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Faction of Hope (PMMM/Warcraft)

So, is my justification of Strahnbrad being a good choice to make for hold water for everyone? Anyone else wanna vote for the place we can fortify in depth and begin recruiting Girls in earnest?

I'd Really like to avoid the Fall of Dalaran. Now, sending an Incubator/Puella team there as diplomats seems like a thing that would be neat, but actually setting up there is incredibly unlike to go well for us.
 
Hmm, yeah. Changing vote.

[x] Convince them to go back to Strahnbrad and offer them your protection.

If this would be a better starting location, then I'm all for it.
 
Darik29 said:
So, is my justification of Strahnbrad being a good choice to make for hold water for everyone? Anyone else wanna vote for the place we can fortify in depth and begin recruiting Girls in earnest?

I'd Really like to avoid the Fall of Dalaran. Now, sending an Incubator/Puella team there as diplomats seems like a thing that would be neat, but actually setting up there is incredibly unlike to go well for us.
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There are plenty of IC justifications in my view. Yours works fine. Or you could use the excuse that Homura knows she can get good PR from Strahnbrad thanks to the family she saved which I mentioned earlier. Or we can assume that Homura would ask basic questions and decide that going to Dalaran all alone would be too risky due to unknown magics and such.

The more I think of it, the more sense Strahnbrad makes to me. Its a better HQ for us since its more "unclaimed" compared to Dalaran, we can get support more easily, its situated in a better location strategically (Presumably the family could tell Homura this) and IC it would seem the safer option, considering that if Homura dies right now, everything goes with her.

Dalaran can be visited later, once we have teams of MGs and incubators and plenty of hope points and hopefully also a reputation as a good person from defending Strahnbrad and the surrounding areas.

Also, I wonder if Homura truly qualifies as a lich under Warcraft rules? Correct me if I am wrong (very possible), but are the undead in Warcraft not literally undead. As in no life functions at all. Homura is a lich in the sense that her soul is not in her body yes, but she is not the traditional walking skeleton kind of lich. So long as her soulgem remains close to her body, her heart beats, she breathes air and she is generally physically alive.

I would assume that the fact that she is a totally different kind of lich from the "normal" liches, would atleast confuse the ability of paladins to detect that she is a lich.
 
Okay. So find a decent sized city, and build a tower in it. Then we can build a hivemind and start on some incubators while we defend the city. Once that is finished, we can start sending Incubators around to help people.
 
Peoples be switching votes to Strahnbrad now?

Dalarab has pretty cleanly been skewered as a choice, given its one of the biggest centers of resistance against the Undead right now, and Homura technically qualifies as a Lich.

Also, Antonidas, or any of the Archmages in fact, might very well decide to try and dissect us. The Archmages of Dalaran were known for there arrogance alongside there power, and that would be a.... Bad combination for us to face.
 
One possibility is that we go to Dalaran, and the next day it is a smoking ruin due to level 10 arch-wizard vs Homura fight.

At least with Strahnbrad we don't have to worry about that. Just rival undead.

Edit: We could ask about what's at Dalaran first, and upon hearing GREAT AND POWERFUL WIZARDS WITH WISDOM AND EXPERIENCE. And that kinda seems like enough to make Homura be cautious enough to avoid going there any time soon.
 
LightMage said:
One possibility is that we go to Dalaran, and the next day it is a smoking ruin due to level 10 arch-wizard vs Homura fight.

At least with Strahnbrad we don't have to worry about that. Just rival undead.
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On the bright side. If we level Dalaran. We might be able to torch the book of Medivh in the ensuing fight. Thus ensuring Archimonde can't be summoned ever.
 
Avalon said:
On the bright side. If we level Dalaran. We might be able to torch the book of Medivh in the ensuing fight. Thus ensuring Archimonde can't be summoned ever.
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On the bright side, if we meet Arthus we can just lawl own him. He's not level 10 yet, I think.
 
Avalon said:
Your response confuses me. I'm not advocating we go to Dalaran you know?
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Um. I was listing another way to mess with canon that would be more effective at causing most of our future knowledge to be useless.
I didn't mean to imply that you were advocating we go to Dalaran, and simply reused your sentence starter.
 
LightMage said:
Um. I was listing another way to mess with canon that would be more effective at causing most of our future knowledge to be useless.
I didn't mean to imply that you were advocating we go to Dalaran, and simply reused your sentence starter.
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Ah, ok.
 
[X]Strahnbrad.

Once there, we build a Tower of hope. We are then almost unbeatable, and it will take the real heavy hitters of the legion to harm us. The legion is very professional, and they are unlikely to rush in against a total unknown.
 
Omegastar said:
should we build a tower of hope?
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Tower of Hope and Puellas together is like a Terran's Wall Off complete with Tanks and Missile Turrets.

You are not breaking that defense without the end game heavy stuff and casualties.

/At least that's what I got from the tidbits so far.

Except it takes a Month (Or 1 Turn) to build according to the GM.
 
Which is why we Need to make Strahnbrad our stronghold. Set up a Tower there, begin making the population more Hopeful, set up a Hivemind to begin Recruiting, eventually get an Altar up, so we can summon Mami and Sayaka and Kyoko and Orik.... Well, maybe not her, if she's crazy.

And with an Altar up, we can apparently Ressurect any Puella that dies. So once its up our girls are Immortal for reals, yo.
 
Darik29 said:
And with an Altar up, we can apparently Ressurect any Puella that dies. So once its up our girls are Immortal for reals, yo.
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I was under the impression that the Alter only let Madoka return Puellas who were in Madohalla. Which means only the ones who went into a terminal despair spiral, not the ones who fall in battle.
 
HecateGW said:
Hmmm, though it sounds so easy...I get the feeling a curve ball or three might be thrown our way. :p
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By fortifying Strahnbrad, we make it an actual target instead of just a village Arthas bypassed because it held no real value to him.

Our fortifying Strahnbrad, and likely sending out parties of girls to rescue refugees and fend off any Undead that get too close could lead to any Number of enemies heading our way. The Black Rock Orcs might take us setting up as a challenge. A particularly cunning Lich might see our fortifying the village as signs of a potential threat, and move to deny with us personally.

Any number of problems could get dropped on us. Hell, Alterac isn't far from Strahnbrad. We're actually right next to Alterac, considering where we fell on the map. Eventually reclaimng Alterac and its environs could prove a godsend later on.


There's so many threats to Strahnbrad in the Warhammer universe, the fact it survived unmolested for Years after the Plague spread, only falling due to lack of Reinforcments at the hands of that one crazy human and his army of bandits, proves how tough, or unnoticed, it was.
 
HecateGW said:
Hmmm, though it sounds so easy...I get the feeling a curve ball or three might be thrown our way. :p
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We can catch it with our Infinite HammerSpace. Even the mighty Knuckleball trembles before HammerSpace!
Aranfan said:
I was under the impression that the Alter only let Madoka return Puellas who were in Madohalla. Which means only the ones who went into a terminal despair spiral, not the ones who fall in battle.
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I Believe it was any Puella who's soul gem was not shattered.
 
[X] Convince them to go back to to Strahnbrad and offer them your protection.
Obviously we want to build a tower of hope next, but after that- do we want incubators or PMs? We already have one of each, but hints were dropped that humans in this universe have a different enough soul that incubators would need to research before they can properly reformat and relocate it. I'm thinking the extra forces provided by additional PMs (as well as the hope they would be able to spread) would be worth more than the long-delayed advantages posed by the incubators.

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Aranfan said:
I was under the impression that the Alter only let Madoka return Puellas who were in Madohalla. Which means only the ones who went into a terminal despair spiral, not the ones who fall in battle.
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Terminal despair spiral is equivalent to out-of-energy, which is how most PMs eventually fall. Only those killed by mundanes or other PMs have their soul shattered.
 
Aranfan said:
I was under the impression that the Alter only let Madoka return Puellas who were in Madohalla. Which means only the ones who went into a terminal despair spiral, not the ones who fall in battle.
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Altar description says it lets us call on other fallen Puella. Likely, it acts as a Hero Unit summoner, letting us call forth Kyoko, Sayaka, and Mami. Possibly others.

And more than likely, it allows us to revive any fallen Puella as well.
 
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