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[Exalted, ?] Most High

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[X] Begin a Grand Heresy
[X] The King Stands Alone[Additional Limit Gain]
[X] The Knight of Jade [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
-[X] Focus on Administration
 
[X] Begin a Grand Heresy
[X] A Light Touch
-[X] Spend time with Moon
[X] The Knight of Jade [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
-[X] Focus on Administration

If we go for full Limit the moment we Limit Break we'll break again very soon. I know the story with the kid and her dog is very sad, but the Knight should be more than enough to improve administration.
 
Elero said:
[X] Begin a Grand Heresy
[X] A Light Touch
-[X] Spend time with Moon
[X] The Knight of Jade [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
-[X] Focus on Administration

If we go for full Limit the moment we Limit Break we'll break again very soon. I know the story with the kid and her dog is very sad, but the Knight should be more than enough to improve administration.
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Maybe not if making it could destroy Luseng's economy...
 
Elero said:
Was that ever confirmed? I thought our predictions mean we're incredibly rich.
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The closest we got was:
Rihaku said:
The Knight of Jade is incredibly expensive to do; it costs like 10 talents' worth of solid jade! In conjunction with the Throne, it would possibly be too much for your economy to handle right now. Though I suppose the bonuses it grants might be worth it...
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And we did get the Throne.
 
I think focus on adminstration is not good idea,We should focus more on combat,the only person that can improve creation is us now,and we still not become the strongest being in creation.

Lathe of Heaven need enough power to pull off.
 
skaro said:
I think focus on adminstration is not good idea,We should focus more on combat,the only person that can improve creation is us now,and we still not become the strongest being in creation.

Lathe of Heaven need enough power to pull off.
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Well, we don't actually know yet what the Lathe needs, except for high essence-level obviously. I'm betting on the Lore Charm -tree, as it has Wyld-Shaping Technique in it. And by setting the Knight as our co-administrator while also focusing on holding Luseng together this turn, we can in the future probably lessen the amount of time we have to spend on pure governance duties.
 
[X] Begin a Grand Heresy
[X] The King Stands Alone [Additional Limit Gain]
[X] The Knight of Jade [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
-[X] Focus on Administration
 
Vote tally:
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[X] Begin a Grand Heresy
No. of votes: 18
Emerald Oracle, SirLagginton, sithmor, Usernames, Savonarola, Thomasfoolery, WorldSlayer, Random Asian Person, Robotninja, meianmaru, jamie96969, Diller, Algalon, nairit, Elero, dragon, CrawlingChaos74, Wing101

[X] The King Stands Alone [Additional Limit Gain]
No. of votes: 17
sithmor, WorldSlayer, meianmaru, jamie96969, Diller, Algalon, nairit, dragon, CrawlingChaos74, TheOtherSandman, Usernames, Thomasfoolery, Dark Lord Bob, Robotninja, Da Boyz, Daniel14541, useofstrike32

[X] A Light Touch
No. of votes: 8
SirLagginton, Wing101, Vitaris, Savonarola, Random Asian Person, Orm Embar, Alectai, Elero
-[X] Spend time with Moon
No. of votes: 8
SirLagginton, Wing101, Vitaris, Savonarola, Random Asian Person, Orm Embar, Alectai, Elero

[X] Prepare for Severance
No. of votes: 3
TheOtherSandman, Dark Lord Bob, EnderofWorlds

[X] The Knight of Jade [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
No. of votes: 12
Thomasfoolery, WorldSlayer, meianmaru, jamie96969, Diller, Algalon, nairit, Elero, dragon, CrawlingChaos74, Daniel14541, useofstrike32
-[X] Focus on Administration
No. of votes: 11
WorldSlayer, meianmaru, jamie96969, Diller, Algalon, nairit, Elero, dragon, CrawlingChaos74, Daniel14541, useofstrike32
-[X] Focus on Combat
No. of votes: 1
Thomasfoolery

[X] A Dragon of the West [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
No. of votes: 3
SirLagginton, Orm Embar, Alectai

[X] Maiden of Adamant [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
No. of votes: 1
Anasurimbor
 
Its kind of fascinating watching this bandwagon... people see and option that reads to me as, 'Make Odysseus's grand over working himself and withdrawing from society in the name of efficiency' mistake and avoid all attempts not to go insane by actively avoiding social interaction. Its like no one remembers that there is a 'Game Over' condition from Odysseus replacing Ulysses and its being done because a little girl died and wrote a letter to the king.

So instead of solving the economic issues and social situation that caused the kid to die in the first place, the response is withdrawal from society and avoid the problem by channeling Odysseus in the least productive way possible. By which I mean declaring, 'Blood for the Blood God!' and trying to take down the Realm rather than shoring up Ulysses damaged economy and power base.

A distant king with interest only in efficiency will lead a death spiral of mistakes feeding on mistakes. 'The Kind Stands Alone' is schmuck bait.

[X] Begin a Grand Heresy
[X] A Light Touch
-[X] Spend time with Moon
[X] The Knight of Jade [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
-[X] Focus on Administration

Fix the issues that caused the problem Ulysses is freaking out about in the first place, then damage the Realm's indiscriminate blood sacrifice of Exalts in a way that doesn't prove them right. Pillage then burn. Its not that hard a decision.
 
Hmm. Someting to note about the Grand Heresy: It will have to be carefully applied so that the Infernals and Abyssals that are overwhelmingly not our allies won't be able to use it against us and the Realm, not to speak about the actual demons. Maybe something about the nature of the "good" stolen power of Solars and Lunars bleeding through and making them not completely soulless monsters. With others similiar beings, they could too be ones you can work with, but far more likely to be truly "evil".

How does that sound?
 
Necratoid said:
Its like no one remembers that there is a 'Game Over' condition from Odysseus replacing Ulysses and its being done because a little girl died and wrote a letter to the king.
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That's because there isn't. We didn't choose Totality.

So instead of solving the economic issues and social situation that caused the kid to die in the first place,
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Which is exactly what The King Stands Alone does.
Rihaku said:
It's throwing yourself into your work, basically. With all the preparation and determination that Ulyssian used to approach his duels with the Dragon-Blooded, now multiplied by the vast increase in his personal power and the puissance of the Sundial Throne.
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By which I mean declaring, 'Blood for the Blood God!' and trying to take down the Realm rather than shoring up Ulysses damaged economy and power base.
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There's one option that deals with the Realm and you are voting for it. There's also an option that deals with our Satrapy's wellbeing: The King Stands Alone, which you aren't voting for.
 
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[X] Begin a Grand Heresy
[X] A Light Touch
-[X] Spend time with Moon
[X] The Knight of Jade [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
-[X] Focus on Administration
 
meianmaru said:
Hmm. Someting to note about the Grand Heresy: It will have to be carefully applied so that the Infernals and Abyssals that are overwhelmingly not our allies won't be able to use it against us and the Realm, not to speak about the actual demons. Maybe something about the nature of the "good" stolen power of Solars and Lunars bleeding through and making them not completely soulless monsters. With others similiar beings, they could too be ones you can work with, but far more likely to be truly "evil".

How does that sound?
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"It is said that the Anathema is a demon, striking at the weakest and most insignificant mortals, possessing them forever more. This is not inaccurate, but nor is it completely the truth. A mortal vessel, properly prepared, educated, and in the height of their talent can attract the attention of the Anathema, and when it attempts to possess them, can seal it's foul will and bend it's power to a more righteous cause. That this is not more common knowledge is for good reason--they are clever and cunning creatures, and will not always take the bait--and even if it should, their foul magic can still prevail should the vessel's will falter in the critical moment. But it is not impossible, and in these desperate times, all possible tools must be put to use in the service of Creation"
 
Alectai said:
"It is said that the Anathema is a demon, striking at the weakest and most insignificant mortals, possessing them forever more. This is not inaccurate, but nor is it completely the truth. A mortal vessel, properly prepared, educated, and in the height of their talent can attract the attention of the Anathema, and when it attempts to possess them, can seal it's foul will and bend it's power to a more righteous cause. That this is not more common knowledge is for good reason--they are clever and cunning creatures, and will not always take the bait--and even if it should, their foul magic can still prevail should the vessel's will falter in the critical moment. But it is not impossible, and in these desperate times, all possible tools must be put to use in the service of Creation"
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Do you mind if I use this for my omake, if I find the time and energy for it? Because it seems pretty damn good subversive attempt, that actually meshes well with Zao planned and succeeded with us.
 
[X] Begin a Grand Heresy
[X] A Light Touch
-[X] Spend time with Moon
[X] The Knight of Jade [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
-[X] Focus on Administration

The power of red tape compels you!
For now we need someone to govern when we are doing things like sorcery, training or adventure. We also need to introduce Lily to Nilul.
Wasn't Saery going to visit at same time Moon and Nilul came for posting?
 
[X] Begin a Grand Heresy
[X] The King Stands Alone [Additional Limit Gain]
[X] The Knight of Jade [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
-[X] Focus on Administration

While this leaves us weak on the social front this turn, it allows us to let go of administrating Luseng next turn. It starts to process of reforming the Empire instead of dismantling it, it give's Ulyssian the time to grow Luseng's economy and improve it's administration which will provide enough capital to complete the Knight of Jade. The Knight of Jade will ensure forever more the loyalty of Luseng to Ulyssian as well as increase the city and the god's power without any further actions needed.

It will then allow us to focus on either socializing next turn to decrease our limit, train some more, prophecy some more, sorcery some more without having to take administrative actions, or potentially going to find the the Lunar.
 
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[X]Begin a Grand Heresy
[X] The King Stands Alone[Additional Limit Gain]
[X] The Knight of Jade [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
-[X] Focus on Administration
-[X] Convince Lily to help you get the necessary Jade from the Mountain.
 
[X] Begin a Grand Heresy
[X] A Light Touch
-[X] Spend time with Moon
[X] The Knight of Jade [Solar Circle, Ambition 3]
-[X] Focus on Administration
 
Hmm, if we're going to create a 3CD tier entity, isn't Moon far more deserving of our empowerment than a lump of jade? Probably a bit cheaper, too; if we splurge on the colossus, we might not have enough left for Moon, unless we assault the Mountain, which people seem to not want to do for some reason.
 
Savonarola said:
Hmm, if we're going to create a 3CD tier entity, isn't Moon far more deserving of our empowerment than a lump of jade? Probably a bit cheaper, too; if we splurge on the colossus, we might not have enough left for Moon, unless we assault the Mountain, which people seem to not want to do for some reason.
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Uh we're creating the "lump of Jade" because we can leave it behind to keep Luseng in working order when we go off to find Lea as well as lightening the administration burden on Moon.
 
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