Fate/White Parmesan

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Spectral Waltz said:
I mean, just gonna point out, she explicitly stated that she was planning to fight us at the end of the grail war anyways. Even if we do promise we won't get in her way that's just 'until the end of the grail war'.
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There's a lot of people we've promised that to.

Let's go and make a bargain with Hobo Olga for encore. :V
 
Valmond said:
Only if she does not want direct access so she can change our code/settings.
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And if she does want direct access, we can refuse (or maybe make her promise to only remove the directive Hans added).
Spectral Waltz said:
I mean, just gonna point out, she explicitly stated that she was planning to fight us at the end of the grail war anyways. Even if we do promise we won't get in her way that's just 'until the end of the grail war'.
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You're not wrong, but it does delay Berserker's hypothetical rampage (not convinced that Hans was right about Berserker destroying the city if Brie reveals that she's not trying to kill Hans anymore). Hopefully time to kill Assassin and Archer, then ideally a three-way team up between Lancer, Rider, and Saber to defeat Berserker (plus Scathach).
 
[X] Laugh. Seriously? Who the fuck does this bitch thinks she is?
-[X] The Mission's just an elaborate suicide mission for a disposable unit so fuck that. I am so not about that life, thank you very much. The Traitor? I just found out Hans fucked with my head even more than everyone else already did, so fuck him too. So the question is not whether I betrayed you, I was never on your fucking side. Question is: Are you going to get in my way?
—[x] "Don't you get it? We're mass produced for a reason, we're supposed to all die, you included. Just because I was supposed to die sooner doesn't prevent the inevitable for the rest of us. We're supposed to be tools, and even if you're all high and mighty and running the show, you're going to be tossed away the second you're not up to par. Just like you're trying with me, right now."
 
[X] Laugh. Seriously? Who the fuck does this bitch thinks she is?
-[X] The Mission's just an elaborate suicide mission for a disposable unit so fuck that. I am so not about that life, thank you very much. The Traitor? I just found out Hans fucked with my head even more than everyone else already did, so fuck him too. So the question is not whether I betrayed you, I was never on your fucking side. Question is: Are you going to get in my way?
—[x] "Don't you get it? We're mass produced for a reason, we're supposed to all die, you included. Just because I was supposed to die sooner doesn't prevent the inevitable for the rest of us. We're supposed to be tools, and even if you're all high and mighty and running the show, you're going to be tossed away the second you're not up to par. Just like you're trying with me, right now."
 
[X] Laugh. Seriously? Who the fuck does this bitch thinks she is?
-[X] The Mission's just an elaborate suicide mission for a disposable unit so fuck that. I am so not about that life, thank you very much. The Traitor? I just found out Hans fucked with my head even more than everyone else already did, so fuck him too. So the question is not whether I betrayed you, I was never on your fucking side. Question is: Are you going to get in my way?
—[x] "Don't you get it? We're mass produced for a reason, we're supposed to all die, you included. Just because I was supposed to die sooner doesn't prevent the inevitable for the rest of us. We're supposed to be tools, and even if you're all high and mighty and running the show, you're going to be tossed away the second you're not up to par. Just like you're trying with me, right now."
 
Signupname said:
And what makes you think she would kept it, she's a potential enemy remember ?
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There isn't really a way to make her keep her promise. It would come down to how much, or perhaps how little, we trust her word. To be fair to her, after seeing that we worked with Hans for at least a bit, she could have attacked immediately. Instead she gave us a chance to explain.
 
I dunno, I actually Kinda like this, it's certainly way more my mood.

[X] Laugh. Seriously? Who the fuck does this bitch thinks she is?
-[X] The Mission's just an elaborate suicide mission for a disposable unit so fuck that. I am so not about that life, thank you very much. The Traitor? I just found out Hans fucked with my head even more than everyone else already did, so fuck him too. So the question is not whether I betrayed you, I was never on your fucking side. Question is: Are you going to get in my way?
—[x] "Don't you get it? We're mass produced for a reason, we're supposed to all die, you included. Just because I was supposed to die sooner doesn't prevent the inevitable for the rest of us. We're supposed to be tools, and even if you're all high and mighty and running the show, you're going to be tossed away the second you're not up to par. Just like you're trying with me, right now."
 
Impstar said:
There isn't really a way to make her keep her promise. It would come down to how much, or perhaps how little, we trust her word. To be fair to her, after seeing that we worked with Hans for at least a bit, she could have attacked immediately. Instead she gave us a chance to explain.
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Then why would we even gave her a chance to do so ? Honestly ? It's like we are deliberately trying to get ourselves brainwashed
 
Signupname said:
Then why would we even gave her a chance to do so ? Honestly ? It's like we are deliberately trying to get ourselves brainwashed
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Because saying we'll help does not equal let ourselves be brainwashed. If the "yes" vote wins, there will probably be another vote to let or not let her connect with us again. If we can get out of this without a fight, we should try. This is a bad position to fight in.
 
Impstar said:
Because saying we'll help does not equal let ourselves be brainwashed. If the "yes" vote wins, there will probably be another vote to let or not let her connect with us again. If we can get out of this without a fight, we should try. This is a bad position to fight in.
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So we kinda rely on the mercy of Rabbit ?
 
Signupname said:
So we kinda rely on the mercy of Rabbit ?
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Well if you want to think of it that way, then sure.

Look, no one is forcing you to vote "yes." You clearly strongly believe that we should just break our way out now, but none of your arguments are going to change my mind, so let's stop. This is going in circles. Feel free to try and convince others of your position, but I'm done with this conversation.
 
Pretty sure she won't destroy the city because that would definitely get the Mage's Association and the Church on the Family's ass's either because this could end up possibly exposing magecraft. Plues Ruler can (hopefully) stop the rampage with the her command seals if it dose happen as long as she's still alive. And from the looks of it Archers master won't take kindly to anyone ruining their business.
 
Eh. Fine.

[X] Laugh. Seriously? Who the fuck does this bitch thinks she is?
-[X] The Mission's just an elaborate suicide mission for a disposable unit so fuck that. I am so not about that life, thank you very much. The Traitor? I just found out Hans fucked with my head even more than everyone else already did, so fuck him too. So the question is not whether I betrayed you, I was never on your fucking side. Question is: Are you going to get in my way?
—[x] "Don't you get it? We're mass produced for a reason, we're supposed to all die, you included. Just because I was supposed to die sooner doesn't prevent the inevitable for the rest of us. We're supposed to be tools, and even if you're all high and mighty and running the show, you're going to be tossed away the second you're not up to par. Just like you're trying with me, right now."
 
One real concern
Two real concerns

Are
1) she won't let us finish, like she did the previous update
2) she doesn't care, because she isn't supposed to
Self-preservation is a byproduct of our personality ( that we've apparently developed by throwing cheese at Medb )
Probably not a part of the standard package, since granting all your robo-soldiers reasons to doubt you sounds really stupid even for Magi.
 
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