- Location
- Little Rock, AR
Or like Explosion it's chose your target and the biology of magic creatures ain't so much magc as to be critical existence failure..Academic Guardian said:
Halkegenia Online Thread 6 - //"Pixies!"\\
- Thread starter Triggerhappy
- Start date
Xexilf
Oblivion Sempiternum Daemonis
Ok, question for those versed in ZnT Canon:
Shai'tans gate. What do we actually know for sure?
It leads potentially to other world. Its guarded by the elves, its activity responds to the number of active void mages.
Was built by brimir. The elves fear it for some reason but cant destroy it.
Correct so far? Anything else we know?
Shai'tans gate. What do we actually know for sure?
It leads potentially to other world. Its guarded by the elves, its activity responds to the number of active void mages.
Was built by brimir. The elves fear it for some reason but cant destroy it.
Correct so far? Anything else we know?
That depends on the exact nature of the catastrophe, though. Albion doesn't float that high - people don't suffer altitude sickness on it, for example. If the windstones only lift the landmass to that altitude, then it's not going to be an extinction event, because all the crap released simply isn't going to get high enough to have a global effect. Such a catastrophe would presumably have a global impact by fucking with ocean currents and the like, and it would be inevitable death for anybody inside the affected area unless they were lucky enough to be on a large chunk of ground that lifted relatively intact (like Albion, basically). Of course, if it triggers a set of massive volcanic eruptions, then those could be an extinction level event.Academic Guardian said:
Exsequens
I Ent Dead!
- Location
- Back in the Toaster.
Next thing you know she unlocks World Gate, an uncontrollable one that is, one that sends her across the multiverse and chases her whenever she returns to her terra firma, and therein she will discover, she's had it pretty fine and dandy in Halkeginia Online compared to a lot of other universes... at least till she picks up The Luggage. (Translate that how you want, picking up figurative luggage from alternate universes like some guy in a blue and white tracksuit or a suitcase that even gods are known to fear.)Triggerhappy said:
Anzer'ke
Anarchism Ho!
This makes me think of an idea that has been floating around in my head since the mention of that chainmail flowing like cloth. Mainly because chainmail, being made of chain, will not do this no matter how well you make it. I sincerely doubt that modern tech could create such a thing, let alone hammer and forge and so forth.Archons said:
This started me thinking, what if instead of/as well as being inhumanly capable at fields that they master. The Fae carry the ability, a sort of subtle innate magic, to make the results of their work slightly better than should be possible. Ie, they can make chainmail that is a little (or in cases of true mastery in a field, like Kofu, a lot) better than chainmail has any right being even when crafted by them out of those materials. Call it a hang over from the Transition trying to make concepts real or imposition of personal reality or plain ol' Orky-style reality bending belief or whatever but it seems an interesting idea to me.
In this case it just occurs that if say Saito, could then attain mastery of healing as a skill (which his irl knowledge places him close enough to reach for already) then he might just be able to heal a little beyond what should work. This also occurs as a way to put a limiter on the Fae just spamming massively high level stuff at a certain point in industrialisation. Even if a Fae builds the factory, the machines won't mimic that ability after all.
Meaning that Fae crafting remains relevant even at that point, meaning we have reason for more magitek development!
noahgab1133
Fluffy?
poor suguha. She needs yui to help her more XD
- Location
- Third planet from the star named Sol
- Pronouns
- He/They
Rincewind, as in one word. Also, you have yet to add the epilogues to the index.Triggerhappy said:
Triggerhappy
Stick with Trigger and You'll Make it Through
- Location
- SoCal
That's because I have one last post to write.NotAlwaysFanfic said:
Also, I don't know if people will find it funny or a pointless inclusion. I'm sure it's actually pretty stupid but I find it amusing.
LGear
Secret Society BLANKET
Don't worry, we'll be the judge of that.Triggerhappy said:
It will be funny though if this fic gets something like a post-fic credits scroll... before the 2nd arc starts
mdkcde
"Emotions are prohibited"
- Location
- Nani Sore?
Robo Jesus
Your Mechanical Messiah
Add quotation marks around the "I see". Beyond that, didn't spot anything else right away in need of correction.Triggerhappy said:
This is some what different from what I've heard from other people in this thread. I suppose it would be useful to cross reference this with some one else who is supposed to be well versed in Zero no Tsukaima, like Felix or Flere.Onel said:
Do you have any quotes from the text that it works like that? This doesn't actually match how standard physics would deal with it after all. Thus it instead would have to be a feature of the magic itself instead then. As such it would be rather useful to have some kind of extra information on that from a source.
- Location
- Outrealms
It seems to me that when you make assumptions like this you usually end up wrong.Triggerhappy said:
Besides, when have we turned down something pointless and amusing?
The problem with this is, is that this self same test can be applied to Louise, a student at a magical academy. If she'd failed such a simple initial test at birth, she'd never have been there in the first place.Onel said:
If you want your theory to go beyond being speculative, you need to show why for instance why it did not lead to similar consequences for all other Void mages.
The problem is, is that her explosions are with fairly high likelihood Void Magic, considering how they disrupt even high level magic constructs. Something a near blunt with magic should not be able to do at all.Onel said:
Which means you're trying to prove she'd passed the magic test by basically being a Void magic from Birth. A rather unusual coincidence for it to have happened like that. As well as thus proving at all that she didn't have any other possible magical affinities.
That turns your entire premise over Josette in to speculation then though. I can't really say you are right or wrong with this sadly, just that it's a possibility. Though I can't help but think it's a bit odd that Louise with her family background really wouldn't have been able to do any elemental magic. It some how just seems a bit unlikely that the child of two square mages just is no good at all... Especially when you consider that in Brimir time I believe all of his tribe were magically capable, which gives the impression that magicless children from such unions should be rare indeed.Onel said:
Or how to put it another way, it just some how feels more complex a solution. As well as having requirements you'd not normally expect in a tribe of all magical users. What's the point of a Void inheritance that will never happen? (So far as Brimir might expect to happen)
Xexilf
Oblivion Sempiternum Daemonis
very unlikely, at least not without void magic. Its likely been attempted by the elves, and they certainly couldnt get rid of that gate.NecroMechanoid said:
And even then you may need brimir level void magic, which might require all four of todays void mages to work together.
If not, one might speculatively seek a way to launch them in to the Sun instead?NecroMechanoid said:
- Location
- Oblivion
The rock isn't going to fall, that's a common misconception.Quickshot0 said:
Think of windstones in ZnT like flotation devices the more power they have the more they can lift. But that doesn't mean that when they lose power they fall out of the sky it instead means that as they lose power the objects lifted start loosing altitude to the point where they gently descend to the surface.
Think of it like the Familicide spell from order of the stick or the bloodline spell from The Dresden Files.Triggerhappy said:
If I am remembering right it was somewhere between 1-2km above sealevel.Gore17 said:
Anzer'ke
Anarchism Ho!
*Reads the void speculation*
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...Welp! I have nothing (other than pointing out that to Agelastus that Sasha and Brimir always had tension due to how he forced their partnership, he was hardly ever more than a convenient ally to the elves) to contribute to that, so here's another fun thought from me.
Thinking on all that speculation about the Fae doing stuff like creating healthcare systems and the like two things occurred.
Firstly that they are pretty much certain to have the Valliere's support at the very least. After all, Karin will want Fae medicine for Cattleya and it's a very reasonable thing for whatever doctor to point out that it goes against their beliefs to limit treatment.
"I'm sorry your grace, but I swore to help every person that I could. I cannot only treat your own daughter while others suffer for the lack."
Secondly though, consider what a massive propaganda coup this would be for the coming conflict. Imagine the Albion citizens take on that.
-The Fae returned and obviously would have wished to return to the isle of Medb. Something supported by their presence, helping those they met and obvious allegiance to the Prince Valiant.
-The Fae were driven out and angered severely by Reconquista. See the Zae, the conflict and again the Fae allegiance to the Prince.
-Where the Fae have ended up, Tristain, they are doing all these wonderful things for the common people.The people of the country where the Prince has ended up.
-Meanwhile having just went through a war, conditions on Albion are most definitely not going to be...peachy.
Obviously they would have brought all these things to Albion were it not for Reconquista. Cue a nice bit of easily spread propaganda.
Not to mention it makes it really unlikely that Reconquista would find any traction among the population of Tristain. They like the Fae and would know that Reconquista wants to do horrible things to their new, incredibly giving and friendly neighbours.
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...Welp! I have nothing (other than pointing out that to Agelastus that Sasha and Brimir always had tension due to how he forced their partnership, he was hardly ever more than a convenient ally to the elves) to contribute to that, so here's another fun thought from me.
Thinking on all that speculation about the Fae doing stuff like creating healthcare systems and the like two things occurred.
Firstly that they are pretty much certain to have the Valliere's support at the very least. After all, Karin will want Fae medicine for Cattleya and it's a very reasonable thing for whatever doctor to point out that it goes against their beliefs to limit treatment.
"I'm sorry your grace, but I swore to help every person that I could. I cannot only treat your own daughter while others suffer for the lack."
Secondly though, consider what a massive propaganda coup this would be for the coming conflict. Imagine the Albion citizens take on that.
-The Fae returned and obviously would have wished to return to the isle of Medb. Something supported by their presence, helping those they met and obvious allegiance to the Prince Valiant.
-The Fae were driven out and angered severely by Reconquista. See the Zae, the conflict and again the Fae allegiance to the Prince.
-Where the Fae have ended up, Tristain, they are doing all these wonderful things for the common people.The people of the country where the Prince has ended up.
-Meanwhile having just went through a war, conditions on Albion are most definitely not going to be...peachy.
Obviously they would have brought all these things to Albion were it not for Reconquista. Cue a nice bit of easily spread propaganda.
Not to mention it makes it really unlikely that Reconquista would find any traction among the population of Tristain. They like the Fae and would know that Reconquista wants to do horrible things to their new, incredibly giving and friendly neighbours.
Biigoh
Tanuki
- Location
- Tanukia
Problem with this is that Reconquista has fifth column traitors in Tristian's nobility.Anzer'ke said:
Robo Jesus
Your Mechanical Messiah
I think also that people forget to try and discuss what the Elves were doing during all of this as well.Agelastus said:
Quite honestly, I think the Elves, or at least one major group of them, pretty much provoked a lot (if not all) of the shit that occured with Brimir and company there. No one is therefore "Innocent" in that affair (save perhaps the young), but there is more to that event and the contexts surrounding it than many people think or acknowledge. I also don't buy the excuse that the Elves haven't invaded Halk because "They're better people than those dirty barbarians", but rather I think they're scared out of their mind of another Void Mage capable of killing them all appearing, and so go out of their way to create excuses to "Box them in and forget about them" than interact with them and whatnot. After all, one Void Mage was already able to kill half of them, why provoke a situation which may create another if they can't be certain that they can kill them in time.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
And the number of would-be traitors may be larger or smaller in this 'verse. On one hand Tristain has pulled off a major military victory which has removed the threat of an 'immediate' Reconquista invasion. This help convince the 'fence-sitters' to support the throne instead of preparing to sell the royal family out to save their own skins.biigoh said:
On the other hand there is the situation with the Fae which is forming three factions in the nobility: the Opportunists, the Moderates, and the Radicals. Based on the description of the faction, depending on how the various agreements go the Radicals might be an additional source of Reconquista traitors in the country.