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Well at least now we know why he liked knives so muchTriggerhappy said:Oh come one, they're perfect for each other. The Knife Kid and the Dagger Loli.
Well at least now we know why he liked knives so muchTriggerhappy said:Oh come one, they're perfect for each other. The Knife Kid and the Dagger Loli.
1) Either they were born Void mages, or they became so at a young age. All of them started practicing at a young age, while Vittorio was discovered as a baby/child. When one of them dies, it transfers to someone else.Onel said:
Not Wife. Waifu.Triggerhappy said:So Kirito gets bonus skill [<Asuna's Wife]> and gains amazing cooking abilities when using his faction disguise?
Heh. One ultimate Kirito-centric way. And quite a few others.sLeepY100 said:
Doubtful, most Gardens are simply not going to have been discovered yet. And Tarbes was comparatively tame mob wise.Exsequens said:I'm not Joseph level of apathetic yet. ~
Did some researching a bit between prepping a presentation, I guess it is exclusive. Dayum, no matter.
BTW, just asking before I go writing something in my free time (That isn't spent on practicing how to draw two people fighting.), what are the possibilities that some Pixie Gardens may not have fared as well as the situation in Tarbes? (As in, awareness raised, realizing Pixies are capable of reasoning, not going around thinking to destroy Pixie Gardens so and so.) Are there possibly some which may have been destroyed by human intervention prior to some Pixie Protection Laws being passed?
I doubt they are more busy than Argo.Faraway-R said:
Not necessarily. SAO group did a good split to cover every race possible so before they absence on "everybody's meeting" it could been that in time of transition they just were in different race capital than Klein and two others.Zaiaku said:
I'm not entirely sure how much going to another continent would help in this case, I went and calculated the power release of 1 cubic kilometer of rock falling down to Earth from about 5 km (Minus air resistance, but hey, how much will air stop something that big anyway?) and got a figure equivalent to 32 MT of TNT.LGear said:As to the problem of the Windstone Crisis... you know, the Fae are not going to be as bound by the Church's edicts as the rest of Halkegenia is despite the treaty, since while they're not supposed to blaspheme or antagonize the Church, they're not really as subservient to it either. Thus. who here thinks that if the Windstone Crisis is real and inevitable, that the Fae are going to propose the most obvious solution to them and just go to Halk's version of the Americas? Well, they need to find out if there is a continent on the place where it should be, but still...
If you have writers block, just start describing a scene. doesn't have to have a plot idea, just a scene, and the story will flow from there. It's the best way to get into it, you just describe the area, and eventually, you'll find yourself writing an idea you didn't know you had.Exsequens said:Fuuu... sick, wants to draw Aki, but I have a Russian to draw, and a story-writing assignment to get on with. And I still have writer's block. Fuck.
Anyways, now I feel a bit of warm fuzz at Kino possibly striking up a love with Silica. Ike, shounen.
*Pulls out the Kino x Silica ship from dry dock and into the water.*
Ship them, you know you want to.
Actually no, the actual energy levels haven't been discussed before, but the Windstone Crisis has. If it is a worldwide extinction event, you'd think that the Elves would care a bit more since they'll also feel the effects if what you're saying is true. Unless the Elves don't know, or know but see that it won't be a problem, or know and are just complacent.Quickshot0 said:This could very easily turn out to be an Extinction Level Event. (ELE) And should at the least be an extreme world wide cataclysm.
(I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before once, albeit perhaps with out an actual number put to the energy release)
I tend to disagree. Argo is in self employment that mean she can do herself a holiday whenever she wants. Ofc when she don't work she don't earn money, but it doesn't mean she have to do her work 24h/day.al103 said:
I doubt the Elves even if they know, really comprehend the danger of the situation. They're at something like mid-19th century knowledge levels it seems. Back then if you brought something up like this, they wouldn't have really comprehended how far the destruction and danger could spread. People didn't really take the danger of big falling rocks all to seriously until they heard about the one that did in the Dinosaurs, before that even scientists didn't think they were quite 'that' dangerous. (As such even Earth only really internalised the real danger posed in the mid 20th century) As such they most likely see it as a problem for the humans only. The same is only more true for Vittorio, he doesn't even have close to the knowledge level to realise the full implications.LGear said:Actually no, the actual energy levels haven't been discussed before, but the Windstone Crisis has. If it is a worldwide extinction event, you'd think that the Elves would care a bit more since they'll also feel the effects if what you're saying is true. Unless the Elves don't know, or know but see that it won't be a problem, or know and are just complacent.
It'd also mean that anything Vittorio does is practically pointless: even if they reclaim the Holy Land, they'll all go extinct anyway.
1st, does windstones are magic? in sense like first born magical? It is even dispell able? It might be just as magical as for example Mithril is. And Void mage dispelling shit out of fea armor seems quite overpowerd.Xexilf said:Could it be fixed with what we saw of void dispel? I mean that seemed to take out all magic in quite the area... So can we dig a few shafts down, have a voidmage chant up a however-big-it-will-get dispel at the bottom of each?
Even if thats only a delaying tactic, this could be much easier than actually trying to pull out the windstones.
Even if we cant rig up a full void (all four etc.) ritual to fix it at a continental scale, if this has been building up over thousands of years than even small mesures might delay by decades.
Creatiing a continent spanning massive mining operation in afew years may be beyond the fae. Rigging up a way to dig a few temporary shafts down so you can cast a ritual at the bottom of each could be much easier.
Yeah, this is the explanation I've been running on ever since I first heard about the Windstone Catastrophe. Never mind the rocks falling, even. Imagine all the friction generated as they rise. Imagine what bodies that size will do to the air currents, about changing albedo as dust particulates clog the air, and cloaking the world in a haze out of the imagined nightmares of nuclear winter.Quickshot0 said:I doubt the Elves even if they know, really comprehend the danger of the situation. They're at something like mid-19th century knowledge levels it seems. Back then if you brought something up like this, they wouldn't have really comprehended how far the destruction and danger could spread. People didn't really take the danger of big falling rocks all to seriously until they heard about the one that did in the Dinosaurs, before that even scientists didn't think they were quite 'that' dangerous. (As such even Earth only really internalised the real danger posed in the mid 20th century) As such they most likely see it as a problem for the humans only. The same is only more true for Vittorio, he doesn't even have close to the knowledge level to realise the full implications.
Basically only a knowledgeable Faerie would immediately realise just how cataclysmically dangerous this event could really be.
Probably that but it would be funny if the genocide spell actually causes all the elves to be sent to our worldTriggerhappy said:I'm curious as to how the genocide spell is supposed to work. It is just huge explosion? (unlikely) Or does it cause every member of the targeted race to keel over dead/turn into pillars of ash etc?
Funny but unlikely, the genocide spell was used at least once in brimirs time against some other race that threatend humanity and the elves.Sinsystems said:Probably that but it would be funny if the genocide spell actually causes all the elves to be sent to our world
Your logic is flawed, regardless of if the magic comes at birth or not, it may still stop you from successfully using elemental magic. To start excluding that possibility, we would need to find a case of some one before they gained void magic, but still not being able to cast magic successfully. None of the debate up till now seems to come close to bringing such evidence though.Onel said:3. We may have to agree to disagree on this one. We both believe that void magic and elemental magic do not stack, but while I believe that void magic seeks out those who have low potential ability in elemental magic, you believe that the void prevents elemental magic from forming in the first place. It all comes down to whether or not void magic is inherited at birth or later.
Sure, it kind of depends on the exact way Windstones work, though I had been given the impression they just used up all their power and then just stopped. Thus why my estimate was worked out as given. If they came down more gently that would be a considerable boon and certainly help reduce the impact substantially. Maybe Flere or so would know more about this?Perhaps, but the matter is actually a little more complicated. The pieces only come down when their load of windstone is no longer sufficient to hold them up, which is likely to be more gradual. Granted, falling even as slow as a feather would still be disastrous when dealting with a mountain, but the energy released at impact would be lower. That is why, in canon, it seems to be believed that just moving over to the land mass next door will be sufficient to survive the event. Also, for reasons as yet unrevealed in canon, it seems that the region of Halkegenia is the only known section of the world (in canon) that will have a windstone crisis.
True so very trueXexilf said:Funny but unlikely, the genocide spell was used at least once in brimirs time against some other race that threatend humanity and the elves.
Something like that showing up on earth in force, even thousands of years ago, would most likely have left traces, if not taken over this otherwise magicless world.
1) Personally, I think your looking at it the wrong way. Certain people are born with Void magic, but after their death, it transfers to the most suitable host available, overwriting/replacing their existing magic. Think of Void magic as an organ, and Josette receiving the Void as her receiving a transplant from Joseph.Onel said:1. I've generally viewed the matter as the second situation: the void chose people after they were born. Otherwise, how can one explain the situation of Joseph's niece, who was not a void mage until after his death. Or do you believe that there were five void mages at one time (ie: Joseph and Josette both being void mages, with Josette being untrained). That is the main stumbling block I have with accepting 'void mage since birth / conception', as there can never be more than four void mages at once (trained and untrained). In all honesty, at one time I was in the camp of 'void chooses a person at their birth / conception' - until the translations revealed that in at least one instance [Josette] this was apparently not the case. That she - in her mid teens - suddenly became a void mage, means that either there were more than four void mages at once or that she was chosen by the void over a decade after birth.
2. From what I recall of v10 the gate was becoming more active because void spells were being used again. And regarding never 'four at one time', again I have viewed that statement as four known (or active) void mages at one time. As an example, if Tiffania had not been discovered, then there would only have been three known void mages at the present time. This would not have meant that Tiffania was not a void mage, but rather that no one (even herself) would have been aware that there was a fourth (albeit untrained / inactive) void mage alive. But I'll double check the volume; its been a while since I read it.
3. We may have to agree to disagree on this one. We both believe that void magic and elemental magic do not stack, but while I believe that void magic seeks out those who have low potential ability in elemental magic, you believe that the void prevents elemental magic from forming in the first place. It all comes down to whether or not void magic is inherited at birth or later.
4. Okay, I can concede on this point. While I recalled that his mother was aware of the ring reacting to him, I had forgotten that others were aware of that fact prior to her leaving Romalia. I had thought that her leaving Romalia was to prevent others from learning that fact.
A very quick and rough calculation made from stated sizes and the map says that Halkegenia is far smaller. About 1.4 million square kilometres, so about the size of Peru.Academic Guardian said:Pretty much this. If we assume that Halk is the size of Europe then not only will the absolutely massive displacement of soil and earth cause worldwide global quakes the subsequent change in the overall climate of the world itself is under threat. The I think amount soil and dust that will be theoretically displaced by moving a continent upward far surpasses that of the Siberian Flats eruption during the Permian-Triassic period in which caused a total of 90% of all the worlds marine species and 76% of all terrestrial species died if we factor in rise, and the subsequent volcanic activity of the now thinner and very stressed soil that was left behind that will be sure to follow.
If McDongcopter thinks that the Windstone crisis is bad NOW, wait till the rock heads (geologists) among the Fae start telling what will REALLY happen if it proceeds. There is no safe haven aside from building orbital elevators or floating cities (Aincrad and Albion) and even then it will be iffy
Then of course everything starts falling...yeah ELE right there
This gives me the amusing image of Louise pulling a Rince Wind with her void affinity. "Get out!"Gore17 said:3) Yep. Personally, I like the idea that the Void's hosts are naturally extremely powerful/talented, and if they hadn't inherited the Void, they would all be Square mages.
Or he could try to use the genocide spell across dimensions, and then use a Void Portal or the Gate to come to a now vacant Earth.Academic Guardian said:Pretty much this. If we assume that Halk is the size of Europe then not only will the absolutely massive displacement of soil and earth cause worldwide global quakes the subsequent change in the overall climate of the world itself is under threat. The I think amount soil and dust that will be theoretically displaced by moving a continent upward far surpasses that of the Siberian Flats eruption during the Permian-Triassic period in which caused a total of 90% of all the worlds marine species and 76% of all terrestrial species died if we factor in rise, and the subsequent volcanic activity of the now thinner and very stressed soil that was left behind that will be sure to follow.
If McDongcopter thinks that the Windstone crisis is bad NOW, wait till the rock heads (geologists) among the Fae start telling what will REALLY happen if it proceeds. There is no safe haven aside from building orbital elevators or floating cities (Aincrad and Albion) and even then it will be iffy
Then of course everything starts falling...yeah ELE right there