Even Further Beyond [Complete]

[X] I'll Face Myself

Changed my mind. If Nameless actually wants to be an emperor than this needs to happen. This may actually be the last time Nameless has a chance to do it, it took the extrusion to convince him that he needs to change. We may never get the chance again since after this Nameless may be fine with his nature.

This will probably also improve our action economy and greatly increase our chances of victory. Since Nameless will no longer be slacking off.
 
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[X] Pursuit of the Truth
[X] I'll Face Myself
[X] Open the Way
[X] Prodigious Might

I'll probably switch from Face to Diligent when it falls way too far behind, but I prefer a higher chance of removing Spoiled to avoiding the philosophical issues. Prodigious Might True is too good to pass up. Since Nameless is so strong, making physical attacks do essence damage is wonderful against enemies that we can't normally just punch gooder.
 
Heroic passions including spoiled are chains that binds the Nameless from achieving his true potential. Chains forged by fate. To be truly free he needs to get rid of them.

Even in the update, Nameless is admitting that power is making him even more complacent. The closer Nameless gets to winning, the more complacent he will become. Fates and Zang Kong will without doubt will have tricks up their sleeves, his complacency will give them a chance toward victory.

Let's remove our greatness weakness and the last chains that binds the Daoless one.
 
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Heroic passions including spoiled are chains that binds the Nameless from achieving his true potential. Chains forged by fate. To be truly free he needs to get rid of them.

Even in the update, Nameless is admitting that power is making him even more complacent.

Which is also why I want him to work diligently, not simply be less spoiled. Even in the short time period between our first talk to Lich and now, Nameless has developed a love for experimenting with Necromancy thanks to working with Veil up.
I really want to develop his love for learning and exploring to the point it drives him more than wanting comfort.
 
[X] Pursuit of the Truth
[X] Extra Diligent
[X] Open the Way
[X] Palimpsest - Form of Balance [1 Beyond Point]
 
Have we decided what our Cerebation will be used on?

Even a target like Zang Kong would be worthwhile..
 
Depends on what things will look like at the end of the year. There's something to be said for immediately gunning for the Heroine, but we can't be sure we'll have our esoteric suite up, nor that other distractions won't crop up.
 
There is always the Tomb...

I am still interested in ressurecting a god...They can tell us so much!

[X] Plan Overlord
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There is always the Tomb...

I am still interested in ressurecting a god...They can tell us so much!

Pretty sure Ressurection and Essence Absorption are the parts of our Extrusion that will be hardest to master. Not certain if we will be able to get either up in time for the Heroine, sadly. And after that, ressurecting a god is... kind of pointlessly dangerous.
 
[X] PLAN - BE PREPARED!

[X] Pursuit of the Truth
[X] Extra Diligent
[X] Prodigious Might
[X] Palimpsest - Form of Balance [1 Beyond Point]

Reasons:
Power!
Further Power!
Shore up Esoteric Defenses! (SORELY NEEDED)
Combat Power!

True, it's not going with
[ ] I'll Face Myself
but everything else is much more pressing at this point. It's not as if we'll be able to make use of some new Emanation before the Heroine awakes.

Pretty sure that Cultivation Speed isn't going to help before the Heroine awakes, and having useful skills would be quite useful.
 
Power, however, is the one thing we don't need to deal with the Heroine. We have more than enough right now. This makes pretty much every other option on the list more important than Prodigious Might.
Isn't Prodigious Might specifically called out in the update as being the, "Heavy esoteric offense and defense" option? Definitely not as good as Flare or a Diagram Kill Panopoly for the purpose of heroine-killing, but not negligible.
 
Isn't Prodigious Might specifically called out in the update as being the, "Heavy esoteric offense and defense" option? Definitely not as good as Flare or a Diagram Kill Panopoly for the purpose of heroine-killing, but not negligible.

It is, but necromancer abilities should cover our estoric offence.
If diligence was unpopular I would consider true might, but at the moment it seems unneeded.
 
Isn't Prodigious Might specifically called out in the update as being the, "Heavy esoteric offense and defense" option? Definitely not as good as Flare or a Diagram Kill Panopoly for the purpose of heroine-killing, but not negligible.

It can hurt people's Essence. Necromancy can suck out people's Essence. True Might's esoteric offense is something we already have.
 
Kong won't wake up for some years yet and Shen is sitting on his ass doing who knows what. How exactly are they supposed to prevent the Empire's collapse? Kong was free to say that because his life doesn't actually depend on maintaining the Empire's governance. We're not so fortunate.

Not to mention that setting the goals of 'killing the Heroine' and 'helping the Empire' in opposition and being the hard man making the hard decisions risks us gettting blindsided by the Empire's collapse while we're looking for her.
I mean in grans scheme of thing the beast is just reality forming and grand sophism.

The council of elder can deal with reality forming beast just fine and like I said people will be dying because we don't take action.

Grand sophism maybe need group of grand sophism elder to deal with.

About why Empire will survive...because as long as Yong Shen still alive then no beast can destroy Yong directional province of the empire ,Same go for Kong territory.

The age end when empire that define that age is collapse and winter labyrinth is design to do that.


Directional governance like Yong or Kong territory,Center of Emperor.

You need to wipe institution of the Empire to do that.

Emperor can replace,Yong and Kong not.

That why the word " Yong and Kong survive,the empire will survive"

Do you think the fate can kill Kong in this event and made the Empire collapse?

If you believe that then I don't have anything to argue against here.

Grand sophism beast can not threaten the empire.

And if one of the sect kill the emperor then "The Emperor is dead,Long Live the Emperor".
 
I mean in grans scheme of thing the beast is just reality forming and grand sophism.

The council of elder can deal with reality forming beast just fine and like I said people will be dying because we don't take action.

Don't underestimate Zang Kong. We know the Overgrowth was a comparatively recent development made by him because it was the trigger for the end of the Age, so combined with the length of cultivation stages we can confidently state that he needed it to cultivate through his Titan III or Titan IV stages. If the Overgrowth was intended to help with that, it would honestly be strange if it only contained RF and GS level beasts. Treasures dropped by those would be barely a drop in an ocean to a Titan III.

We know that the Deep Overgrowth contains RM and GS level beasts, but we do not know if the Deep Overgrowth is truly the deepest part of the cultivation realm Zang Kong has created. There may be much stronger beasts lurking within... And now that Kang Zong is asleep and hunts them no more...
 
I think that Kong is a pretty cool mofo and we shouldn't underestimate the Endless Sky.

Who knows what the man is capable of, after all? I wouldn't put it past him to have a couple of Monarch +++++++++ level Dragons in his pocket.
 
I mean in grans scheme of thing the beast is just reality forming and grand sophism.

The council of elder can deal with reality forming beast just fine and like I said people will be dying because we don't take action.

Grand sophism maybe need group of grand sophism elder to deal with.

About why Empire will survive...because as long as Yong Shen still alive then no beast can destroy Yong directional province of the empire ,Same go for Kong territory.

The age end when empire that define that age is collapse and winter labyrinth is design to do that.


Directional governance like Yong or Kong territory,Center of Emperor.

You need to wipe institution of the Empire to do that.

Emperor can replace,Yong and Kong not.

That why the word " Yong and Kong survive,the empire will survive"

Do you think the fate can kill Kong in this event and made the Empire collapse?

If you believe that then I don't have anything to argue against here.

Grand sophism beast can not threaten the empire.

And if one of the sect kill the emperor then "The Emperor is dead,Long Live the Emperor".
Wiping out the institution of the Empire can be done in a myriad of ways that have nothing to do with killing Kong or Shen. No Emperor? We're fucked. The Oath Artifact is destroyed or lost? We're fucked. The Empire is overrun by the Overgrowth? You get the drift. Thinking that the Empire is safe just because Kong (who is asleep) and Shen (who is doing fuck all) are alive is the worst sort of complacency, about on the same level as thinking that the Fates don't pose any threat to us anymore.
 
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