Is that the one where Shirou backs out of the War and loses his head for it?
No, it's the one where he agress to surrender to Caster in exchange for her sparing... iirc rin? and is turned into a wand (Nasu!speak for a type of magical implement, not neccesarily the HP tool).
I'm not entirely certain rin mercykills him, it's been a while, but yes to the rest and plausible to that bit.
If it was, I would be seriously worried, because a full blast excalibur took out Sefar. I didn't think that even full powered angra mainju could approach that level of strength, so if the shadow is that strong that's... really scary. If it's only the "full bore" artoria normally uses, that's better, but still worrying for future loops.... unless, of course, the shadow was strong enough at this point that even Excalibur (and a three-kilometer fall) couldn't bring it down.
Not that I'm saying that was the case here, of course.
Care to elaborate? Becuase the only information I can find about Safir is that they were a knight who joined Lancelot and nothing anout them in fate.
That's me typoing. It's sefar/sephyr, aka the velber, and it stomped the gpds (all of them, pretty much) before being defeated by the wielder of excalibur.
That was during the age of gods wasn't it? So the person who wielded Excalibur back then might have been stronger then Altria or the sword itself could have been more powerful or Altria just doesn't know how to use that blast.
To be specific, Excalibur was fully supported by the planet when it killed Sefar (Altera at full fuck force), meaning it held a lot more raw power than it would usually have, except maybe when it has all it seals released, but there isn't much on that on canon Excalibur in contrast to the Proto one. As for who wielded it, it was never stated.
A) We have no reason to suspect the age of the gods matters for this, especially since Sefar had just finished beating up all the gods
Here's the most information we get about the true power of excalibur / the fight with the velber, and basically everything we get outside of extella since going through that for cites is a pain:
It's not impossible that it's due to the planet supporting the weilder, rather than a mechanic similar to the seals of proto excalibur, but I can't seem to find anythign that actually states it and the implication is not very strong.Garden of Avalon 002: Light of the Planet said said:
Artoria's time was at the tail end of the AoG basically. Britain seemed to have been slow to catch up to the rest of the world, likely due to being isolated as an island.
That makes it sound like Excalibur was made to fight the Safir which opens up the possibility it was exploiting some weakness or it just had a conceptual advantage of some sort and everything I can find makes it seem like the Safir was before even Gilgamesh.
I...have no idea what you mean by this comment. Of course the god's power were dead or dying by Artoria's time. The British Islands were one of the last bastions where magic had significant potency.
While I wouldn't disagree with Artoria holding back on the collateral because Excalibur is that much of a big deal, It's extremely unlikely she can get even remotely near the power that was reached during the Sefar invasion, not unless a similar fuckhueg alien threat was present. That particular level of strength is strictly restricted for outside threats/planetary threats and the world itself needs to basically give the go ahead before such power can be used. Outside that, I'd like to say she could wipe out a large city or a small country.
Excalibur is the planet's anti alien fuck off counter measure. The reason it was able to one shot Sefar was because, the sword was essentially one huge beatstick with a beam. Sefar absorbs anything that is considered a "technique", anything deemed as skills, knowledge, technology, civilization, etc. and converts any attacks or things with such concepts into more power for herself. Because of that, the only reliable method of even scratching the Titan was bludgeoning her like a fucking caveman. Excalibur, due to being a sword whose beam is little more than a giant fuck you beam via raw mana was able to damage Sefar with minimal negative return. So of course with the planet fully supplying the sword at the time, overwhelmed the would be civilization killer.
There's nothing much about that, as of the moment it's no more than a off hand remark from Merlin and that it ended by the time humanity started becoming prominent..
That's a cover up, the real reason he joined with Altera was to keep a eye on Hakuno. Pretty sure Babylon wasn't even a thing when Sefar came by and wrecked shop.