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Hmm. I think that while Dawn's Superlative Quality of Will mirrors best Odyssial's core being, Twilight's Cunning holds his methods. He seems to have always been one to approach problems from their weakest points, if for no other reason that because it has been the only way. Dawn would allow us to approach the problems with a more brute-force method, while Twilight (in addition of quite a lot of raw power) would in turn open up even more ways to approach the problems.

Still, I have no problem with Dawn being chosen. Just like my choice (obviously) more.

[X] Twilight
 
meianmaru said:
Hmm. I think that while Dawn's Superlative Quality of Will mirrors best Odyssial's core being, Twilight's Cunning holds his methods. He seems to have always been one to approach problems from their weakest points, if for no other reason that because it has been the only way. Dawn would allow us to approach the problems with a more brute-force method, while Twilight (in addition of quite a lot of raw power) would in turn open up even more ways to approach the problems.
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Mm, I would say that both Twilight and Night can represent his indirect methods of attack. Twilight is probably more focused on accumulating advantages for one's self, whereas Night is better at intelligence gathering, defense against indirect attacks, and exploiting specific weaknesses in one's foes. Of course, the principle of compounding means that accumulating advantage for one's self is more efficient in the long run - just take care not to lose it!

In the greater scheme of things, however, I'd say that all of the Castes can reflect Ulyssian's purpose and methods in their own ways. Odyssial's aspect of war is the Strategist, after all.
 
[X] Twilight

Heartlessness is... Well. Let's avoid heartlessness, yes? Besides which, though willpower is important, it is cunning that it is channeled through to seize victory.
 
Rihaku said:
It won't be carried over one-for-one, I still have to calculate the conversion rate. But Priest did do some excellent work near the twilight of that thread, and it will be fairly substantial, I think. You are also getting some XP carried over from The Odyssey itself, though that may not apply to Odyssial - it'll probably be used to raise Ulyssian's stats or something.
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Will we be able to spend XP while playing as Odyssial or will it all be driven by our choices with the XP being saved for when we take over as Ulyssian?
Rihaku said:
In the greater scheme of things, however, I'd say that all of the Castes can reflect Ulyssian's purpose and methods in their own ways. Odyssial's aspect of war is the Strategist, after all.
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He isn't directly inspiring enough to qualify as a Zenith? Because if he was a Zenith by the time the Primordial War ended he might have a chance of beating Merela for the title.
 
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Da Boyz said:
Will we be able to spend XP while playing as Odyssial or will it all be driven by our choices with the XP being saved for when we take over as Ulyssian?

He isn't directly inspiring enough to qualify as a Zenith? Because if he was a Zenith by the time the Primordial War ended he might have a chance of beating Merela for the title.
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You might, I'm still working on mechanics. I'd prefer to wait until 3E is officially released before moving to a full crunch system!

Mm, I felt like Zenith and Eclipse don't fit Odyssial very well. His Mental and Physical are definitely prioritized above Social, unless it's for terrifying people. But I wouldn't be adverse to a write-in, if you guys really want to go social.
 
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Rihaku said:
You might, I'm still working on mechanics. I'd prefer to wait before 3E is officially released before moving to a full crunch system!

Mm, I felt like Zenith and Eclipse don't fit Odyssial very well. His Mental and Physical are definitely prioritized above Social, unless it's for terrifying people. But I wouldn't be adverse to a write-in, if you guys really want to go social.
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It would certainly make for a radical play-shift when we go back to Ulyssian, but at the same time it would likely allow us to have the greatest effects on the setting. Actually would a Primordial Slayer be valued higher then a prodigiously talented Zenith as a ruler, or would the innate talents of the Zenith allow her to sway the opinion of the Exalted Host?
 
I count 20 participants so far, so you're at a tentative 40,000 XP before I add in XP from the last thread. An auspicious start!

It looks like Dawn is up to an early lead on votes, but Twilight has the lead on arguments by far.
 
Da Boyz said:
It would certainly make for a radical play-shift when we go back to Ulyssian, but at the same time it would likely allow us to have the greatest effects on the setting. Actually would a Primordial Slayer be valued higher then a prodigiously talented Zenith as a ruler, or would the innate talents of the Zenith allow her to sway the opinion of the Exalted Host?
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Hm, I don't know if Odyssial would be particularly interested in ruling. It's kind of a distraction from becoming more powerful. If becoming the ruler of the host is something you're aiming for, it's definitely possible I suppose. There's always the tried and true method of simply killing everyone until their reincarnations fall in line.
 
[X] Dawn

Strength is the first virtue, without it no other virtue may exist. Without the force of arms needed to protect them neither cunning nor compassion may accomplish much.
 
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[X] Twilight - feels like a natural progression from how they've survived this far. Using available resources to overcome "nature", understanding the world to game it.
Matching power with power is unfeasible against many of the things out there - at least right now the guy is not exalted, and is well aware that there are things he can't fight and win.
Going back and saying "come at me, bro" is him cracking, leaving survival behind for pride?
 
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Da Boyz said:
It would certainly make for a radical play-shift when we go back to Ulyssian, but at the same time it would likely allow us to have the greatest effects on the setting. Actually would a Primordial Slayer be valued higher then a prodigiously talented Zenith as a ruler, or would the innate talents of the Zenith allow her to sway the opinion of the Exalted Host?
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Castes aren't ironclad delineations of purpose, just a natural predisposition for one set of skills over another. Odyssial might have to work harder to cultivate the oratorical prowess native to the Zenith, but hard work has never been an issue where he is concerned. Basically, what I'm saying is that we can have our cake and eat it too.
 
[X] Twilight
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After consideration, the 3E style handling of Craft, Lore and Occult would be rather interesting to see in play. We can change the world, but do we do so by making our people's lot better and more secure, or do we simply kill threats as they arise?

How do we make the greatest difference...and how do we slay the imcomprehensible?

By knowing how they fall.
 
a11behringer said:
[X] Dawn

Strength is the first virtue, without it no other virtue may exist. Without the force of arms needed to protect them neither cunning nor compassion may accomplish much.
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This. Ultimately, ingenuity and cunning are lenses through which determination expresses itself. Important, yes, without a doubt... but had we lacked an indomitable will, we would never have made it as far as we have now, persevering in the face of unimaginable hardship. We would not have dared to persist when one of the very entities that forged Creation came down from the sky and laid waste to our people. Sometimes, all the creativity in the world avails you nothing in the face of fathomless horrors, and you need the simple courage to spit into the maw of the abyss, defiant.
 
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Orm Embar said:
Odyssial might have to work harder to cultivate the oratorical prowess native to the Zenith, but hard work has never been an issue where he is concerned. Basically, what I'm saying is that we can have our cake and eat it too.
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In line with this, Odyssial (and Ulyssian) have never been defined by their prowess, but rather their insane personality. I feel that cultivating the quality that raised him above all others, a determination that cannot be broken which fuels his ascent is most appropriate. Remember guys, Odyssial trained everything, forever, until he had maxed out all attributes and stats, created custom charms and defined his own Limit break. One of the most fundamental aspects of the Uly/Ody pair for me was how purely and greatly they embodied determination, and I'll vote for the option that reflects that.

[X] Dawn
 
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