I'm slightly disappointed that Will is 2d but it's sweet to see the established world react to his 2d bullshit in so much detail. I hope Brock gets to conront Giovanni and have an honest discussuion someday.
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Time for Brock to draw Blaine aggro when he gets those Hisuian Arcanines up and running.
He isn't 2d. Arguably, it can be said that Will's situation is Brock's fault (at least tangentially). Will's introducton was as a Corpo Trainer that got a surprise backing politically (and financially, due to the betting) by Mayor Jonathan who only got as prominent as he did due to Brock's successes with the gym. Will then scouted Brock and got immediately more desperate when he realized just how deep and wide Brock's pool of strength is, thus opening him up to Rocket influence (which presumably introduced itself as 'just another corpo' at the start, but that's speculation). Now we saw last chapter that Will is getting the honeypot treatment to turn him from a Corpo Trainer with aims for Elite 4, into also being a Rocket resource.
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Actually, thinking about it, what are the Gym Types that exist in Kanto right now, and how can Brock get at least one Pokemon for every Type for his Gym?
He's got Water, Ground, Steel, Bug, Psychic, Flying, Dark, Electric, Grass so far
He's got Water, Ground, Steel, Bug, Psychic, Flying, Dark, Electric, Grass so far
I suspect it's because the people building the Gym didn't think about them overloading.
Simply put, oversight due to inexperience born out of the people involved not ever hearing stuff about the War, meaning they never really thought of them as a security concern, just a security measure.
Like the difference between putting a lock on a door, and hooking it up to an alarm.
Simply put, oversight due to inexperience born out of the people involved not ever hearing stuff about the War, meaning they never really thought of them as a security concern, just a security measure.
Like the difference between putting a lock on a door, and hooking it up to an alarm.
Except they were made to not cause fires anymore, so it's not considered an issue
A simple way around that is to have an alarm sound if the emitter is not using power anymore. When an electronic stops working it will either change how much electricity is flowing through the wires or stop entirely. So having a secondary alarm that just monitors the electrical output to the emitters will solve that. Modern security systems have this feature so that a burglar can't just cut the power to your house to bypass it.
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Yeah probably gonna be in the next upgrade, no one expected there to be a psychic powerful enough to just rip through the Dark barriers.
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The other option, and the one most likely used in the war, was to have a group of relatively powerful psychic Pokemon hammer the emitters simultaneously. If finesse isn't a viable option then usually your best bet is to reach for the biggest hammer you can get your hands on.
The Hisuian Arcanine will take a while to set up the environment for and do the breeding to successfully get there also probably won't be too many because each still needs a Fire Stone to evolve.
Will brought this on himself the thing that got him desperate was realising Brock had noticed Will studying him and probably worked out he was supplying others with Psychic types and then that highly illegal stunt of trying to falsely charge Forrest and read his mind where he saw he wasn't the only one with powers and Brock's could counter his.
If he had just shown up and fought a clean fight then he'd actually still have a decent shot because it doesn't take much to realise Lance wants Lorelai out and of course Agatha is old. With such a turnover he could even hope for Bruno getting replaced too. Other than him Brock has turned down the position, Karen is competing but there is more than one spot and that's about it that we know of. Brock beat Lance the champion so losing to him isn't that harmful to his chances of Elite 4 if he fought clean and had a decent showing especially with Brock's ace being a dark type. The real obstacle he'd have is Sabrina because she also has powers which are likely stronger than his and uses the same type so losing that one wouldn't look good.
Instead he used a ton of cheap shots and took aid from Team Rocket of both being given Jynx, Mewtwo's tampering and possibly the Slowking evolution method which has pretty much cemented Brock as his enemy, made him extremely unpopular with the public, probably turned most of the gym leaders against him and put himself in the dangerous position of the cheating and aid getting noticed especially since he now lacks that aid and Jynx. His attitude afterwards both to Brock and whining about how they should have cheated more to give him the win is also extremely telling and unflattering.
Yeah but kind of hard to sneak so many mons in
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You can fit one in your pocket easily, dozens in a suitcase.
Having anti teleportin defenses not have a "fail loud" mode is irresponsible at best.
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I imagine the reasoning could go something like "If your physical security has been breached to the point where that many psychic mons are in the building, ten other alarms have already triggered", but Mewtwo is a major out of context problem - a psychic Pokémon so powerful that it represents a critical security breach on its own.
I meant that the dozens of powerful and deployed psychics needed to simultaneously crush all the Dark jammers would normally be beyond concealment, a weaker pulse would fry one but likely set off the next nearest.
Normally you're looking at either a full assault where the alarm won't matter or a stealth agent using a precision psybeam to breach, in which case they'd silence it too.
Normally you're looking at either a full assault where the alarm won't matter or a stealth agent using a precision psybeam to breach, in which case they'd silence it too.
In order to prepare for something, you first have to think of it, and as the last match has shown, there's a lot of people who can't imagine this type of thing happening, and the ones who know it's possible don't talk about it.
The war was so terrible that everyone who fought in it refuse to talk about it, but that is leading to the people they aren't talking to making a lot of their mistakes all over again.
Situations like this are why you communicate with people, but that hasn't been happening.
The war was so terrible that everyone who fought in it refuse to talk about it, but that is leading to the people they aren't talking to making a lot of their mistakes all over again.
Situations like this are why you communicate with people, but that hasn't been happening.
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Basics of making proper security devices should not really be lost though.
You can make a "this thing ain't on" alarm with a transistor, a buzzer and some wire, and pretty much any important piece of tech should have one.
Like, say, anti teleport/mind read generators in a military installation.
You can make a "this thing ain't on" alarm with a transistor, a buzzer and some wire, and pretty much any important piece of tech should have one.
Like, say, anti teleport/mind read generators in a military installation.
That's predicated on you thinking "it's possible something could damage them enough to shut them off" which the people who designed and built the Gym clearly didn't.
Especially when people who work there have to be reminded that the Gym counts as a military installation.
Especially when people who work there have to be reminded that the Gym counts as a military installation.
I imagine that Brock is going to be telling all his Gym Leader friends about this and recommending putting up some sort of alarm so they can prevent this from happening.
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Is that strictly the only issue? As I see it this isn't just a case of "these could be sabotaged", this is also a matter of "these are systems that we are dependant on not failing."
It's a bit like having a sprinkler system without a fire alarm, flood defences without an alert system, a telephone without a bell, or a car tank without a fuel gauge. In a world where such quality of life (or more vital) systems are not standard operating procedure, why hasn't it been internalised to have regular manual checks during matches?
As worldbuilding goes It doesn't ring true to me, and just feels ridiculous and very shoddy or lazy in-universe behaviour.
If a psychic inhibitor exists to inhibit psychics then, unless I have very much overlooked something, it specifically exists to prevent psychic interference in a match.
Meaning, psychic tampering is a known quantity.
But we don't need any alarms or checks on that? On a major competitive, televised sport? One that is routinely gambled on?
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KlinkerKing
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There are checks and alarms on it, it's stated in the chapter. Mewtwo somehow bypassed them by acting faster than the alarm could trigger - there are definitely windows to account for a brief power outage in many alarm systems, even if just a few seconds so the back-up generator can get online. If Mewtwo can take out the alarm system or trigger while the power is out, that could be one way.
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In my mind, the system was designed to be checked like once a week, with the assumption that the dozens of emitters acted as redundancy by design. If your house has 40 smoke detectors everywhere, even if 25% fail, there's enough detectors by volume that at least some of them will detect the smoke and ring, together if wired together. For 99% of cases, this is typically enough.
But that doesn't work if a big enough bomb wipes the house off the map. Most Psychic shows of force are generally not strong enough, coordinated enough, to bust dozens of redundancies in one go without being very obvious about it. Mewtwo is probably the only one alive who can.
But that doesn't work if a big enough bomb wipes the house off the map. Most Psychic shows of force are generally not strong enough, coordinated enough, to bust dozens of redundancies in one go without being very obvious about it. Mewtwo is probably the only one alive who can.
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Blaargh.
Alarms, failsafes, etc. Apologies, I'll try something typing more coherent once I've slept.
I slept. Hopefully this is a little better.
Okay, so what I attempted (and failed) to convey is that this system appears incomplete.
You have thedetector emitter. You have the warning. But there is no apparent checks, no fault tolerance or contingency in the event of failure.
If the system exists, which it does, it was installed with a purpose and should have been planned accordingly.
When Dark Emitter functional: inhibit Psychic Interference.
If the Dark Emitter burns out: send alarm.
If alarm fails: ??? Nothing, I guess. Maybe?
Where is the intrusion detection? The Dark Emitter exists to prevent Psychic funnybusiness, but they are worthless if a psychic can disable the alarm and its redundancies before or during the frying of the emitter itself...
... and it's not a new invention. It's literally millitary use, and common enough for at least a vet to carry one around as a portable device. But the most important time we hear about the Emitter in use, it has completely and utterly failed.
That's partly a complaint about Mewtwo but the device itself falls down narratively, because we've never seen the Dark Emitter systems function clearly to begin with. We are aware it exists, and we know roughly what it does, but we have no great examples of it functioning. We only have examples of nothing happening.
Perhaps more accurately, we have no examples of the detectors systems and failsafes working. The only direct example of the Emitter functioning, is here...
... where Brock can sense the Emitter functioning in the walls of the Gym, when he focuses (and perhaps is emotionally aligned). Which is very limited in scope, and can't be relied upon as Brock was understandably distracted during the battle. It doesn't really excuse the lack of failsafe states. It doesn't elaborate on why Sabrina didn't notice anything (or even if she could have to begin with). It doesn't permit for regular manual checks (or even guards), as I addressed above. It doesn't account for personal Dark Emitters being carried on individual persons on staff (or in the audience!).
It does kind of diminish the scope of the War, and its veterans, at least a little bit, for me.
So... in short it feels like the emitters are there, in current story form, just to convieniently fail to Mewtwo.
Admittedly, I am assuming the portable Dark Emitter for blocking scrying and the fixed, larger Gym devices work the same way, but it seems reasonable that they are since the text presents them that way.
Alarms, failsafes, etc. Apologies, I'll try something typing more coherent once I've slept.
I slept. Hopefully this is a little better.
Okay, so what I attempted (and failed) to convey is that this system appears incomplete.
You have the
If the system exists, which it does, it was installed with a purpose and should have been planned accordingly.
When Dark Emitter functional: inhibit Psychic Interference.
If the Dark Emitter burns out: send alarm.
If alarm fails: ??? Nothing, I guess. Maybe?
Where is the intrusion detection? The Dark Emitter exists to prevent Psychic funnybusiness, but they are worthless if a psychic can disable the alarm and its redundancies before or during the frying of the emitter itself...
... and it's not a new invention. It's literally millitary use, and common enough for at least a vet to carry one around as a portable device. But the most important time we hear about the Emitter in use, it has completely and utterly failed.
That's partly a complaint about Mewtwo but the device itself falls down narratively, because we've never seen the Dark Emitter systems function clearly to begin with. We are aware it exists, and we know roughly what it does, but we have no great examples of it functioning. We only have examples of nothing happening.
Perhaps more accurately, we have no examples of the detectors systems and failsafes working. The only direct example of the Emitter functioning, is here...
... where Brock can sense the Emitter functioning in the walls of the Gym, when he focuses (and perhaps is emotionally aligned). Which is very limited in scope, and can't be relied upon as Brock was understandably distracted during the battle. It doesn't really excuse the lack of failsafe states. It doesn't elaborate on why Sabrina didn't notice anything (or even if she could have to begin with). It doesn't permit for regular manual checks (or even guards), as I addressed above. It doesn't account for personal Dark Emitters being carried on individual persons on staff (or in the audience!).
It does kind of diminish the scope of the War, and its veterans, at least a little bit, for me.
So... in short it feels like the emitters are there, in current story form, just to convieniently fail to Mewtwo.
Admittedly, I am assuming the portable Dark Emitter for blocking scrying and the fixed, larger Gym devices work the same way, but it seems reasonable that they are since the text presents them that way.
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