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Daniel Estacado said:
I believe Dan's new channel is Playshapes(just look up Extra Credts Dark Souls and you should find the channel). I think he left do to stuff regarding the gravely voiced dude who does the Lies videos.
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I thought he officially said it wasn't and the stuff about James being a terrible human being coming out at roughly the same time was a coincidence?
 
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    • Oy, I didn't respond to the last one, hypocrite that I am, and I'm late posting the new one:


    It's interesting that, if this summary is accurate, this early work is both less optimistic than many post-apocalyptic works, but also in other ways more so?

    Like, in my experience, post-apocalyptic works tend to fall into a binary: civilization can be restored, or civilization cannot be restored. This chooses the latter, but finds it hopeful, and not in a luddite "who needs civilization" way.

    Which does not strike me as something you see very often?
     
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    • krinsbez said:
    Oy, I didn't respond to the last one, hypocrite that I am, and I'm late posting the new one:


    It's interesting that, if this summary is accurate, this early work is both less optimistic than many post-apocalyptic works, but also in other ways more so?

    Like, in my experience, post-apocalyptic works tend to fall into a binary: civilization can be restored, or civilization cannot be restored. This chooses the latter, but finds it hopeful, and not in a luddite "who needs civilization" way.

    Which does not strike me as something you see very often?
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    I think it's closer to saying that the civilization that will emerge from the post-apocalyptic scenario will be, due to it's origins, necessarily different from how it was before the apocalypse. Basically, civilization as we know can't be restored but another civilization can be born from the survivors. It's some sort of middle road between complete recover and complete extinction.
     
    krinsbez said:
    Unsurprisingly, they disagree with the more subtle of Fahrenheit 451's two themes, but I can't help but feel they spend too much time on that, to the detriment of the rest of their analysis?
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    I mean, the "burning books is bad" message is pretty well known, even for people who haven't read it, so I don't blame them for not wanting to spend too much time rehashing it and instead talking about an aspect that might actually be new to the audience.
     
    Huh. I saw a copy of this book sitting in someone's office a few years back, but I had no idea what it was about and from the title assumed it was some sort of historical.
     
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    • Late again, sorry.

    So, this is interesting to me for unusual reasons: my dad loves this book. He's been raving about how amazing it* is for decades.

    Somehow, despite there having been a copy in my local library for years (although there no longer is), I've never read it, though. Not sure why.

    *And another book by Brunner, The Sheep Look Up.
     
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    • They don't go into much detail. It's mostly about the author, and them advertising that their next subject will be the New Wave Sci-Fi movement. Which means that Michael Moorcock will hopefully get a video.
     
    Weird, it's not posted on their main page.

    Anyways, it feels like a bit of a cheat to title the episode after Bradbury when they barely talk about hi at all.
     
    krinsbez said:
    Finally got around to watching this.

    Feels a bit short shrift to me; it's what, five minutes long, and half of it devoted to one scene from one book.

    Just in time for the new one:



    Also too short.
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    Both of these I came away from feeling like hardly anything had actually been said about the writer or the work.
     
    New episode:



    That feels better.

    Also, I'm now caught up on the EC content that interests me, but it seems the EH thread has died, phooey.
     
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