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Ghosts of the Ancestors. (A Cultivation Riot Quest).

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[X] Plan: No More Surprises
-[X] doctor [rare]- the skill for treating wounds for enhanced individuals, limited without relevant techniques but still needed for a good doctor.
-[X] Herbalism- the skill for growing and tending for spiritual herbs.
-[X] Qi sense [advanced]- the skill for sensing Qi in the surroundings. Useful for both detecting enemies and finding treasure.
-[X] Blood spilling cycle- a secret technique of the Guang bordering the demonic, when blood is spilled by Guang Li the ancestors may gather it a small portion of it for later use, this technique is incredibly refined and dos not posses the many dangers and downside normally apparent in such techniques. It is also almost completely undetectable.
-[X] Seek knowledge from the collective. - 2 shards
--[X] Knowledge of advanced alchemy [21/250]. Unlock advanced Alchemy actions. +12 progress
--[X] Knowledge of the bloodline [88/250]. Unlock bloodline actions. +162 progress
-[X] Look to the stars for hidden knowledge of the future [174/500]. Reveal the event in the event track permanently. +326 progress

[X] Plan Blood, Blood, Gallons of the stuff! V2
 
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@uri out of curiosity, is this set in the Good Seed cosmology? The cultivation stages are something of the main indicator for me, but obviously it could be a variant based off of it.
 
Xantalos said:
@uri out of curiosity, is this set in the Good Seed cosmology? The cultivation stages are something of the main indicator for me, but obviously it could be a variant based off of it.
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Not really, I mean its pretty standard stuff. Qi condensation to foundation establishment to core formation to nascent soul is pretty much the default progression system for most Xianxia.
 
[X] Plan -ning ahead w/doctor
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[X] Plan Blood! Blood! Gallons of the stuff! V2
[X] Plan: Breaking the chains of heaven and preping for shen
 
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I very stubbornly don't want to vote for look to the stars (with a limited shard). But I want Qi Sense, Butchering, and Blood Spilling. It's smart to know, though, and two out of three is good for me.

[X] Guest99
The pill makes us much more valuable to others. Probably. At the very least, the knowledge if we lack the skill.
 
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Guest99 said:
Given the need for the Middle Dantian to refine Shen to refine our Bloodline, I swapped Spirit Butcher for the Open Dantian Pill. Guang Li can learn the Spirit Butcher skill on his own, albeit not nearly as effectively as with Ancestor help, and the Pill is necessary to get the DC down to a reasonable level. Aside from that, more Blood Qi will let us use it as the basis for a lot more of our Cultivation, Making us stronger in the long run.
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I'm pretty sure that we have an action that lets us just reduce the DC of creating the second dantian. It's the kind of thing that would take some actions, but it's definitely doable even without the pill. It's just more work.
 
Sirrocco said:
I'm pretty sure that we have an action that lets us just reduce the DC of creating the second dantian. It's the kind of thing that would take some actions, but it's definitely doable even without the pill. It's just more work.
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The pill does have the benefit of being usable for other people, but I'd agree it's probably not worth getting right now.
 
[X]Plan: Breaking the chains of heaven and preping for shen
[X] Plan: No More Surprises
[X] Plan -ning ahead w/ doctor (6 shards)
 
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[X] Plan -ning ahead (5 shards)
[X] Plan -ning ahead w/ doctor (6 shards)

Buy rare stuff with shards, and the rest we can get via other methods. Ignore the temptation to short-term profit off rare currencies. :D
 
KNakamura said:
[X] Plan -ning ahead (5 shards)
[X] Plan -ning ahead w/ doctor (6 shards)

Buy rare stuff with shards, and the rest we can get via other methods. Ignore the temptation to short-term profit off rare currencies. :D
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See, that's a funny thing to say with that vote, because "Plan -ning ahead" and its variant are the ones that are spending two shards on, literally, just adding progress to things. Like, that's the definition of "spend rare currencies for short-tern profit". Other than that and the recipes (which are technically possible to get elsewhere, if highly unlikely) everything we can buy with shards gives us something of value that we cannot get in any other way.
 
Sirrocco said:
I'm pretty sure that we have an action that lets us just reduce the DC of creating the second dantian. It's the kind of thing that would take some actions, but it's definitely doable even without the pill. It's just more work.
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And it uses a skill (breakthrough) if done by Li, so we can also boost that until we like the chance.
 
KNakamura said:
I do not agree. I think that analysis is dead-wrong.
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It's... objectively accurate?

1 - Plan -ning ahead and Plan -ning ahead w/ doctor both spend two shards on buying progress. They do. That progress is something that could instead be produced by ghosts rolling dice. This is directly equivalent to spending small amounts of a rare currency to get seemingly large amounts of a common currency. I'm not saying that it's a fundamentally diseased choice or something, but it clearly is what it is.

2 - Most other plans are not doing this thing. If you wish to avoid doing this thing, you have many options available to you.

3 - The next tier is the recipes. They don't come with any special magical knowledge other than the recipe itself. Thus it is at least technically possible (though very unlikely) that we could acquire those recipes in play by some means other than spending a shard.

4 - pretty much everything else that can be bought with shards is *only* available from buying with shards. Unlocking a skill with shards doesn't jsut gain the skill, it lets us train the boy int eh skill with ghost power and then it unlocks other options related to the skill for useful things that the ghosts can do. You know, like how Guang Li has a refined sword now, in spite of the fact that he hasn't done any refining himself. Stuff like that.

Where do you think I am incorrect on this?
 
KNakamura said:
You think QC10/11 is progress that can be bought? *secret unknown qi cultivation levels*???

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No. I think that there are a lot of things on that list that can't be bought. I think that there are many plans that are full of things that can't be bought.

Then I look at the plans you voted for.

Karnax626 said:
[X] Plan -ning ahead (5 shards)
-[X] the tenth Qi condensation stage- 1 shard
-[X] The eleventh Qi condensation stage [Requires the tenth]- 1 shard
-[X] Twelve cuts to topple the heavens, the first cut to open the way- 1 shard
-[X] Seek knowledge from the collective. - 2 shards
--[X] Knowledge of advanced alchemy [21/250]. Unlock advanced Alchemy actions. +12 progress
--[X] Knowledge of the bloodline [88/250]. Unlock bloodline actions. +162 progress
-[X] Look to the stars for hidden knowledge of the future [174/500]. Reveal the event in the event track permanently. +326 progress

[X] Plan -ning ahead w/ doctor (6 shards)
-[X] the tenth Qi condensation stage- 1 shard
-[X] The eleventh Qi condensation stage [Requires the tenth]- 1 shard
-[X] Twelve cuts to topple the heavens, the first cut to open the way- 1 shard
-[X] Seek knowledge from the collective. - 2 shards
--[X] Knowledge of advanced alchemy [21/250]. Unlock advanced Alchemy actions. +12 progress
--[X] Knowledge of the bloodline [88/250]. Unlock bloodline actions. +162 progress
-[X] Look to the stars for hidden knowledge of the future [174/500]. Reveal the event in the event track permanently. +326 progress
-[X] doctor [rare]- 1 shard
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They are notable in that each of them has spend two shards on things that very much can be bought. Those two and No More Surprises are the only three plans out of the entire list that have done this thing.
 
Breaking the chains of heaven and preping for shen does purchase QC10/QC11, but at the time no one had voted for it outside of the moratorium. I've edited my vote to include it after seeing Aria the Mage vote for it.
 
KNakamura said:
Fair. Let me rephrase: no other plan includes those two. :V
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It's true. My plan (Poison Valley Crew) doesn't, because I expect us to have a chance at more shards before we get that far. Like, right now, Guang Li is QC 3... and cultivation tends to slow down as you go. I'm just pretty sure we're going to have a chance to clean up a few ancestors between now and then... and meanwhile those shards can be doing other useful things.
Aria the Mage said:
[X]Plan: Breaking the chains of heaven and preping for shen

I don't particularly want the pill, but I like the rest of the plan.
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You could adjust the plan to not include the pill. It looks like there's at least some appetite for such a plan.
 
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