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Echoes of Creation (30k/Exalted)

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[X] Transcendent Desert Creature

[X] Sorcerous Enlightenment of SHLiHN
Time to become the terrifying desert sorcerer.
 
dgr11897 said:
I feel like there's two obvious choices. Sorcerous enlightenment and Desert Creature. Desert Creature because, I mean, come on look at where we are. Sorcerous enlightenment because the bonus to casting will be very useful and it helps us double down on being a caster/crafter.
Edit: also since both are passive it frees up our essence for wish granting to buff our tribe.
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Hellscry Chakra and Mind-Hand Manipulation also have some synergy, though I'm not sure which local beasties might count as Demons (or gods or elementals with later upgrades). I do want to get Factual Determination Analysis soon since it's a prerequisite for Essence Dissecting Stare, but getting something more immediately useful for our survival tasks is probably better for now.
 
SouvikKundu said:
What is difference between a devil trigger and Primordial pro and con?
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A Devil Tiger is basically yourself as a Primoridal. You get your own Charmset based on you.

A primordial is absurdly powerful, but they cannot think outside of their box. Malfeas is literally incapable of being subtle save by killing everyone who notices him, for example. Becoming a primordial would mean becoming that Primordial. So becoming Malfeas. Not ideal.
 
SouvikKundu said:
Is it possible for him to become a Primordial?

Is it possible for him to get access to other Yozi charms that you not listed?
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He can become a Devil tiger but not a Primordial.
dgr11897 said:
Is it possible to make more jugs of endless water?
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Unfortunately no. This was a moment of inspiration dhere his past lives came forth for a number of reasons.

Robotninja said:
Yes. As long as the Yozi has opened their charmset.
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You get to unlock a Yozi charm set every time you raise your Essence.

This was a decision I took for both practical and thematic reasons.
 
SouvikKundu said:
What is difference between a devil trigger and Primordial pro and con?
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Devil-Tiger has all the benefits of being a Primordial, except you retain the mortal capacity for flexibility. IIRC you also don't have a Fetich which is mostly a pro since people can't inflict ego death on you by killing it.
Earth-Destroyer said:
Hellscry to start on getting to a spirit killer
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The only Cecelyne spirit killer I'm aware of comes from Desert Creature, not Hellscry.
 
[X] Transcendent Desert Creature
[X] Sorcerous Enlightenment of SHLiHN

Honestly this combination seems… obvious, as much as I think Hellskry would be really useful and that Fan will need it before long, it's not going to be helpful right this instant, plus the spirits can probably help with most of its functions for now.
 
[X] Transcendent Desert Creature
Come on, have you seen our planet?

[X] Sorcerous Enlightenment of SHLiHN
Early start is best start.
 
Yzarc said:
CHOOSE 1 SHLiHN CHARM
Mind-Hand Manipulation
The spinning orbs of She Who Lives In Her Name have no hands with which to grapple and impose order on the world. They are not so crude.

The Infernal may spend 1 Essence and for the rest of the scene, can move other objects with his mind as though manipulating them with his own body, exerting force or even lifting objects and carrying them through the air at speeds up to his own current velocity. His telekinesis trails Obvious ripples of spatial distortion and white light as prehensile tendrils of mental force. This Charm substitutes Willpower for Attribute + Ability Rolls. The associated Ability to use this Charm is Occult. Mind-Hand Manipulation can move perceived incorporeal beings and objects, but its effective Willpower Rating is halved.
Factual Determination Analysis
The Principle of Hierarchy recognizes the totality of truth.

The Infernal may spend 1 Essence and for the rest of the scene, whenever someone knowingly lies to the Infernal, they recognize the lie immediately for what it is. This does not include half-truths and lies of omission, though it reduces the difficulty of seeing through such actions by -3 difficulty.

If this Charm contests another, add the Infernal's Essence rating in bonus successes to the roll-off. Truth is measured from the perspective of the speaker rather than based on objective truth. Factual Determination Analysis does not supply the truth along with its binary measure.
Sorcerous Enlightenment of SHLiHN
By the power of the Primordials, Creation came into existence and elements, deities and even life upon it. Sorcery is this power, filtered down through fractured glimpses of understanding that cannot begin to describe the intricate elegance of the universe. To be a sorcerer is to be mad with jagged shards of cosmic awareness and with will and might enough to impose that madness on the world.

The Infernal permanently gains -2 Difficulty on all Sorcery rolls.
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Shouldn't that be SWLIHN, She Who Lives In Her Name.
 
[X] Hellscry Chakra
[X] Sorcerous Enlightenment of SHLiHN

Reasoning: Although Transcendent Desert Creature is quite tempting, the quest to restore the world soul will definitely face difficulties imposed by eaemonic entities and we may face entities we think are daemonic but are in truth something else. Meanwhile the Transcendent Desert Creature Charm is decently situational based and once we leave the early stages of the quest will see less use.

Our legacy also lives and dies with our tribe. If we fail our tribe enough where that resource consumption makes a huge difference then we have already failed our tribe. Sure it would be useful and that stealth benefit could come in clutch but by no means is it necessary. If we theorically end up joining the Emperor's Crusade later then that Hellscry charm would see a lot of use even after we complete our quest at restoring the worlds spirit.

It may help us also teach our future son to better notice the signs of daemonic presence but I'm unsure about that one.
 
[X] Hellscry Chakra
[X] Sorcerous Enlightenment of SHLiHN

I am split between hellskry and desert creature.....

I mean stealth is super usefull and easy living on this planet also but we cant really teach anyone this stuff...

BUT this is Warhammer there be daemons yo
 
Xerio said:
Reasoning: Although Transcendent Desert Creature is quite tempting, the quest to restore the world soul will definitely face difficulties imposed by eaemonic entities and we may face entities we think are daemonic but are in truth something else.
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Do we actually know Hellscry will work on Daemons? Technically, it's only supposed to work on the Demons of the Yozi.
Xerio said:
Meanwhile the Transcendent Desert Creature Charm is decently situational based and once we leave the early stages of the quest will see less use.
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A lot of Cecelyne Charms require Places of Desolation, so we're probably going to be either settling in or making deserts throughout, and a lot of those more powerful charms have TDC as a prerequisite.
 
The Froggy Ninja said:
Do we actually know Hellscry will work on Daemons? Technically, it's only supposed to work on the Demons of the Yozi.

A lot of Cecelyne Charms require Places of Desolation, so we're probably going to be either settling in or making deserts throughout, and a lot of those more powerful charms have TDC as a prerequisite.
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I assume so as I think blood ape called the followers of the Four demons. Maybe it was a translation error but I assumed the wording hinted at them counting.

I didn't know about that so yeah it's a very tempting alternative but the ability to more clearly detect daemons and daemonic possessions, or just simply tell if something is daemonic or not makes the hellscry quite useful especially since we will be interacting with the warp a lot. That's not considering the quest that wants us to potentially interact with men of stone who have a known issue with daemonic possession.
 
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