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I have no logical reason to do so, and yet I felt bad for a fascist. That's good writing for you.
Well, he is pretty pitiable, an overgrown child desperately trying to recapture a bizarre form of "greatness" that never actually existed.

I thought that'd make more sense than just writing him as a generic bigoted villain. To me, Retroculture as a concept seems fundamentally immature and emotionally stunted, so it would make sense that its face was also deeply immature and emotionally childish.

All revolutions regardless of merit may have lead to burying innocent bodies at times, but he was certainly guilty.
It's an absolute hash of nonsense practically designed to handicap a society and (more critically from his perspective) its warfighting capacity. You could make a serious argument that it's a controlled opposition psyop and he's the only one who doesn't realize it!
Oh, absolutely. Honestly, I think it makes a certain amount of sense that it comes from a political aide, rather than a soldier or a farmer. The farmer likes having electric milkers, the soldier likes her close air support, but a political aide has all the luxuries of existing in a sort of dreamland.

Ironically for a book that makes a big show of preferring action to words, the Northern Confederation is a society that can only exist in the fevered mind of a man who works exclusively in an office.

I tried to write Harry as being divorced from reality in that way.
 
Update 5: Tankie Ennui
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"Author's" Notes: This is not some kind of dig at Deng and Xi. I genuinely love that story. It's just, well, when those characters are put in a more realistic world, they come off differently. Except for Guillotine[whoever], he's just doing his thing.


The Morning Leader
The Death of Cyberpunk


In 1984, acclaimed author William Gibson wrote Neuromancer, a novel taking place in a grimy urban sprawl. It was about high tech and low life, an era of incredible technology and even more prominent oppression. This began the cyberpunk movement in American literature. By 2020, the cyberpunk movement had become passe. This was not due to a lack of relevance, it had simply predicted life in that time too well. An era of corporate domination, right-wing authoritarianism, media misinformation, and information technology run amok, cyberpunk was life and life was cyberpunk. Far from the robotic limbs and virtual hyperrealities predicted, an internet of chaos, debauchery, fear, and cruelty sprung up. Regardless, it was dominated by Netrunners of a sort, such as EMPRESS and Maia Arson Crimew. Artificial intelligence did not quite have true sapience, but it did nearly make art obsolete in the capitalist world. Corporations turned people into products, and governments turned dissenters into prison slaves. The ethos of cyberpunk had come to life in almost perfect clarity, and many in 2020 feared ecological catastrophe or an eternity of the capitalist jackboot. Of course, we know now that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, but perhaps the bleakest period in American history was 2016-2024 under the Trump and Biden presidencies.

TankNet: The Forum for Revolutionary Anti-Revisionist Leftists
Post-Revolution Adaptation Thread

HundredFlowers said:
...So, how's everyone doing?

[MOD]OrderofLenin said:
Honestly, I'm pretty depressed.

HundredFlowers said:

[MOD]OrderofLenin said:
I guess I was just working at the library, and I just had to ask myself a question: "Is this it?"

[MOD]OrderofLenin said:
Look, Ruby. I spent twenty years doing Marxism-Leninism, since college, and none of it was worth anything. The revolution came and it was all basically worthless. We have a socialist America, I should be happy, right?

GuillotineUltraleftists said:
The social fascist DSA must be resisted by any means necessary!

HundredFlowers said:
I mean, I'm still trying to make my voice heard, you know? I attend council meetings.

[MOD]OrderofLenin said:
What was even the point? The world revolution's starting, and everything after 1917 was totally irrelevant to it. I just feel like an idiot.

GuillotineUltraleftists said:
Don't worry, when all the revisionists are dead, true Marxism-Leninism will rise up! Just like in Hungary!

BigSister1984 said:
...My boyfriend's dead.

HundredFlowers said:

BigSister1984 said:
He called himself a "Prussian Socialist".

HundredFlowers said:

BigSister1984 said:
Remember how crazy this site used to be? Some insane thing would happen in the news and we'd all go nuts over it. GuillotineUltraleftists would go on about how 9/11 was an inside job, OrderofLenin would say it was fine as long as the US wasn't doing it, and HundredFlowers would get into arguments with everyone. Honestly, I miss TranshumAnarchy. She was a lunatic, but...

HundredFlowers said:
I wonder what she's doing now. Hopefully she's still alive.

BigSister1984 said:
I still miss Zach. It pisses me off that he died a racist.

HundredFlowers said:
Better that than him living as a fascist.

BigSister1984 said:
He could have gotten better.

HundredFlowers said:

[MOD]OrderofLenin said:
This place used to be fun. What happened?

HoxhasDisciple said:
The revolution came, and it wasn't the revolution we imagined?

BigSister1984 said:

HoxhasDisciple said:

BigSister1984 said:
I didn't do enough. I should have deprogrammed him better. It was /pol/, Twitter, Iron Guard Forums. That's why he lost it. I failed him, and they beat him to death.

HundredFlowers said:
Portia, come on. You did everything you could.

GuillotineUltraleftists said:
Marxism is a lie, there is only Juche!

BigSister1984 said:
Come on, dude, shut up.

TranshumAnarchy said:
Can you guys stop moping? I've been trying not to think about the fact that capitalism, libertarianism, agorism and all that are dead. Just distract yourself. Come on. Go lose yourself in kink and drugs. Have fun. Chill.

HundredFlowers said:
Great life advice, Transistor. I miss when you ranted about wanting arm blades and cyber-eyes.

TranshumAnarchy said:
Didn't you read the article? Cyberpunk's dead.
 
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I hope this digression hasn't been too grim. Things are going to get lighter soon. We sort of have a mix of tones here.

Oh, and as always, I welcome comments, they're always appreciated. I certainly appreciate all the great ones I've gotten so far, you're all the best.

Beep boop. :p
 
I do really like how human all of these characters feel, they feel pretty real even if they're somewhat caricatures.
 
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I like the look at a broader internet ecosystem, it helps the main thrust of the TL stand out by creating contrast
Thanks! The main impetus for this was that I thought about my previous message board TL (a comically over the top parody of internet leftism circa 2019), and thought about what those absurd caricatures would look like as more muted, realistic characters.

I'm definitely glad it fits.
 
Oh, thank you! Any characters you're especially enjoying in general?
HundredFlowers is fun, pretty militant but not as openly obnoxious as Guillotine. OrderofLenin building their whole personality around opposition to the US's current world order and then winning and trying to understand what to do next is fun as well.
 
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It's trying to kickstart the world revolution, which is going reasonably well even if it's far from ideal. Said world revolution especially is notable in Canada and to a lesser degree in Mexico. The collapse of society that led to this has led to some things getting shaken up. The *American policy is very much trying to avoid the isolation that lead to the degradation of the USSR.

The new entity is actually unnamed, and I'm struggling to think of a name for it.

I encourage readers to suggest ideas. Worst case, if nobody suggests anything that I feel like fits (which should be unlikely), I'll sit on it. I would love to see what y'all come up with, though!

I want it to be a reader name that makes it in the story.
 
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It's trying to kickstart the world revolution, which is going reasonably well even if it's far from ideal. Said world revolution especially is notable in Canada and to a lesser degree in Mexico. The collapse of society that led to this has led to some things getting shaken up. The *American policy is very much trying to avoid the isolation that lead to the degradation of the USSR.

The new entity is actually unnamed, and I'm struggling to think of a name for it.

I encourage readers to suggest ideas. Worst case, if nobody suggests anything that I feel like fits (which should be unlikely), I'll sit on it. I would love to see what y'all come up with, though!

I want it to be a reader name that makes it in the story.
How about the Union of Free Councils? Or maybe the North American Federal Democratic Socialist Republic?
 
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Turtle Island is a common name for a decolonized North America but it isn't a very pithy one, given the percentage of Spanish speakers it would also be a relatively simple way to signal that they'll be an accepted part of the new order of things.

I hope this digression hasn't been too grim. Things are going to get lighter soon. We sort of have a mix of tones here.
I recall a discussion digression over in Reds! about how given the political situation class-play (or whatever you'd call it) would be the main secret shame power imbalance kink and given this TL's intersection of kinks fetishes and weird internet politics I wouldn't be surprised if something like that would be one way for the more reactionary mind to find a fun way in this brave new world of freedom, equality and reasonably-priced love since I'll admit I'm curious what any unreformed bourgeois/rightists who survived the tumult are up to. I'd imagine there's also a thriving subculture of authoritarian-themed political-play enthusiasts of one stripe or another (even if they have to constantly insist they're larping for perfectly legitimate sex reasons not fifth columnists) though I'd expect something like raceplay to be even more deeply taboo than it is now. Then again when has that ever stopped anybody 😂
 
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Due to my schedule, I'm thinking I'll choose a name around 2:45 PM EST, so fair warning to get your name suggestions in before that if you want to do so. Loving the suggestions I've gotten already.
 
Name Choice for Revolutionary America [By Reader Submission]
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How about the Union of Free Councils? Or maybe the North American Federal Democratic Socialist Republic?

The Tortugan Anarchy would be funny. More seriously the Plurinational Nondominium of Tortuga would work.

Both are very good answers, so I'll try and take ideas from both.

I think I'll go with the Worldwide Council Republic of Socialists.

It's the "Worldwide Republic" or "WR" to American socialists who genuinely seek to make it a global project, the "Republic of Socialists" or "RS" to foreign powers sympathetic to it, the "Council Republic" or "CR" to those neutral to it, the "Socialist Republic of America" or "SRA" to the Chinese communists who want to delegitimize it as the world's socialist leader while looking polite, the "Soviet Republic of America" (SRA, again, for a fig-leaf of respectability) or "USSA" to the usual hard-right-wing weirdos, and the "American insurrectionists" to those such as the Russian Federation who refuse to acknowledge the victory of the revolution.

From Parzival, I took the words "Republic", "Council" and "Socialist", and from Born in the USSA I took the deliberate attempt to eschew connections with the former USA. The name is long and unwieldy because it was decided by democratic committee and everyone wanted to get their part of it.

While I like Turtle Island/Tortuga, I felt that the use of those terms would be unlikely to be used in this world's revolution. This is a revolution dominated by a broad proletarian working class who got into socialism when the world fell apart. Much of the decolonization discourse would be foreign to many of the people who helped to found the Worldwide Republic. As we see in part with the TankNet section, while intellectual socialists and activists were certainly involved, the kind of usual leftist discourse you see outside of a revolutionary context just wasn't always as applicable or relevant. The Worldwide Republic is far from class reductionist, but one can certainly interpret "everyone says North America instead of Turtle Island, so we should say North America" to be a potential failing or indicative of some latent biases on the part of the socialists who created the Worldwide Republic.

However, the nation is not "North America". This is an active rejection of nationalism. It is merely a location in which the socialists are currently residing, and eventually (so they hope) the socialists will reside in a republic consisting of the entire world. It's the Republic of Socialists, not a nation-state but a federation of like-minded people, so I think that gets what Born in the USSA was going for with a rejection of American nationalism.
 
Both are very good answers, so I'll try and take ideas from both.

I think I'll go with the Worldwide Council Republic of Socialists.

It's the "Worldwide Republic" or "WR" to American socialists who genuinely seek to make it a global project, the "Republic of Socialists" or "RS" to foreign powers sympathetic to it, the "Council Republic" or "CR" to those neutral to it, the "Socialist Republic of America" or "SRA" to the Chinese communists who want to delegitimize it as the world's socialist leader while looking polite, the "Soviet Republic of America" (SRA, again, for a fig-leaf of respectability) or "USSA" to the usual hard-right-wing weirdos, and the "American insurrectionists" to those such as the Russian Federation who refuse to acknowledge the victory of the revolution.

From Parzival, I took the words "Republic", "Council" and "Socialist", and from Born in the USSA I took the deliberate attempt to eschew connections with the former USA. The name is long and unwieldy because it was decided by democratic committee and everyone wanted to get their part of it.

While I like Turtle Island/Tortuga, I felt that the use of those terms would be unlikely to be used in this world's revolution. This is a revolution dominated by a broad proletarian working class who got into socialism when the world fell apart. Much of the decolonization discourse would be foreign to many of the people who helped to found the Worldwide Republic. As we see in part with the TankNet section, while intellectual socialists and activists were certainly involved, the kind of usual leftist discourse you see outside of a revolutionary context just wasn't always as applicable or relevant. The Worldwide Republic is far from class reductionist, but one can certainly interpret "everyone says North America instead of Turtle Island, so we should say North America" to be a potential failing or indicative of some latent biases on the part of the socialists who created the Worldwide Republic.

However, the nation is not "North America". This is an active rejection of nationalism. It is merely a location in which the socialists are currently residing, and eventually (so they hope) the socialists will reside in a republic consisting of the entire world. It's the Republic of Socialists, not a nation-state but a federation of like-minded people, so I think that gets what Born in the USSA was going for with a rejection of American nationalism.
You know, the funny thing is that I was also kinda going for a rejection of nationalism with my answers, since in my experience American socialists tend to be actively anti-nationalist, (or at least anti-American nationalism).
 
Oh I see how it is, it's one of those countries. I'm a bitch ass moderate, so I just prefer to keep & repurpose old labels.
 
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Basically, they're trying to year zero this shit in regards to pre revolution culture & symbolism.
It's more that they want to foundationally be a world revolutionary government. They're not murdering American History professors or anything.
 
Update 6: It Has To Get Worse Before It Gets Better
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It was the height of the Age of Cyberpunk and the calendars said 2016. A seven-year-old Kendra Oswald wandered around her father's penthouse apartment. She passed by a couch where Dane Oswald was staring at one of his mistresses. It was the blonde. "Daddy?" she asked, her Hello Kitty glasses framing her face.

"Sure, pumpkin, what's up?" Dane took some time out of his busy face-appreciation hour to turn his head to face her. His salt-and-pepper hair and swimmer's body made his many extramarital adventures more than understandable. At least, he liked to think so.

"Where'd you put my fancy red pen?" she asked.

"Isn't it in your pencil case?" he asked.

"It went missing," Kendra said.

Dane and Mistress #2 exchanged flirtatious glances. Unbeknownst to the young girl, he'd written some very explicit things on some very specific parts of her body two days ago. It was one of those games that men in Malibu did. Dane stifled a chuckle. "Oh, right. It must be in my bedroom." Dane took great care not to say "Your mother and I's bedroom" around the mistresses. He found it bothered them.

"Thanks, Daddy!" Kendra said, as Mistress #2 brought up Trump and Dane mentioned some shocking thing the racist slob said on the campaign trail. She made her way to her parents' bedroom, its cloud-like grey comforter resembling Heaven's streets. Dane Oswald had assured an anxious and politically aware Kendra a year ago that the streets were not in fact guarded by United States Marines despite what she may have heard from her cousin in JROTC. Above the bed Kendra saw an authentic Norman Rockwell painting. It was titled Golden Rule, and they lived by it. Kendra knew by heart that it had come from a grateful Nicholas Cage for his time in the role of Yuri Orlov in the film Lord of War, which Dane Oswald boasted was "His favorite role in his favorite movie by his favorite director". It had won Dane Oswald the Oscar for Best Director of 2005 over Eastwood.

She crawled onto the bed and searched the sheets. After fifteen minutes and nearly giving up, the dogged daughter found the red ink pen. She spotted the painting of individuals of various cultures, with the text in the center in gold. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

With the confidence and lack of impulse control that could only come from a seven-year-old, Kendra crossed some letters out and wrote a new maxim: Do unto others as if they were Nic Cage. She walked out of the apartment and returned to the living room. "Daddy, I fixed your painting," she said. She could barely hold back laughter.

"What? Which painting?" he asked. His eyes darted around.

"The one in the bedroom," she snickered.

He leapt off the couch and ran into the bedroom. Mistress #2 followed. Kendra heard screaming. "What the fuck did you do?" His hands balled up, and Kendra immediately imagined him decking her across the face.

He didn't.

"You have no idea how big you've screwed up. No wine or beer for the next year, no laptop for anything but schoolwork for the next six months, and no playdates." His breathing was as if he wore a gas mask. "Stupid little goddamned motherfucking brat. We're talking to Mom!" He turned to Mistress #2. "Dawn, call Liza."

"Not Mom!" Kendra whined.

"Got it," Dawn said, drawing her phone from her handbag and calling Liza Oswald.

"What do you want?" Liza yelled in Dawn's ear, with you cheating slut implicitly addended to the statement.

"Um, Mr. Oswald needs you to scold Kendra," Dawn said. She trembled.

"Oh, of course! God forbid I ever get affection out of that piece of shit, but as soon as Kendra needs to be scolded he calls me. Glad I know what I'm for," she snarled.

Dawn fearfully handed it to Dane, who turned on speakerphone.

"Kendra, what'd you do?" Liza asked.

"I wrote on Daddy's Norman Rockwell," she said. She knew it was a Norman Rockwell. She didn't know why Dane cared so much, but she knew.

Liza, currently wasting away in a hipster bar, brought her cosmo to her lips. "You know what? I told her to do it. I was sick of you bragging about your goddamn painting, so I had her deface it."

"You slut, that was worth a quarter of her college fund!" he screamed. Dawn scurried away.

The lesson had been taught, and Kendra left the room.






When Kendra was thirteen, she'd heard that Dane Oswald had been accused of drug possession. She wore her finest black dress, and she stood with her mother outside of the courtroom. "Mom, I'm scared," Kendra said.

The place was a monolith of wood. "You don't need to be scared," Liza said. "This is gonna turn out OK. There's nothing any of us need to worry about." Liza held Kendra's arm tightly.

"What if Dad goes to jail?" Kendra asked.

"He won't. Do you wanna know why?" she said. Her face was iron and porcelain.

"I dunno," she said.

"It's because you're going to tell them the truth, that your father would never abuse drugs. He's not that kind of man. He's a good, sober person who's dedicated to his work. He barely even drinks."

Kendra gave it some thought. "I can't lie, Mom!" she hissed. The very idea was inferno.

"Do you want your father to come home or not?"






It was Kendra's freshman year of college, and the world was falling apart. The old flat-screen in the corner of the sports bar went on about how rebel zones in SoCal were engaging in live fire with LAPD and California National Guard troops. It was CNN, which meant that it was hideously right-wing and the stories were full of more holes than a cheese grater.

Kendra wore her sluttiest top and purple eyeshadow with glitter. She made her way to the bar counter.

"Card," a furry-armed bartender said.

"Oh, I get carded all the time," Kendra said, drawing her student ID. She'd used sandpaper, a very strong marker, and White-Out to change the "18" to a "25". It was a crude job, but she gave him a smile and made her motions smooth.

"Yeah, I don't doubt it," he said. "What do you want?"

"Gimme a Jagerbomb. Like my dad used to make," she joked.

"Cool dad," he said.






Film school wasn't as easy as they made it sound. As she finished an art film from 1968 that Kendra struggled to force into any kind of logical structure, she reached into a drawer of her desk. Her laptop's OLED screen made the film look as good as it could, even if Kendra still had little interest in "art flicks". She drew from the drawer a bottle of Xanax.

It was easy to get Xanax. You found the lowest-rated doctor you could find on WebMD, you told them you had severe anxiety, and they prescribed it for you because if they didn't they'd be broke. So she downed a pill with a bottle of allegedly electrolyte-filled water. One pill became two, two became four, and as she began to drift into what seemed to be the black void to which all must return, she had visions of her mother and father. Her world was ending.

She saw her mother at her funeral: "Our daughter Kendra tragically suffered from a heart defect and had a horrific response to her medication."

She saw her father, older, at a dinner party: "Oh, Kendra? She's going on a gap year in France. You know how film students are. She keeps to herself."

She saw her mother talking to an eventual Mistress #5: "Oh, Kendra, you must be thinking of that girl we fostered. We have no idea what's going on with her. She's probably done great things."

Kendra faded away.

When she woke up, it was in a hospital bed, and she saw nobody around her but the nurses.






Ruby Singh and Kendra Oswald could not look more different. The former wore a red armband and tank top. She was short, with a shaved head and a soldier's expression. Kendra, meanwhile, wore a pre-revolutionary designer cocktail dress. "Designer" didn't mean anything anymore, but she'd kept much of her clothes. Kendra had a cosmo between painted nails, Ruby sipped a beer. "I didn't take you to be into drones, HundredFlowers. Or, should I say, AssMuncher9000," Kendra said.

"Nice detective work," Ruby said.

"I hate how bars are now," Kendra complained. "They expect you to do the dishes and sometimes you have to mix your own drinks, it's bullshit."

Ruby laughed. "Wait a minute," she said. "Oh my god, someone totally yelled at me in that dress when they got sushi in 2029. That was you, wasn't it?"

"Oh god, yeah," Kendra said, burying her face in her hands. "I'm, um, sorry for calling you a lazy idiot," Kendra said.

"Apology accepted," Ruby said, playfully bumping Kendra's arm with her elbow. "Well, to answer your implicit question, bars are for people to hang out and drink, not so you can get waited on hand and foot by someone who has to put up with all of your crap," she said.

"This is what Puyi felt like, isn't it?" Kendra said. "Like, I read about his life. He was this Chinese emperor who spent his entire life being taken care of by servants. He didn't even know how to tie his shoes. Then he oversaw a bunch of war crimes. After that, he was obsolete and Mao sent him to a brainwashing camp, right?"

"Brainwashing camp," Ruby scoffed.

"Look, I get that those don't really exist in America, but in China—"

"First, it's the 'Worldwide Council Republic of Socialists', and second the re-education camps were both necessary and humane."

It was Kendra's turn to playfully bump Ruby's arm. Kendra downed her drink and got up to mix another one behind the counter. "Tankie."

"Shitlib."

"Come on, you're totally into me, right?" Kendra said as she downed another cosmo in one gulp.

"Fine, I have a thing for movie bimbos."

"Bitch, I know who Puyi was, I am not a bimbo," Kendra said. "I am an artist."

"Then can you make movies that aren't just reviving capitalist products with added homosexuality?" Ruby asked.

"No, then I'd be my dad," she joked. "Seriously, I'm trying to get one made after Captain America," she said.

"What was your dad like?" Ruby asked.

"Great first date question," Kendra said.

"This is a first date?" Ruby asked, an eyebrow raising just a bit.

"I was hoping it was."

"Same here," Ruby said, wrapping a strong arm around the stick-thin directorial princess's waist.
 
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