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[X] Trust Nilul - She has exposed more of herself than she ever has before, you will have to content yourself with that, and the strength of your friendship. Nilul has never betrayed you, despite her clear strengths in the area, even when it would have been convenient to do so. With the mental energy you spend managing your distrust for her freed up, and full faith in each other, you will be a far more effective team.

[X] Attend the Feast - Why did you take her along, if not for occasions like this? Regardless of whether she can be trusted, her adeptness in the social arena is supreme. She wields her words like you wield a sword, and that is no light compliment to make. While you are still friends, it would be foolish not to seek advantage wherever you can. She is not Lea, but Lea is not here, and the absence of someone like Lea is keenly felt, to Odyssial.
 
[X] Trust Nilul - She has exposed more of herself than she ever has before, you will have to content yourself with that, and the strength of your friendship. Nilul has never betrayed you, despite her clear strengths in the area, even when it would have been convenient to do so. With the mental energy you spend managing your distrust for her freed up, and full faith in each other, you will be a far more effective team.

[X] Attend the Feast
 
Usernames said:
[X] Trust Nilul - She has exposed more of herself than she ever has before, you will have to content yourself with that, and the strength of your friendship. Nilul has never betrayed you, despite her clear strengths in the area, even when it would have been convenient to do so. With the mental energy you spend managing your distrust for her freed up, and full faith in each other, you will be a far more effective team.
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Interesting! I wouldn't have expected you to trust her.
 
[X] Trust Nilul
[X] Attend the feast

Her stated motivation makes a lot of sense both from the view of her as a runaway infernal and as the daughter of the Ebon dragon. What really decided this for me is when she stopped us from giving her the chance to bind us to our promise without requiring anything from her.
 
[X] Trust Nilul

Look. If we absolutely refuse to trust Nilul because she might be able to lie to us, we're not only setting a bad precedent - refusing to bargain with anyone if we're not in a position to dictate demands won't work to maintain or repair Creation in a functional state - we also make it that much more likely that Nilul will betray us.

And there will always be at least one way in which we'll be implicitly trusting her that she'd be able to turn against us, no matter how hard we try to avoid it.

[X] Attend the Feast

As the vote mentions, there's advantage to be found here. We should seize it.
 
I honestly have no preference here. Either option of either vote will lead to hilarious shenanigans. Thus I will not vote unless and until somebody comes up with some killer arguments... Is what I was going to say. But y'know what? Why the hell not? FULL SHENANIGANS AHOY! RED LIKE ROSES FILLS MY DREAMS!!
[x] Trust Nilul
[x] Attend the Feast
 
[X] Trust Nilul
[X] Register and Get Out

Trust her because if we didn't trust her we should have picked Pearl as our second. Don't attend the feast because I'd rather we use the time to prepare to fight than waste it on socializing. That's what Nilul's here for after all.
 
cyberswordsmen said:
[X] Trust Nilul
[X] Attend the feast

Her stated motivation makes a lot of sense both from the view of her as a runaway infernal and as the daughter of the Ebon dragon. What really decided this for me is when she stopped us from giving her the chance to bind us to our promise without requiring anything from her.
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Yes, it's almost as if she knows exactly how a genuine runaway would act in this situation, and is an amazingly capable actress...

Candesce said:
[X] Trust Nilul

Look. If we absolutely refuse to trust Nilul because she might be able to lie to us, we're not only setting a bad precedent - refusing to bargain with anyone if we're not in a position to dictate demands won't work to maintain or repair Creation in a functional state - we also make it that much more likely that Nilul will betray us.

And there will always be at least one way in which we'll be implicitly trusting her that she'd be able to turn against us, no matter how hard we try to avoid it.
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True, though that'd be somewhat MAD, and, more importantly, wouldn't benefit her at all. But both of you have perfect disguise Charms, so... it's kinda a wash!

[X] Attend the Feast

As the vote mentions, there's advantage to be found here. We should seize it.
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But it will make Uly uncomfortable! He could say something not even Nilul could salvage.
 
That was a pretty convincing pitch from her this update, which is obviously all the more reason to regard her even more suspiciously! But jokes aside, we do eventually have to face the fact that, if we're never going to trust her, we probably shouldn't be friends with her at all, which I'm skeptical people would vote for, not even mentioning that she's already got some pretty incriminating stuff on us.

As for attending the feast... eh, surely there is a certain charm in just showing up almost unknown and winning? The eponymous Black Knight? Though to be honest that loses a lot of it's luster considering you have to fill out the paperwork anyway and our second would be in there glad handing. I suppose we could use the opportunity of attending to set up a long con with our disguise skill, insert some sort of flaw into ourselves and then keep it up in the tournament until we run into someone we can't beat ordinarily.
 
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Rihaku said:
*Shrug* What do you expect, then? The arguments and votes decide who wins.



What do you mean by picking out the competition?
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Well since I assuming Better Listener one, this is an opportunity to try out those enhanced senses on all the various competitors to note the various little things that could be taken advantage later. Perhaps we catch a few poisoning attempts between various parties and the like.
 
Rihaku said:
Yes, it's almost as if she knows exactly how a genuine runaway would act in this situation, and is an amazingly capable actress...



True, though that'd be somewhat MAD, and, more importantly, wouldn't benefit her at all. But both of you have perfect disguise Charms, so... it's kinda a wash!



But it will make Uly uncomfortable! He could say something not even Nilul could salvage.
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Like what?

Seriously, what can Ulyssian say that would screw everything up. Not Even Ulyssian is that socially inept.
 
[X] Attend the Feast

Can we take the opportunity of attending to spy on and check out our competition?

If not, then would whatever we're planning for "Attend Feast" be compatible with "Do it under Flawlessly Impenetrable Disguise" to avoid some of the issues with "people know where Ulyssian is and what he acts like"?

Always seek advantage. Social advantage, in this case.
Rihaku said:
No. You are no one's pawn, or fool. When the time comes, you will decide whether to turn her enemies aside - or turn her in. Ultimately, there can be no other way.
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I think that, while the Dragon's Shadow is a twisty bastard, it is equally a bad idea to actually do something he wants you to do. Like hand over a person he's looking for. That is to say, if Nilul is sought and pursued by the Dragon's Shadow, then "give up Nilul to the Ebon Dragon" is probably prima facie a bad thing to do for the simple fact that it's the fucking Ebon Dragon.

Also, Zao seems to trust her, which lends a bit more credence to "she is in trouble from the Ebon Dragon" rather than "it's a trick!".
 
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Rihaku said:
Interesting! I wouldn't have expected you to trust her.
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Eh.

Nilul needs to stop trying to minimax every social situation and just hang loose. Take a chill pill. Not like she is Ulyssian/Odyssial.

Unless she finds it relaxing or something to minimax socialising like Odyssial finds it relaxing to minimax his combative abilities.
 
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You're presently at 185,600 Normal and 428,200 Solar XP, after spending 200,000 Normal and 40,000 Solar XP last update. You will retroactively spend much of your remaining Solar XP before the tournament begins; you're limited to [480,000] XP more, that you can spend efficiently.

Damn you, Priest. At this rate Uly's actually going to be able to use his training time...
 
Eh, I think I'd feel more comfortable if we could get Zao to explain what is up with her. How would she have convinced him to shelter her, and what plans would Zao have had for her?
 
[X] Trust Nilul - She has exposed more of herself than she ever has before, you will have to content yourself with that, and the strength of your friendship. Nilul has never betrayed you, despite her clear strengths in the area, even when it would have been convenient to do so. With the mental energy you spend managing your distrust for her freed up, and full faith in each other, you will be a far more effective team.


[X] Attend the Feast - Why did you take her along, if not for occasions like this? Regardless of whether she can be trusted, her adeptness in the social arena is supreme. She wields her words like you wield a sword, and that is no light compliment to make. While you are still friends, it would be foolish not to seek advantage wherever you can. She is not Lea, but Lea is not here, and the absence of someone like Lea is keenly felt, to Odyssial.
 
Eh, trusting her isn't that much of a sacrifice anyway. Pearl was probably the person Ody trusted second-most in the world, and every time he saw her he worked out a few quintillion ways to kill her. Ody has different standards of trust to regular people.
 
Thomasfoolery said:
That was a pretty convincing pitch from her this update, which is obviously all the more reason to regard her even more suspiciously!
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Indeed! You guys must consider whether she is simply playing the metagame. Like Ulyssian himself would, in a sword-fight.

Thomasfoolery said:
But jokes aside, we do eventually have to face the fact that, if we're never going to trust her, we probably shouldn't be friends with her at all, which I'm skeptical people would vote for, not even mentioning that she's already got some pretty incriminating stuff on us.
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You can still be allies of convenience!

Usernames said:
Like what?

Seriously, what can Ulyssian say that would screw everything up. Not Even Ulyssian is that socially inept.
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Hah! Read and find out!

If that option wins.

Garlak said:
If not, then would whatever we're planning for "Attend Feast" be compatible with "Do it under Flawlessly Impenetrable Disguise" to avoid some of the issues with "people know where Ulyssian is and what he acts like"?
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Well, it's a limited invitational list, so you have to have certain credentials and be actually invited to go.

Garlak said:
Also, Zao seems to trust her, which lends a bit more credence to "she is in trouble from the Ebon Dragon" rather than "it's a trick!".
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She convinced you guys, what's to say she couldn't convince Zao? She's the Princess of Lies! Literally!
 
Uly must check out the competition. Nilul, whether we trust her or not, is damn good at socializing. If we do not scout out our opponents ahead of time, it will bite us in our ass, even if we have a pretty nice ass.

[X] Attend the Feast - Why did you take her along, if not for occasions like this? Regardless of whether she can be trusted, her adeptness in the social arena is supreme. She wields her words like you wield a sword, and that is no light compliment to make. While you are still friends, it would be foolish not to seek advantage wherever you can. She is not Lea, but Lea is not here, and the absence of someone like Lea is keenly felt, to Odyssial.
 
Dark Lord Bob said:
Eh, trusting her isn't that much of a sacrifice anyway. Pearl was probably the person Ody trusted second-most in the world, and every time he saw her he worked out a few quintillion ways to kill her. Ody has different standards of trust to regular people.
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He can't help it, he does that with everybody!

kinglugia said:
Uly must check out the competition. Nilul, whether we trust her or not, is damn good at socializing. If we do not scout out our opponents ahead of time, it will bite us in our ass, even if we have a pretty nice ass.

[X] Attend the Feast - Why did you take her along, if not for occasions like this? Regardless of whether she can be trusted, her adeptness in the social arena is supreme. She wields her words like you wield a sword, and that is no light compliment to make. While you are still friends, it would be foolish not to seek advantage wherever you can. She is not Lea, but Lea is not here, and the absence of someone like Lea is keenly felt, to Odyssial.
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Well, he is planning on scouting them if he doesn't go, just in his own way instead of in a social paradigm.
 
If you commit to trusting her, can you visualize the universe where that turns out to be a mistake? How much worse it would be than the one where you'd listened to your more cautious instincts! This is not a decision you can easily turn back the clock on; you are choosing how Ulyssian instinctively feels and reacts. If you pick this, you will trust Nilul, with all the consequences that entails.
 
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