is it derivative (presumably of past fantasy or boarding school books)? I'm not sure taking inspiration from past media is bad, either...

Were there many black folk in 1990s Britain? The school did have a few Asian characters, from memory, but Britain isn't quite like the USA in terms of population count for non-white folk. I think. As an Australian I could be entirely off here.

At the time there would have been just under a million Black British people, which is plenty enough to include a few.

I can't speak for how HP ruined publishing, though I've heard the claim before. But…yeah, it's pretty derivative. The name 'Hogwarts' first showed up in Ronald Searle's school stories in the 50's, which Rowling is known to be a fan of. Those books also have a character called Headmistress Umbrage, along with various bit characters with names like Tonks, Hermione, Scrimgeour, and Millicent. There are some eerily similar character designs, too.

Make of that one what you will.

Beyond that, HP wasn't the first British kids series about a magic school, or the first series to have a book for every school year. It just hit it big in ways that, say, The Worst Witch or whatever didn't. It's pretty clearly building off the rather old boarding school genre which, while not inherently a bad thing, isn't really a sign of originality either.
 
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I mean, I got why Hogwarts Legacy was so hyped up. If you were part of the like 95% of the HP fanbase who are not the specific brand plugged into the internet to be aware of the general rancidness of the politics surrounding the franchise, Legacy looks like the game everyone was begging since the first book.

This tho? Who was asking for this? We're not even 15 years past the end of the last movie, the Nostalgia Cycle is not oiled up yet.
 
All the immorality of giving money to Rowling aside:

Considering how much padding storylines they are going to have to develop wholecloth to make ten episodes per book, their going to actually have to worldbuilding on this.

Worldbuilding that they've put Rowling, she of MACUSA and shitting Wizards, in charge of.

Even without the transphobia, anti-semitism and unironic love for the British class system; this is already giving off Season 8 GoT energy.

God help those child actors, especially Hermione's
 
I mean, I got why Hogwarts Legacy was so hyped up. If you were part of the like 95% of the HP fanbase who are not the specific brand plugged into the internet to be aware of the general rancidness of the politics surrounding the franchise, Legacy looks like the game everyone was begging since the first book.

This tho? Who was asking for this? We're not even 15 years past the end of the last movie, the Nostalgia Cycle is not oiled up yet.
Well, Rowling is already old and might not be alive enough to collect royalties by the time Nostalgia Cycle is oiled up, and HBO has to compensate for their cartoonpocalypse blunder somehow. Besides, it's only a matter of time before she antagonizes even the part of HP fanbase that isn't terminally online, so what do they have to lose by milking the franchise dry too early?
 
Still, even if the cancel it midway through that's ten years worth of budget set aside.

I'd bet House of the Dragon doesn't have assurances that they'll be allowed to proceed to the full (presumably much smaller) number of seasons they envision?
 
God help those child actors, especially Hermione's
ugh I just felt a repressed memory bubble up that made my skin crawl. Does anyone else remember how terribly Emma Watson was treated by the media and the culture at large? Imagine being a sixteen year old girl going through changes as you mature into an adult and then seeing grown men joke about wanting to have sex with you and everyone laughing along. Like seriously now that I think about it SNL, Mad TV, Robot Chicken and probably a dozen other fairly main stream comedy things all made the "joke" about how sexy they thought this real underage girl was.
 
ugh I just felt a repressed memory bubble up that made my skin crawl. Does anyone else remember how terribly Emma Watson was treated by the media and the culture at large? Imagine being a sixteen year old girl going through changes as you mature into an adult and then seeing grown men joke about wanting to have sex with you and everyone laughing along. Like seriously now that I think about it SNL, Mad TV, Robot Chicken and probably a dozen other fairly main stream comedy things all made the "joke" about how sexy they thought this real underage girl was.
Oh if you can believe it, it's worse than just that.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rekv07kFts

A message from her to her fans on her 18th birthday, followed immediately by an interview with her years later where she relays how when she came out of her 18th biirthday party paparazzi were laying down on the pavement taking pictures up her skirt.
 
Okay, but imagine J. K. Rowling backporting stuff from the end of the series to the start to make it all tonally consistent.
 
Okay, but imagine J. K. Rowling backporting stuff from the end of the series to the start to make it all tonally consistent.
Ah yes I too want Philosopher's Stone to be a dour affair with all the joy sucked out of it. :V

Though frankly what I'd like is an entirely new creative to just go buckwild on the whole thing and fiddle and tweak it into a new version of the story with interesting creative ideas following Rowling giving away the rights in an all-night bender of madness. But I think safe to say that's prrrrrobably not gonna happen.
 
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Ah yes I too want Philosopher's Stone to be a dour affair with all the joy sucked out of it. :V

Though frankly what I'd like is an entirely new creative to just go buckwild on the whole thing and fiddle and tweak it into a new version of the story with interesting creative ideas following Rowling giving away the rights in an all-night bender of madness. But I think safe to say that's prrrrrobably not gonna happen.
Since Rowling is an executive producer, I'm expected full-blast late Rowling stream.
 
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