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Fledgling Deity Quest

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Yeah, my understanding is that as long as Leto is not incarnated, Leto is semi-atemporal in that he basically only has a present, and no past or future. Future sight doesn't see Leto because there is no Leto in the future until it bemoes the present, and the Leto in the past is the same as the present Leto if someone tries to go back in time to hit him; Leto just gets his viewpoint temporarily relocated to the past moment in question at the full strength he has as of the most recent present.

Being noncorporeal also has other advantages and disadvantages; Leto can't really interact directly with the world beyond using Creation or Crafting or other Domains, but at the same time is functionally immune to most forms of attack, because there's no body or anything of substance to attack. Only metaphysical attacks can hurt the dicorporate Leto, and Leto could only theoretically hit back with metaphysical attacks himself. Incarnating an Avatar would allow Leto to interact directly with the world, but also means creating a physical 'weakpoint' that can be attacked to hurt Leto, and means having an actual presence in Time; opponents could go back to the moment of incarnation, and the Avatar would be at its weakest even if Leto had strengthened it in the future, and divination would be able to somewhat predict Leto by predicting the actions of the Avatar, even if it still couldn't see the results of Leto gaining in Faith and Domains.

At least that is my understanding from what we've heard so far, I could be wrong about some things.
 
To be precise from what i Know in the Info tab @ilbgar123 said Leto is immune to indirect Change in Timeline Unless He Make a Avatar and Go back in Time Himself to change it BUT Not Direct Change in Timeline he may Remember the Old timeline But not Entirely Immune to it Effect in fact Is Possible to go back in time and Kill him and yes will still have His Progress and Growth BUT Not with His Follower having many Domain does not help if You can not Defend youself

At least that from what i Understand
 
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Ish. Discorporate Leto is very difficult to attack, but not necessarily invulnerable. It would, however, take something like another deity, or Metallia, or another being capable of attacking on a level that transcends physicality to actually directly attack Leto. Pluto might be able to pull it off too, if sufficiently angered.

The greater vulnerability is Leto's dependence on followers for his existence. If someone takes out all our High Priests, Leto just might pop. Because as a discorporate entity, there's no physical existence to fall back on if the Faith dries up too much. Incarnating an Avatar might actually help with this vulnerability. Pros and Cons.

It probably is safest to refrain from manifesting an Avatar unless we actually need one for something. But we can't be completely sure.
 
And vessels make an effective compromise of "not as strong" and "not as vulnerable". Vessels are basically never going to be as effective in manifesting power or anchoring existence as an equally leveled Avatar, but they're also significantly more disposable.
 
Razzocnor said:
Ish. Discorporate Leto is very difficult to attack, but not necessarily invulnerable. It would, however, take something like another deity, or Metallia, or another being capable of attacking on a level that transcends physicality to actually directly attack Leto. Pluto might be able to pull it off too, if sufficiently angered.

The greater vulnerability is Leto's dependence on followers for his existence. If someone takes out all our High Priests, Leto just might pop. Because as a discorporate entity, there's no physical existence to fall back on if the Faith dries up too much. Incarnating an Avatar might actually help with this vulnerability. Pros and Cons.

It probably is safest to refrain from manifesting an Avatar unless we actually need one for something. But we can't be completely sure.
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Yea that why in One of my Long term plan Say to Get the Avatar Domain as PRECAUTION againt temporal entities i never we Must Use It NOW

The Froggy Ninja said:
And vessels make an effective compromise of "not as strong" and "not as vulnerable". Vessels are basically never going to be as effective in manifesting power or anchoring existence as an equally leveled Avatar, but they're also significantly more disposable.
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I dont think so it Say people can Attack Leto throutgh Vessel in the Vessel domain Introduction
 
The Commander said:
I dont think so it Say people can Attack Leto throutgh Vessel in the Vessel Tab
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Yeah but the Avatar is also a vector for attack and doesn't have the part that makes it harder to attack Leto as it grows. Basically, imagine that an Avatar is downloading Leto from the cloud into a local platform. Damaging the platform might lead to data corruption even if he evacuates back to the cloud. Comparably, a Vessel is a remote controlled drone. A bit more latency, but the only way to attack the controller is by hacking the connection, which can be reinforced or cut off with relatively low risk.
 
The Froggy Ninja said:
Yeah but the Avatar is also a vector for attack and doesn't have the part that makes it harder to attack Leto as it grows. Basically, imagine that an Avatar is downloading Leto from the cloud into a local platform. Damaging the platform might lead to data corruption even if he evacuates back to the cloud. Comparably, a Vessel is a remote controlled drone. A bit more latency, but the only way to attack the controller is by hacking the connection, which can be reinforced or cut off with relatively low risk.
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Yea you Rigth plus we Have 15 or more Turn as long we Hide Ourself from threat with hiding related Domain like deception and Hide we will be (moslty) Fine
 
Hey Guys what do you Guys think what kind of Mechanic will a Certain Domain will Give? like the Masquearder Domain? or what synergy will a Certain Combination of Domain will have? Like Humans With Knigth or Soldier with Rank?
Edit: iam Sorry butt is there any one who pay anttetion to This quest?
 
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Leto's Titles(Possible Future)(+50 Faith)
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    • EDIT2: Hey @ilbgar123 when will you count this Omake?

    Omake : Leto Title

    It Must be Noted that Our Benevolent God Leto Come With Many titles :
    The Great Lord,Guardian Of Mankind, the One True Lord,the Benevolent one,the enemies of Chaos,the Defiles of The Dark, the Machine Lord,the Machine God,uniter Of Humanity, Uniter of Gallaxy,The savior Of Mankind,the Savior Of Monsterkind, Savior Of the Senshi ,the Savior of All,The great Lord of Magic , True King of the star,the Emperor of Time,He Who protect,the Great Patron of Magical Girl, the Savior of Puella,The Guardian Of Senshi, the Maker Of Hero, Allies Of Cosmos ,the Grandmaster of Magic, the Anthema, the Great Trickters, the lord of Luck, ,He who Cure all , Lord of Charity , lord Of Deception,The God Slayer,the Lord of War, the Player of the Great Game,he who slay God,slayer Of the immortal, the lord of justice,the god Knight, He who defeat the Tyrant,the Lord of Purity, the Imperishable,The Master of the Mind,the Bringer of Hope, Bringer Of Despair,the Lord of Martial art,the Great Planner, King Of Planet, he Who reddem the Book of Darkness,Guardian of Nature, the great Guardian Of Balance,Bringer Of Miracle, the inevitable, our True Lord , Guardian Of the Dead , Cosmos Chosen, He who Exalt , Maker Of God ,Lord Of progress, Evilbane, Arthitech Of Destiny , Arcthitech of Miracle, the Lord of peace, Preperator of Greatness, emperor of the Future, The Graet Maker, Defender of the Universe, the Caring God, the Great Lord of AI,the Reddemer of the Incubators,he who just Can not Die, Creator of the Warmind , Nemesis of Evil,the will that Protect All,the master Of Warfare,Guider of Heroes, bringerof the Ultimate Truth, the Great Gods Kings,the Bringer of Posperity, the Bringer of Victory, the Breaker of the Tyrant Chain, The Lord of Wisdom ,he who Know all,he who arm his army with Weapon,the Uncorrupteble ,the lorld of Knowlegde, the Great Patron of the Senshi of Silence, The Begeter of Jupiter, Defier of Evil,the Emperor Of Time, the Great Holy one,the Master of QI,the World Shaker, The Inventor,He who have Many Title, the reddermer of the General, The Great Reddemer, Master of lies, he who think Ahead,the Savvy God,the Gamer God, Master of The Cyberrealm,Master Of spirit,the Maker of Champion, the Maker of Staff, Master Of Soul,he who ca not Be Tricked,Diviner of Truth, Guardian Of Peace,Keeper Of posperity ,Guardian Of the Gallaxy, He who Wield power with Wisdom,the Great Teacher,the grand Leader of Gods , Maker Of Army ,Bringer of Fotune, Bringer of Misfortune ,the Keeper of Knowlege,the Defender of the Universe, the Friend of Mortal, he Who walk among the Mortal, He who reveal Lies, He Who reveal Secret ,He who you should Not Mess with ,Pluto Berloved, the Matchmaker, The Shipper, and Many many more

    A/N: here a Quite Funny Omake i Make Out of Boredom and as you can see i Based of a Certain Warhammer Fantasy Character

    All Faith to Teachinng
    Edit : @ilbgar123 Ignored the Above I change it to 15 Faith to teaching while the rest to knowledge
     
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    • The Commander said:
    Omake : Leto Title

    It Must be Noted that Our Benevolen God Leto Come With Many titles:
    The Great Lord,Guardian Of Mankind, the One True Lord,the Benevolen,the enemies of Chaos,the Defiles of The Dark, the Machine Lord,the Machine God,uniter Of Humanity,Uniter of Gallaxy,The savior Of Mankind,the Savior Of Monsterkind, the Savior of All,The great Lord of Magic , True King of the star,the Emperor of Time,He Who protect,the Great Patron of Magical Girl, the Savior of Puella,The Guardian Of Senshi, the Maker Of Hero, Allies Of Cosmos ,the Grandmaster of Magic, the Anthema, the Great Trickters, the lord of Luck, ,He who Cure all , Lord of Charity , lord Of Deception,The God Slayer,the Lord of War, the Player of the Great Game,he who slay God,slayer Of the immortal, the lord of justice,the god Knight, He who defeat the Tyrant,the Lord of Purity, the Imperishable,The Master of the Mind,the Bringer of Hope, Bringer Of Despair,the Lord of Martial art,the Great Planner, King Of Planet, he Who reddemer of the Book of Darkness,Guardian of Nature, the great Guardian Of Balance and Many many more

    A/N: here a Omake i Make Out of Boredom and as you can see i make this Based of a Certain Warhammer Fantasy Character

    All Faith to Teaching
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    ...I remembered something about that from exalted as well...
     
    Ignoring Chaos (SM) and all of its manifestations; Chaos Gods (WH 40K) [Who they must be sleeping, but some of their followers/Daemons are active, and trying to wake them up, or in Slaanesh case create; the evil being that is similar to Leto; Walpurgis Nacht (Madoka), [I wonder if higher level in Hope, Despair, and Purity would give Leto a special action to interact with it; and other powerful supernatural groups. What things/groups do you think could be a danger to Leto's followers?

    Phineas & Ferb began to be emitted in 2007 (Damn, I feel old), I wonder how are they doing.

    I think Leto hasn't discovered The Mist (Riordan verse), that is great weakness for Leto, and her/his followers.
     
    Pretty much what would be a strategy against us/Leto. Depending on if said counterpart went into an Avatar or not would also effect things. Namely the whole opening up a potential avenue of attack (depending on exact Domain composition we're faced up against).

    So the big focus would be on dealing with opposing followers. Cut off the Faith. Mess with the miracles to make them doubt, have them lose their faith enough that they don't count for Faith, maybe even convert some. I'm not sure if there's actually a Domain that is 'counter-Faith', which would at least conceptually be make it harder for opposing factions to obtain Faith when in range, along with probably opening up stuff other Domains can help with. While also making it easier to shut down enemy attempts of the same. And by extension, things that would weaken enemy Followers when they're in our areas/around our Followers.

    'Course, there's also the lesser suppression of plots with grabbing Domains that we're facing, and Counter-Domains to such. Which would be helped by having knowledge of what said Domains are.
     
    The Froggy Ninja said:
    Apostasy for breaking followers away, Blasphemy, or maybe Atheurgy for counterspelling miracles.
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    Doubt, if anything would be the conceptual opposite of Faith, I think. But the nature of domains, and how they influence, well things under our influence (our empowered, our blessed, our symbols, our followers, our temples, etc, implies that while these domain might help, if, for example someone tried to do a ritual belonging to a different god in one of our temples, or in the presence of a bunch of followers, it probably wouldn't help much if they were, for example, ritually empowering weapons in one of their temples, and handing them out to their followers. Note that the Misfortune domain directly contradicts this intuition, but it still seems like something very risky for us. I could imagine any and all of these domains actually harming recruitment, if not directly cutting down on followers.

    On a related note, with regards to rituals. Next turn, after we start reviving girls directly this turn; would it be worthwhile to design rituals to restore grief seeds back to soul gems, and regenerate bodies? It would scale better than creating a marvel to create a bunch of artifacts. As more girls get turned back, we have more people capable and willing to perform the rituals, leading to an exponential growth, while a marvel creating artifacts leads to a quadratic growth. Even after they're all turned back, having any priest with a temple capable of such miracles would simplify logistics.
     
    saganatsu said:
    On a related note, with regards to rituals. Next turn, after we start reviving girls directly this turn; would it be worthwhile to design rituals to restore grief seeds back to soul gems, and regenerate bodies? It would scale better than creating a marvel to create a bunch of artifacts. As more girls get turned back, we have more people capable and willing to perform the rituals, leading to an exponential growth, while a marvel creating artifacts leads to a quadratic growth. Even after they're all turned back, having any priest with a temple capable of such miracles would simplify logistics.
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    Then we need more Theurgy,Ritual Replication(to allow it tobe Replicated) and One more level on Divinity Domain in order to actually Pull this off because without it i Think it will be Almost Impossible for Our Currentl follower to do it without consuming at lot of Time and energy
    EDIT: i also suggest Logistict Domain Too!
     
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