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God of War (PS4): Seriously.

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Lord Hater said:
So what do you guys think? I really don' want to kill good ole mommy Valk but it seems the game is heading in that direction. But it seems the devs will make us do it. Despite how important she may be to the Norse ecosystem like how the Greek Gods were to the Greek Kingdoms.

Kraytos in the beginning said to Atreus to close your heart of to people's suffering. The hunting scene.
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Honestly? I think that if there's any god or goddess that we won't be killing it'll be Freya. I feel like an excellent way to illustrate the way Kratos has changed over the years would be for Freya to come at him in full fury, for him to thrash her soundly, and then for him to walk away without killing her. (That sort of already happened with Baldur, sure, but Atreus did have to hold Kratos back at the last minute.) It may not happen exactly that way, and it may not even happen in a way even remotely similar to that. But I honestly doubt that Freya will wind up dying at Kratos' hands unless she outright forces him to hold the blade that kills her.

Unless she goes after Atreus. But if that winds up being the case, I believe she'll rightly be portrayed as having gone irrevocably mad with grief, and the act itself will feel like a tragic and unnecessary occurrence, much like Baldur's death did.
 
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Cici said:
Honestly? I think that if there's any god or goddess that we won't be killing it'll be Freya. I feel like an excellent way to illustrate the way Kratos has changed over the years would be for Freya to come at him in full fury, for him to thrash her soundly, and then for him to walk away without killing her. (That sort of already happened with Baldur, sure, but Atreus did have to hold Kratos back at the last minute.) It may not happen exactly that way, and it may not even happen in a way even remotely similar to that. But I honestly doubt that Freya will wind up dying at Kratos' hands unless she outright forces him to hold the blade that kills her.

Unless she goes after Atreus. But if that winds up being the case, I believe she'll rightly be portrayed as having gone irrevocably mad with grief, and the act itself will feel like a tragic and unnecessary occurrence, much like Baldur's death did.
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Okay so two things. Faye the Mother of Atrues is a Giantess or Giant w.e. COry let out a bit much in an interview that basically pointed that it was a signal to the other Jotun to return. Meaning a War of Vengeance may be upon us. An who to rally to than the woman who left beind a son? Apparently she helped them fight there way to freedom but stayed behind as a sort of spy. Not sure how she died though.

Also I found this from the Wiki.

Freya, her face stained with tears and livid from her son's needless death, swears horrible vengeance upon Kratos. She berates him and taunts him about his past that he has yet to reveal to his son. This prompts Kratos to finally divulge his violent past to Atreus. She is last seen carrying Baldur's lifeless body offscreen as Kratos and Atreus leave to finish their journey.

After Kratos and Atreus return from Jotunheim, Mimir tells them that more time passed than they thought and in that time, Freya came to visit Mimir and asked where Odin kept Freya's Valkyrie wings. Mimir told her what little he knew of it. To which he says "The cycle of Vengeance is not so easily broken".
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I think there will be a war between the Jotun and the Aesir and Freya will get involved not because she cares for Odin or Asgard but because of what Kraytos did. Which is logical but so fucking sad. There was a gif of her,Kraytos, Atreus, and Balrog all jumping up together. So cute.

Now he also said that he see's the Jotun as very hippy like while the Aesir are very Hells Angel like. So it could be them trying to reclaim land or something.

Also when I mean Cory said this. I mean an interview from a you tube video I found. Here is that video:

Again I hope she dosen't die or gets killed by Kraytos. Moreoever, she's the only one that may NOT be killed but I doubt it. God of War is still about not giving a fuck and killing things. The entire time I felt like it was foreshadowing that Kraytos will do what a 'Man's Got to do'. And Gods suck and all that. Shit. I wish there was a way to get a community together to have Santa Monica see how much we don't want her to die.

EDIT: Also I forget what part he says that so just skip around. Sorry :(
 
any one feel like Kratos just doesn't step out of the wood his home is in

like he know about the general thing about the region he in but the rest, he clueless
 
I'm so sorry for going back to this but what are some of the ways that Freya be kept alive? With Ragnorak coming it may be possible that all of the old Norse gods die and the children Norse gods repopulate the earth.

But I'm not sure. An details on how they'll handle Ragnorak are iffy at best from what I can see
 
For the old God of War Trilogy were there any of the Olympians that were not killed by Kratos/Titans?

I think Aphrodite and Artemis were ones but I am not too sure. Artemis never appeared in any of the games from my recollection.
 
Lord Hater said:
So does Freya have a daughter? Or only Baldur?
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Freyja is generally not attested to having children in mythology. I actually don't know that Frigg has any children other Baldr in the myths, but as Reveen noted earlier it's hard to know.

Certainly in the game Baldr is listed as 'the only thing Odin gave her that she liked' so ...

GoodMonday said:
For the old God of War Trilogy were there any of the Olympians that were not killed by Kratos/Titans?

I think Aphrodite and Artemis were ones but I am not too sure. Artemis never appeared in any of the games from my recollection.
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At the end of GoWIII the Olympian pantheon is effectively over, though many deities are either not seen (such as, say, Apollo and Artemis) or not visibly killed. Aphrodite's fate isn't given. She may have been killed when Gaia's falling body wrecked Olympus, but it's unknown.
 
I think she survived and is necroing the Greek pantheon to migrate over to Rome.

EDIT: By the way, I forgot to mention this is headcanon. Sorry for not saying this more explicitly.

@GoodMonday @ChildishChimera
 
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The LD Man said:
So, beat the game. Huh.

Freya irritates me. Just, as a person. "My kid might die? Well shit, better torture him forever while also making it impossible for him to die. This can only benefit my child's physical and mental health in the long run." And then acting like it was Kratos's fault Baldur was dead. As if her kid hadn't run around trying to kill him and a small child the entire game. Legit case of "It's everyone's fault but mine" and the game kinda slides past just how shitty a mother Freya is.

Another reason she irritates me is that the only Apple I don't have is apparently in her Garden. Which I can no longer get into. There goes a completionist run I guess.
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actually you can get into her garden. There is a well in her cave that you can climb up
 
So at what point can spoilers be talked about more openly? Just curious. Like a year?
 
I'd say a month. So a little over a week from today. Unless anyone else has objections otherwise?

So, the valkyries. They're a bitch and a half, even with endgame gear. Queen Sigurn gave me so much trouble even on Normal difficulty. Took two hours of repeated tries to finally take her down, and it was a close thing.
 
fuck sigrun. What a cheap piece of shit bossfight. Nothing like a boss that can literally juggle you in the hitstun of her attacks
 
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all fictions said:
This is an old concept from back in the first games, as I mentionned in one of my first comments:

Per the wiki:

From other things I can piece together across the net, Zeus would have died at the start of the third game, and thus all other mythologies would zoom in on Kratos and all be sucked into a vortex in one world. Then Kratos would become the Grim Reaper by killing across the different mythologies, and his Blades a Scythe, and would ultimately stop the people from believing in the gods, thereby ushering in the new age of religions. Then the Wise Men thing.

It's kinda all over the place.

But as others have said, other mythologies work way better for what GOW goes for, and more interesting to tackle than going for the "kill the Abrahamic God" cliché.
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Obligatory:

 
Huh, I always knew the original trilogy was all over the place but I could never really prove it. I guess that makes sense but it also stinks of ambition because had they put in a Norse and Egyptian guy out of nowhere the story would have made zero sense.
 
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So.

Here's a video:



Discuss?

Like, I agree with the idea that Kratos does have emotional pathos and depth, but that it wasn't especially well handled thanks to some of the team's... sketchier additions (really, guys, you're going to make a man whose trauma over failing his family is so deeply ingrained into him that he he literally wears it on his skin a serial womanizer) and the fact that there were effectively two plotlines for Kratos that never really aligned with each other all that well.
 
I saw the video and I kind of agree but not really.

Kratos was handled badly as far as narrative went with scripts and story ideas changing drastically. For example, God of war 2 had Athena sacrifice herself to save Zeus and warn Krayos not to kill his father. But Krayos was out for blood and he "snapped". At the beginning of 3, she turned evil and was acting like greed had come over her or w.e despite not doing any of that in 1 or 2. Aka Pandora box was a badly used plot device.

Moreover, Krayos in G.O.D 2 SAVES Sparta from Zeus when he immediately stops him in Rhodes (the beginning of the game using time travel) before moving on to destroy Sparta.

Then in 3 he gives no fucks and destroys it by killing the Gods. Why cause he snapped "even more" or w.e. so I'm summary, he's always angry and could blend right in with the Black Templars of 40k or Khorn Space Marines.

I really don't personally see a story just an angry man getting stronger and the plot just moving along to help serve gameplay. They did well imo of that was the goal.

Kratos started out as a character like that but he and other characters didn't really make him grow. Even that Pandora scene was kinda forced I feel.

Now if you want to just look at it as a low plot and low narrative trilogy then yes. You just follow along until the end. And whatever they say in the end goes.

TlDR: the original trilogy was like if a Dungeonaster in D&D changed his mind about plot, rules, and other things waaay to on the fly.

But it's still a fun back and slash.
 
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According to Super Best Friends, Kratos makes more sense if you played it according to release rather than chronologically. Because it's clear the writers had plans for an arc that never went anywhere considering it was split between two consoles and a handheld system.
 
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