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A parasitic plant that smells like rotting flesh, now ain't that fitting for a crazed cult leader.
I actually went through several flowers for Kamizono before settling on Rafflesia. Originally I wanted something with more religious significance like the Madonna Lily or Star of Bethlehem, although the Rafflesia does have some religious significance as it shared the name 'Padma' with the Lotus.

If the size of the flower is in some way proportional to how threatening a Hanazakari is, hard to think of a worse enemy than Rafflesia in Full Bloom.

This got me to look up what the world's smallest flower is, apparently it's the Wolffia Globosa
 
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[X] She outright said she knew about Hibiki siding with the Frost Fair. Tactless as it was, it was gonna come up sooner or later, certainly from Koyomi if not her.

Drama!
 
Yeesh. This is going to be dysfunctional.
I am also very glad nobody picked the mangaka. You were right not to listen to me.
[X] She instead saw to introducing Sfira to Palmira, help take that load off Koyomi's shoulders.
 
[X] She asked Hibiki about her career, she'd been a fan after all. Nice easy topic, well maybe not so for someone long after the peak of their fame.
I am also very glad nobody picked the mangaka. You were right not to listen to me.
Given Koyomi's own history on the matter, I wouldn't be suprised if we've got some kind of evil counterpart incoming. Just, you know, more colorful than usual given that the protagonist magical girl already rocks the black look.
 
Since I haven't gotten around to Palmira's and Hibiki's powers yet, I was curious if anyone had any speculation on them? Their flowers being the Alstroemeria or Peruvian Lily and the Hellebore respectively. Not that what their powers are is that spoiler-y, I'm just waiting for a more appropriate spot to bring them up.

Just, you know, more colorful than usual given that the protagonist magical girl already rocks the black look.

Well, her own flower doubles as a colour
 
"Anyway, Kamizono also says all Hanazakari used ta be perfect and pure but now we've all fallen and been defiled, and the Resurrection's a no-go until the source of this defilement is dealt with, those sources being anyone she dubs a Bad Seed as you've figured. And a Bad Seed can only be dealt with two ways," Palmira said as she made a V sign with her fingers, "They convert to the Earthly Purified, or they die. Either/or, no in-between."
Erm. So is the idea that the 'Bad Seeds' won't be resurrected, or that the Resurrection will somehow 'purify' them? Definite Aum Shinrikyo vibes in the first case.


Hearing that turned Miyako still as a statue. "No, no, I misheard, t-that's all," she said, her whole body starting to quiver. "You just said that there were Hanazakari who fought for the Frost Fair, that, that has to be a lie." And YamahiPro, that's who Izumi Hibiki was with…

"They're telling the truth," Koyomi said to her, "I can confirm, I was there. As for why any Hanazakari would side with the Frost Fair, well with those for whom corporations called the shots, it's simple: Frost Fair paid them more. Had riches from across the universe, so they said."
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Literally the idea from Immortal Hulk where the world's largest oil conglomerate is led by literal man-eating minotaur Dario Agger, who casually murders his own assistants (and even board members) for backtalk or whenever he 'needs a stress ball', actively promotes fossil fuels because his company is well-situated to supply weaponry and supersoldiers for a hypothetical post-climate collapse age of warlordism, once tried to sell out the planet to the denizens of Alfheim... and suffers zero punishment for any of it.

That is a level of betrayal which should have involved public tribunals and executions. That is a level of betrayal which absolutely could have been conducted in a way that did more to reinforce the institutions than harm them - and that means the decision to instead protect the betrayers at all costs was something done simply because the institutions considered those traitors to be more deserving of mercy and dignity than their victims.

No wonder the Dandelionhearts were wiped out, if there were Hanazakari and major corporations working alongside the Frostfarers to exterminate them all.


"You already know the Kai. Like any cult EP go after the rich and insecure, more than a few celebrities are already members. Especially in entertainment, they're jonesing for that PR. The only other Hanazakari I know who's with them is a dame by the name of Daimon Emi, Orange in Full Bloom," Palmira said.

Already shaken by that Idol treason bombshell, hearing that name nearly shattered Miyako. "N-no! I know her, she can't be…" she spoke.

"Well yeah, that's kinda the point of recruiting famous people," Palmira said not so tactfully.

"Daimon-sama's been a mangaka for years. Most people know her for doing character designs in anime and adaptations, but I used to read her own works a whole bunch though," Miyako said, then muttered out, "She can't- can't be with a cult…"
Ah, given the deeply sus vibes I've gotten from Palmira, I take it the idea was that all of the potential allies were written in such a way that they could be easily folded into the cult if we didn't pick them.

Regarding said cult, their leader's greatest sin in my eyes is letting the cult tail out into this kind of penny-ante bullshit, rather than a short, focused buildup of resources in order to bring down the wrath of God, in all its fury, upon those fucking CEO turncoats.




[X] She outright said she knew about Hibiki siding with the Frost Fair. Tactless as it was, it was gonna come up sooner or later, certainly from Koyomi if not her.


Even if, as I suspect, Hibiki was put under intense pressure by the corporations to betray humanity, she has no right to try and hide her involvement, much less help hide the corporations' sins in the process.

Did she kill her Dandelionheart with her own hands, or did the Frost Fair do that for her?
 
[X] She outright said she knew about Hibiki siding with the Frost Fair. Tactless as it was, it was gonna come up sooner or later, certainly from Koyomi if not her.
I want a direct approach now.
 
Regarding said cult, their leader's greatest sin in my eyes is letting the cult tail out into this kind of penny-ante bullshit, rather than a short, focused buildup of resources in order to bring down the wrath of God, in all its fury, upon those fucking CEO turncoats.
Yeah, I don't get the sense that the cult is interested in analyzing the structural causes of the evil they oppose. The CEOs didn't fight the Frost Fair, why should they be punished for the sins of their employees?

Plus, you know...some of their donors are probably friends and/or business partners with those guys.
 
[X] She outright said she knew about Hibiki siding with the Frost Fair. Tactless as it was, it was gonna come up sooner or later, certainly from Koyomi if not her.

I want more info on this bit of history, it sounds juicy. Lobbying to legally commit atrocities is one thing, treason against humanity is another- getting your assets seized by the government seems bad for shareholder value. What was the Frost Fair's final vision for humanity? A world of emotionless worker drones laboring in service of the next conquest? Maybe they promised powerful collaborators could rule in their name, and helped them to turn key subordinates into pawns.
 
[X] She outright said she knew about Hibiki siding with the Frost Fair. Tactless as it was, it was gonna come up sooner or later, certainly from Koyomi if not her.
 
Erm. So is the idea that the 'Bad Seeds' won't be resurrected, or that the Resurrection will somehow 'purify' them? Definite Aum Shinrikyo vibes in the first case.

The idea was Bad Seeds will be resurrected if they convert, but not if they don't.

Ah, given the deeply sus vibes I've gotten from Palmira,

Would be interested to hear more on this, like does she know a little too much or charge too much?

Maybe they promised powerful collaborators could rule in their name, and helped them to turn key subordinates into pawns.

Yeah, makes the most sense that the CEOs they'd be 'exceptions' to the Frost Fair for working with them (when really they wouldn't have been).

Also, to quote you from way back:

We've seen what the government has to offer, let's see the megacorp variant.

Hey, now you have, or at least one big part of it
 
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  • [X] She outright said she knew about Hibiki siding with the Frost Fair. Tactless as it was, it was gonna come up sooner or later, certainly from Koyomi if not her.
    [X] She instead saw to introducing Sfira to Palmira, help take that load off Koyomi's shoulders.
    [X] She asked Hibiki about her career, she'd been a fan after all. Nice easy topic, well maybe not so for someone long after the peak of their fame.
 
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[X] She outright said she knew about Hibiki siding with the Frost Fair. Tactless as it was, it was gonna come up sooner or later, certainly from Koyomi if not her.


"Izumi-sama, I really do want to trust you. To help us save Mirova-san, and to help you save Daimon-sama! I mean, you were in like all the anime I watched back when. It's just…" Miyako tried to start positively, but couldn't bear the weight of what she knew anymore, "I can't."

"Why not?" Hibiki simply said.
Reiji and Sfira looked confused, while Koyomi and Palmira tensed up.

"Look, I still don't forgive her for what she did," Koyomi whispered to Miyako, "but like it or not, we can't afford to bring that up, we need anyone we can get right now."

"Because I know you fought for the Frost Fair!" Miyako blurted out at Hibiki anyway, right past Koyomi. She then crouched while biting her lower lip and said, "I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I know you had no choice; I know your company would've put you up to it! It's just, it's just…"

"Ah, please forgive her, Izumi-sama," Reiji said, smiling yet side-eyeing Miyako. "Nozawa means well, but says the craziest things sometimes. Like she once tried to have me stage her fanfic-"

"What she said is true," Hibiki said, again with the same composure.

Everyone just stared at her, with Sfira shuffling a few steps away.
"How can ya just… say something like that?" Palmira asked.

"Was that take unsatisfactory?" Hibiki said, then looked at Koyomi, "As you are a writer, Kuramazov, perhaps you can write me a more fitting reaction? Something a traitor like me would say on being outed?"

"…Are you trying to mock me?" Koyomi asked and glared.

"That's my line? You write fast," Hibiki said, hardly answering the question.

Clenching her teeth, Koyomi then told her, "Since I now can't trust the sincerity of anything you say to me, I'll have you recite 'I will not abdicate any responsibility for my actions', but not at me. No, I want you to repeat that over and over in your own head. Got that?"

Hibiki nodded and as directed didn't speak.

A blushing Miyako said, "Ah look, I am really sorry I brought that up. I was, I was just worried if I didn't, someone else would say it. So, er," she hesitated to ask, "you're still here to find Daimon-sama of your own volition, right? Not just because someone told you to?"

"I was asked to find her, does that count as being told?" Hibiki asked her back.

Koyomi eyed Hibiki even closer, then turned to say to Palmira, "From the way she's been acting, I believe she may be due for a Heart Leech checkup."

"Wow, you've really been letting your Hanazakari senses go to waste, huh Senora Koyomi?" Palmira asked back and sighed, "Ain't no Leech in the dame, I'd be pinging something fierce if there was. At least, I think I'm sensing right, can't hurt to be sure," they then muttered in a more normal, less noir tone of voice.

"There's no Heart Leech in me, I'd need to be paid extra to method act with one," Hibiki said, leaving Koyomi to hope that was a joke. "I can prove it to you right now. The mask shows who I truly am. Blossom, Hellebore!" she said with a sudden burst of power in her voice.
The transformed Hibiki now sported an emerald green ballerina outfit with a gold leaf trim, her hair having turned silvery white and as expected a mask around her eyes.

"Yep, like I told ya, she's Leech-free," Palmira said, with Miyako not needing to be told that you couldn't transform with a Heart Leech infection.

"Though that just makes her attitude stranger," Koyomi had to say.

"Look, I'm sure she's been very busy with roles, plus you did spring her memories of her being drafted against humanity on her," Reiji then spoke for Hibiki, "She'd just be under a lot of pressure right now, that's all, no need to hoist all this further suspicion on her. Forcing her to transform was a little uncalled for."

"Actually, I haven't been getting that many roles lately," Hibiki said upon detransforming. "Age is at least gentler on us voice actors, though it still means I get cast mostly in villain roles nowadays."

"Heh, you sure that's just due to your age?" Koyomi muttered beneath her breath.

Miyako winced, she'd hoped Koyomi would at least be sympathetic over aging and typecasting, in the latter's case given what her old publisher had demanded she write. So she said instead to Hibiki, "Well hey, now if you help us battle this cult you'll get to play the hero again!"

For a second Hibiki smiled, but then said, "I'm afraid it's… not quite the same in real life. Harder to lose myself. But I suppose this could be my community service given, ahem, my past."

"Okay, with that settled- oh right, Sfira," Koyomi then realised. She reached over to drag the Pathragadan back in and said, "Right, think Palmira is the only one who doesn't know. Sfira here is a visiting Pathragadan of the Bamboo clan, shows they haven't forgotten us, who we found sightseeing at Sekigahara. Then Freesia attacked, took off with Mirova, and here we are."
She then glared at Hibiki, "And please do not tell me your reaction to them was 'Whatever they'd like it to be'." So Hibiki just said nothing.

"A Pathragadan, a real Pathragadan? They still care about us, or at least one of them does?" Palmira said as they gave a big smile and squealed. Only then did they realise how they came off and rushed to resume their gruffer tone, "Ahem, strange world, ain't it? Name's Palmira Sakata, kid. Guess you donning Senora Koyomi's duds is one of your photosynthesis mirages, huh?"

Sfira nodded, then dropped the illusion to show Palmira their true bamboo self. "<Greetings, I'm glad I could finally visit. Even if Earth is, as you say, a strange world. I'm gladder most humans I've met have been quite pleasant, well, mostly,>" they said. All the while they kept avoiding making eye contact with Hibiki.

"Yeah, just stick with me, kid. You've got gangsters, mad scientists, whole ton of people bit too eager to get their paws on an alien. But don't worry, I can spot those creeps a mile away," Palmira said, only to find Koyomi narrowing her eyes at them.

"Like we need someone else trying to claim custody over Sfira," Koyomi said, even if the other claimant was currently a doll.

"Was just trying ta be friendly," Palmira muttered.

"Er, okay. Now everything's fixed up, time to finally face this cult!" Miyako said, only for Koyomi to shoot her down.

"Time for us Hanazakari to face the cult, maybe with Sfira for backup. You two unanointed however, stay here out of this," Koyomi told Miyako and Reiji.

"What? B-but… I know, I know," Miyako sighed, "It's for my own protection. I just, y'know, really wanted to see Hanazakari do battle against evil once without being pushed out of it or taken away."

"Yeah, and the fights against Kazuya's Leech and Blue Lotus should more than remind you why you shouldn't be anywhere near the field of battle," Koyomi said.

"Hey, suits me fine. I'm more than happy to keep any daring rescue missions strictly to the stage," Reiji said but had to sigh, "yeah, like I ever got to play any princely roles. Though like I said, Izumi-sama's been under a lot of pressure, so you better keep an eye on her."

"Look kid, she's nearly twice yer age and a Shin Sekigahara vet. Think she's gonna do fine against some cult bozos," Palmira said, before they sighed at Koyomi, "Mouthy little twerp ain't he?" which got a smirk out of her. And a twitch out of Reiji.

The Hanazakari then headed off, with Hibiki at least waving goodbye to the unanointed and Sfira trying their hardest not to zoom past the three.

Once they'd left, Reiji looked at Miyako and asked, "It really is true then, that Izumi Hibiki fought on the Frost Fair's side? Why else would she say so herself, I guess? And to think just a while ago I would've gone 'Hah, of course a bunch of Hanazakari betrayed humanity'. But actually hearing it, it's… just horrible to even think about."

Miyako had no idea what to say at first, but managed, "Look, it would've been her company that forced to do such a thing, right? I mean, I know people change, but I still can't see Izumi-sama ever willingly siding with the Frost Fair. What-" she gulped "-Hanazakari would?"

They stood in silence for a while, till a familiar someone showed up.
"Oh, I know you, despite or because of your ridiculous get-up. Not mooching off my brother right now, huh? That's a start for you," Ryoichi turned up and scowled at Reiji.

"Huh, Ryoichi? What are you doing here?" Reiji said and stumbled back, before he raised his voice, "And hey, I'm the one who actually bothers looking after Kazuya!"

"Why you-" Ryoichi began, but then took a deep breath. "No, I can't let chance encounters and petty insults distract from my purpose here." Which of course meant he got distracted by Miyako. "You, you're still around? Wait, where's that older woman who were with? And Sakata better not have told you anything about me."

"Why, you have that little faith in the detective you hired?" Miyako found it in herself to stand up to him. "And Arisugawa-sama's just gone off to genuinely get something done about the cult." She then shut her mouth when it occurred to her that'd likely just egg Ryoichi on and risk his life.

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She dealt with Ryoichi by:
[ ] Occupying him with conversation, bringing up Kazuya should keep him talking.
[ ] Stalling by encouraging him to show off his wealth through purchases.
[ ] Telling him what Palmira had told her about the cult, hoping that'd satisfy his investigation.
[ ] Trusting Reiji could keep him occupied.
[ ] Escalating to a fight. A punch-up was a little much but would certainly keep him away from the cult.
[ ] Just letting him investigate the cult, since he should've known the risks.
[ ] Offering to investigate the cult with him. It'd defy Koyomi, but it'd be safer with three of them.
[] Fully conveying the danger to Ryoichi. [Miyako does not have enough Emotional Intelligence for this.]
[ ] Write-in
[ ] Write-in: Play nice. Ask what he wants to do about the cult, and compare notes. Keep an open mind to his concerns. (by Embler)
 
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[X] Occupying him with conversation, bringing up Kazuya should keep him talking.
[X] Telling him what Palmira had told her about the cult, hoping that'd satisfy his investigation.
 
[] Occupying him with conversation, bringing up Kazuya should keep him talking.
[] Telling him what Palmira had told her about the cult, hoping that'd satisfy his investigation.

edit: swapped to Embler's vote
[X] Write-in: Play nice. Ask what he wants to do about the cult, and compare notes. Keep an open mind to his concerns.
 
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"Though that just makes her attitude stranger," Koyomi had to say.

"Look, I'm sure she's been very busy with roles, plus you did spring her memories of her being drafted against humanity on her," Reiji then spoke for Hibiki, "She'd just be under a lot of pressure right now, that's all, no need to hoist all this further suspicion on her. Forcing her to transform was a little uncalled for."
Nope, seems pretty clear to me.

She dealt with the guilt by dissociating from the person she was, and now hides that behind so many masks that she's largely forgotten what it feels like to not be playing a role 24/7.

There is no Hibiki. There was, but she had her surgically removed.
 
This city, huh? Or are hanazakari all just unhinged? Koyomi the most well-adjusted we've met so far.

[X] Write-in: Play nice. Ask what he wants to do about the cult, and compare notes. Keep an open mind to his concerns.

This is super similar to the combination of votes above, but I guess I'd stress that he likely knows more than we do, and stalling him might be against our interest.
 
[ ] Stalling by encouraging him to show off his wealth through purchases.

Maybe even make him spend on a fancy dinner. Wink, wink *not a date* nudge, nudge. I jest, but there's a certain audacity to Miyako just seeing a pretty rich boy and trying to make him splurge on her. Which, I mean, she didn't have her fill on harem shenanigans in a while thanks to all the serious stuff going on and the fact that the implication he isn't properly looking after Kazuya got a raise out of Ryoji is one more point on the slowly mounting pile of him not being that bad an egg. But also how likely is that option to actually work?

Whelp, time for plan Reiji instead. He seems good at this kind of thing.

[X] Trusting Reiji could keep him occupied.

Meanwhile, I'm happy we picked up Hibiki. She looks interesting on her own and it just isn't the same unless Koyomi has somebody to bicker with.
 
[X] Occupying him with conversation, bringing up Kazuya should keep him talking.
[X] Telling him what Palmira had told her about the cult, hoping that'd satisfy his investigation.


My estimation of him has improved slightly, given he seems to actually give a fractional shit about Kazuya.


"Look kid, she's nearly twice yer age and a Shin Sekigahara vet. Think she's gonna do fine against some cult bozos," Palmira said, before they sighed at Koyomi, "Mouthy little twerp ain't he?" which got a smirk out of her. And a twitch out of Reiji.
I mean, how many fellow human beings has Koyomi killed recently? Because I'm betting that any non-Hanazakari cultists they find in the inner circle will be entirely too happy to act as human shields, if not outright kamikazes.

That's setting aside the probability of Hanazakari like the Slayer refusing to stop trying to kill people right up to the moment they themselves are killed.

And of course, we can't leave out the chance that this is their world's version of Aum Shinrikyo, chemical weapons and all. Has anybody prior had the misfortune to find out what Sarin gas does to a transformed Hanazakari, I wonder?
 
[X] Occupying him with conversation, bringing up Kazuya should keep him talking.
[X] Telling him what Palmira had told her about the cult, hoping that'd satisfy his investigation.
 
Meanwhile, I'm happy we picked up Hibiki. She looks interesting on her own and it just isn't the same unless Koyomi has somebody to bicker with.
Yea, how else would we know that Arisugawa being wasn't replaced by some shapeshifting alien:V

[X] Write-in: Play nice. Ask what he wants to do about the cult, and compare notes. Keep an open mind to his concerns.
 
And of course, we can't leave out the chance that this is their world's version of Aum Shinrikyo, chemical weapons and all. Has anybody prior had the misfortune to find out what Sarin gas does to a transformed Hanazakari, I wonder?

Bit of a tangent, but since Aum Shinrikyo formed in the 1980s before the point of divergence, Aum Shinrikyo themselves would've still been a thing here. Not gonna say that the Frost Fair helped cause the gas attacks, since I'm no fan of the 'aliens did this real-world thing' trope, but the FF sure would've benefitted from the emotional reaction the attacks caused in Japan and worldwide.

Since we've brought up Doctor Who, there's actually another DW villain who was one of the FF's influences, The Blue from the book The Left-Handed Hummingbird, a psychic monster who feeds off people's reactions to violence. This video looks at that book more in-depth
 
"Nozawa means well, but says the craziest things sometimes. Like she once tried to have me stage her fanfic-"
Miyako is never living that down.

"Was that take unsatisfactory?" Hibiki said, then looked at Koyomi, "As you are a writer, Kuramazov, perhaps you can write me a more fitting reaction? Something a traitor like me would say on being outed?"

"…Are you trying to mock me?" Koyomi asked and glared.

"That's my line? You write fast," Hibiki said, hardly answering the question.
I think she's successfully mocking you.

"Age is at least gentler on us voice actors, though it still means I get cast mostly in villain roles nowadays."

"Heh, you sure that's just due to your age?" Koyomi muttered beneath her breath.
Hibiki's better at mockery, too.

"Now everything's fixed up, time to finally face this cult!" Miyako said, only for Koyomi to shoot her down.
"Time for us Hanazakari to face the cult, maybe with Sfira with backup."
I love their dynamic so much.


This city, huh? Or are hanazakari all just unhinged? Koyomi the most well-adjusted we've met so far.
It's possible that fighting alien invaders in their adolescence had some side effects.


[ ] Stalling by encouraging him to show off his wealth through purchases.

[...]But also how likely is that option to actually work?
I'm pretty sure our previous choices mean we're locked out of the Ryoji route on this save. You really need a walkthrough for that dude.


[X] Write-in: Play nice. Ask what he wants to do about the cult, and compare notes. Keep an open mind to his concerns.
 
On the subject of an actress disassociating, coincidentally I've been studying Ingmar Bergman's Persona (no relation) in college this week about... exactly that. Well, among many, many other things.

To bring up Rafflesia again, I've noticed that flower comes up a fair bit in Japanese pop culture, e.g., not one but two Gen 1 Pokémon including a starter were based on it, Venusaur and Vileplume. Looks like it might go back to Captain Harlock though, as his original villains were plant aliens whose leader was based on the Rafflesia
 
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