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East Africa 1930: An ORBAT Quest

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[X] Plan: Infantry Schools
-[X] Establish an Infantry School - Our riflemen are currently trained in an ad-hoc fashion. The establishment of a proper School would allow us to drill our soldiers in more advanced tactics and provide a single baseline for all of our forces, so that officers can more easily assume command of troops they have not trained with. (12-Month Investment.)
-[X] Analysis: The Foreigners Have Some Good Ideas - Send observation teams overseas to take the best ideas from foreign nations. (6-Month Investment.)
--[X] Send typed-out contact info along with our observation team should they find foreign officers who are open to come teach in Reewiin.

I think that it would be useful to get started on establishing an infantry school now, we can postpone forming a naval service to when the point from the Carabinieri Oversight office is freed up.
 
Are options from previous turns to form a proper separate Navy still available, in case an argument for that comes up?

The meme of Carabinavy is too strong though, I can't resist it 😂

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[] Plan: Training Ship
-[] Establish an Infantry School - Our riflemen are currently trained in an ad-hoc fashion. The establishment of a proper School would allow us to drill our soldiers in more advanced tactics and provide a single baseline for all of our forces, so that officers can more easily assume command of troops they have not trained with. (12-Month Investment.)
-[] Form a Naval Service: Carabinieri Maritime Policing Unit - The Kutulo could most easily be subsumed into the Carabinieri, since they already have a boat section for policing Lake Turkana. (3-Month Investment.)
 
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[X] Plan: Infantry Schools


[ ] Form a Naval Service: Carabinieri Maritime Policing Unit - The Kutulo could most easily be subsumed into the Carabinieri, since they already have a boat section for policing Lake Turkana. (3-Month Investment.)
Can the Carabinieri Office do this next turn?
 
Potato Anarchy said:
the carabinavy will fuck people up, show some respect!!
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I want people to show disrespect, so they get fucked up by the Carabinavy!


sunrise said:
[ ] Form a Naval Service: Carabinieri Maritime Policing Unit - The Kutulo could most easily be subsumed into the Carabinieri, since they already have a boat section for policing Lake Turkana. (3-Month Investment.)
Can the Carabinieri Office do this next turn?
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FrangibleCover said:
Yes, the Carabinieri Office can be used to set up the Maritime Policing Unit.
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So. Idea. We don't make the Carabinavy this turn. We do it next turn with the Carabinieri action.


[X] Plan: Navy Tomorrow
-[X] Marksmanship Training - With an average of twenty rounds per man per year, marksmanship is of very poor quality. Regular range training will begin to improve this, not only for the infantry but for the cavalry and artillery too. (6-Month Investment.)
--[X] Optional: Request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJA institutional knowledge.
-[X] Analysis: The Foreigners Have Some Good Ideas - Send observation teams overseas to take the best ideas from foreign nations. (6-Month Investment.)
--[X] Send typed-out contact info along with our observation team should they find foreign officers who are open to come teach in Reewiin.

[X] Plan: Learn Things
 
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I don't think there's actually a significant efficiency advantage to waiting to use the Carabinieri point on the carabinavy? We get the point back next turn anyway, and if we get the navy started this turn we can use the Carabinieri point to do other actions to make it better. This way we at least see those options sooner.
 
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    • [X] Plan: Learn Things
      -[X] Form a Naval Service: Carabinieri Maritime Policing Unit - The Kutulo could most easily be subsumed into the Carabinieri, since they already have a boat section for policing Lake Turkana.
      -[X] Analysis: The Foreigners Have Some Good Ideas - Send observation teams overseas to take the best ideas from foreign nations. (6-Month Investment.)
      --[X] Send typed-out contact info along with our observation team should they find foreign officers who are open to come teach in Reewiin.
      [X] Plan: Basic Training
      -[X] Marksmanship Training - With an average of twenty rounds per man per year, marksmanship is of very poor quality. Regular range training will begin to improve this, not only for the infantry but for the cavalry and artillery too. (6-Month Investment.)
      --[X] Optional: Request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJA institutional knowledge.
      -[X] Form a Naval Service: Carabinieri Maritime Policing Unit - The Kutulo could most easily be subsumed into the Carabinieri, since they already have a boat section for policing Lake Turkana. (3-Month Investment.)
      [X] Plan: Infantry Schools
      -[X] Establish an Infantry School - Our riflemen are currently trained in an ad-hoc fashion. The establishment of a proper School would allow us to drill our soldiers in more advanced tactics and provide a single baseline for all of our forces, so that officers can more easily assume command of troops they have not trained with. (12-Month Investment.)
      -[X] Analysis: The Foreigners Have Some Good Ideas - Send observation teams overseas to take the best ideas from foreign nations. (6-Month Investment.)
      --[X] Send typed-out contact info along with our observation team should they find foreign officers who are open to come teach in Reewiin.
      [X] Plan: Navy Tomorrow
      -[X] Marksmanship Training - With an average of twenty rounds per man per year, marksmanship is of very poor quality. Regular range training will begin to improve this, not only for the infantry but for the cavalry and artillery too. (6-Month Investment.)
      --[X] Optional: Request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJA institutional knowledge.
      -[X] Analysis: The Foreigners Have Some Good Ideas - Send observation teams overseas to take the best ideas from foreign nations. (6-Month Investment.)
      --[X] Send typed-out contact info along with our observation team should they find foreign officers who are open to come teach in Reewiin.
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    Turn 13 News, Rumours, & Updates: January-March 1933
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    • Turn 13 News, Rumours, & Updates: January-March 1933

    Project Development

    Ongoing Projects

    [X] Establish the Ordnance Office - Developing an arms industry from scratch will take time and effort. An Ordnance Office will allow us to delegate some of that work to specialists. (Constant Investment.)
    [X] Production Licensing: Machine Guns - Attempt to buy the rights to produce the ZB vz.30 in 6.5×50 mmSR. (3 Months Remain) ☑☑☑◻
    [X] Establish the Carabinieri Oversight Office - No one really keeps an eye on the paramilitary police force that keeps watch over the nation. If the force is to be reformed and re-established in a new role, then oversight is needed at the very least. (Constant Investment.)
    [X] Organisational Reform: Wilderness Rangers - The Carabinieri is responsible for massive tracts of rural land. A specialist ranger unit trained in long-distance patrol and survival would be useful to the force as a whole. (3 Months Remain) ☑☑◻
    [X] Analysis: The Foreigners Have Some Good Ideas - Send observation teams overseas to take the best ideas from foreign nations. (3 Months Remain) ☑◻
    [X] Send typed-out contact info along with our observation team should they find foreign officers who are open to come teach in Reewiin.

    Completed Projects

    [X] Information Review: Government - Determine what the civilian government wants out of their armed forces. (Complete) ☑
    [X] New Council Liaisons: Create permanent non-voting liaisons for the armed services and industry. Two will go to the armed services (one for each service, currently the Army and Carabinieri), and three will be industrial representatives: one for each of the arms industry, the rail industry, the recognized unions in these industries. (Complete) ☑
    [X] Form a Naval Service: Carabinieri Maritime Policing Unit - The Kutulo could most easily be subsumed into the Carabinieri, since they already have a boat section for policing Lake Turkana. (Complete) ☑

    Kismayo-Turkana Line:
    Progress, Marsabit-Turkana: 70% (Est. completion October 1933)

    Arisaka Rifles, Orders, and Production:
    Progress, Rifle Deliveries: 80% (Est. completion December 1932)
    Progress, Rifle Factory: 3 rifles per day

    Type 3 HMG Project:
    Progress, Reverse Engineering: Experiencing Delays (Est. completion ???)

    January 1933

    International Headlines

    Copenhagen: Denmark abolishes capital punishment.
    Managua: Juan Bautista Sacasa takes office as President of Nicarauga; United Stares marine forces depart the country, ending 24-year occupation.
    Hsinking: Chinese bandits attack Japanese garrison with grenades. A swift counter-attack sees Chinese forces fleeing before the Japanese 8th Division.
    Le Havre: Liner L'Atlantique burns: 225 dead.
    New York: Doctor caught running red counterfeiting operation! Does the communist hatred for sound monetary policy know no bounds?
    Northampton: Calvin Coolidge, 30th President of the United States, found dead in his home.
    Friedrichshain: Street fight erupts between national socialists, communists, outside red rally.
    Casas Viejas: Civilians dead after anarchists, soldiers clash.
    Athens: Panagis Tsaldaris' cabinet faces opposition, resigns. Eleutherios Venizelos forms new cabinet.
    Atlanta: Court slaps down communist agitation: Angelo Herndon gets 18 years.
    Tahoua: Missing aviatrix Lady Bailey found after four days in Sahara desert.
    La Paz: Bolivian forces under new Supreme Commander, General Hans Kundt, begin a general advance into Paraguayan-held Chaco. Barbaric fighting around Nanawa as soldiers resort to machetes in the close terrain.
    Guatemala City: Special boundary commission settles three-war border dispute between Guatemala, Honduras.
    Dublin: Fianna Fáil party wins one-seat majority in Irish Free State elections.
    Paris: Premier Joseph Paul-Boncour of France resigns after vote of no confidence.
    Berlin: Chancellor Kurt von Schleicher resigns. Adolf Hitler sworn in as new Chancellor of Germany.

    February 1933

    International Headlines

    Tegucigalpa: Tiburcio Carías Andino enters office as president of Honduras.
    Guatemala City: Departure of US troops spurs ceasefire negotiations between government, Sandinista rebels.
    Olehleh: Dutch sailors mutiny! Dutch navy in pursuit of mutinying De Zeven Provincien. Ship surrenders after aeroplane drops bombs, killing several mutineers.
    Washington: Electoral congress confirms Roosevelt for president.
    Berlin: Chancellor Hitler declares German rearmament.
    Warsaw: New international convention to govern travel by air ratified.
    Detroit: Week-long closure of banks sparks further closures across the United States.
    Miami: Diminutive assassin attacks President-elect Roosevelt, hits Chicago mayor instead.
    Washington: United States government moves to lift alcohol prohibition.
    Moscow: Foreign journalists banned from travelling outside the capital.
    Berlin: Police raid on communist headquarters uncovers plans for arson campaign. Communist Marinus Van der Lubbe arrested after fire at Reichstag building. President Hindenburg approves emergency decree: freedom of speech, press, assembly restricted. Chancellor Hitler's personal bodyguard arrest communist party leader Ernst Thälmann.

    March 1933

    International Headlines

    Sanriku: Tsunami devastates Sanriku in Tohoku. Thousands dead, with officials estimating over 3,000 dead.
    Washington: Franklin Delano Roosevelt takes office as US president.
    Vienna: Australian lower house activities suspended after all eligible speakers resign. Parliament prevented from reconvening.
    Washington: Bank crisis worsens: 37 states close banks, federal reserve banks halt operations. New President Roosevelt declares 'bank holiday', closing all banks in United States for five days.
    Kambi: Solomon kaDinuzulu, King of the Zulus, dies.
    Berlin: National Socialist party takes 43% of seats in parliamentary elections. New parliament votes in law giving Chancellor powers to pass laws by decree.
    Athens: People's Party takes plurality in parliamentary elections. Panagis Tsaldaris takes office as prime minister of Greece, is arrested by general Nikolaos Plastiras. General Alexandros Othonaios new prime minister.
    Lisbon: Portugal votes in new constitution: More powers for prime minister Salazar.
    Raiford: Presidential assassin Giuseppe Zangara gets the chair!
    New York: Jews march in protest against Chancellor Hitler.
    Riga: Ādolfs Bļodnieks takes office as prime minister of Latvia.
    Geneva: In light of the untenable demands the League of Nations has placed on Japan, the country declares its withdrawal from the League.
    Berlin: Massive famine in Soviet Union: journalist reports starvation in communist Ukraine.
    London: Sale of land in Mandate of Palestine to jews approved.
    New York: Duranty: Claims of famine in Ukraine "a big scare story."
    Montevideo: President Gabriel Terra, national police, army suspends national administrative council, parliament, chamber of senator, proclaims third republic of Uruguay.

    Issues

    A Pat On The Back

    The Defence Minister and his Foreign Policy faction of government are very pleased by your immediate action on the matter of RRCS Kutulo. They are so pleased, in fact, that they have informed the Council that a minor underspend in the Ministry of the Interior's budget for last year remains available. They would like you to spend it. The money available is less than that represented by an investment point, but across the course of the year, it would be enough to fund one of the six-month projects the Council has been looking at. Which would you like?

    Industry and Logistics

    Armaments
    [ ] Weapon Testing: Anti-Air Weapons - The Ordnance Office will buy a handful of machine guns and cannons from around the world and test them until they break. Afterwards, they will make recommendations to the Defence Council on the topic of AA weapons.

    [ ] Weapon Testing: Anti-Tank Weapons - The Ordnance Office will research a handful of field guns and large calibre rifles from around the world. Afterwards, they will make recommendations to the Defence Council on the topic of AT weapons.

    [ ] Increase Funding: Type 3 - By funnelling additional investment towards the Type 3 project, it may be possible to have a prototype ready faster.

    Doctrine and Organisation

    DCIRRO
    [ ] Analysis: Ethiopia - Long-term analysis of the optimal army to defend Reewiin against our eternal enemy, Ethiopia.

    [ ] Analysis: Britain - Long-term analysis of the optimal army to defend Reewiin against our eternal enemy, Britain.

    [ ] Analysis: Italy - Long-term analysis of the optimal army to defend Reewiin against our eternal enemy, Italy.


    Reforming the Army
    [ ] Manoeuvre Training - The Army Review has determined that Reewiin's standing military is not currently fit for the task. Field manoeuvres will begin to improve this.
    [ ] Optional: Request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJN institutional knowledge.
    [ ] Optional: Request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJA institutional knowledge.

    [ ] Marksmanship Training - With an average of twenty rounds per man per year, marksmanship is of very poor quality. Regular range training will begin to improve this, not only for the infantry but for the cavalry and artillery too.
    [ ] Optional: Request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJN institutional knowledge.
    [ ] Optional: Request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJA institutional knowledge.

    [ ] Cavalry Training - The Cavalry are loath to conduct operations en-masse, leaving them poorly equipped for the field. Regular deployments into central Reewiin will begin to improve this.
    [ ] Optional: Request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJA institutional knowledge.

    [ ] Artillery Training - Our artillery capability is doctrinally obsolescent, with all firing conducted over open sights. More realistic training will begin to improve this.
    [ ] Optional: Request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJN institutional knowledge.
    [ ] Optional: Request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJA institutional knowledge.

    [ ] Establish an Officer Academy - Our officers are currently trained in an ad-hoc fashion. The establishment of a proper Academy would allow us to educate more officers, and provide a centre for spreading doctrinal advances across the military by running a series of advanced courses and bringing able officers back as instructors. Completing this with the funding available requires Japanese assistance.
    [ ] And request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJN institutional knowledge.
    [ ] And request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJA institutional knowledge.

    [ ] Establish an Infantry School - Our riflemen are currently trained in an ad-hoc fashion. The establishment of a proper School would allow us to drill our soldiers in more advanced tactics and provide a single baseline for all of our forces, so that officers can more easily assume command of troops they have not trained with. Completing this with the funding available requires Japanese assistance.
    [ ] And request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJN institutional knowledge.
    [ ] And request Japanese support for this program, improving impacts and benefiting from IJA institutional knowledge.

    Usual mechanism, 6 hour moratorium, 3 day vote.
     
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    • Olehleh: Dutch sailors mutiny! Dutch navy in pursuit of mutinying De Zeven Provincien. Ship surrenders after aeroplane drops bombs, killing several mutineers.

    HMMMMMMMMMM.
    THIS MIGHT BE SIGNIFICIANT.

    Geneva: In light of the untenable demands the League of Nations has placed on Japan, the country declares its withdrawal from the League.

    Is Reewiin staying in the League of Nations? I hope so.

    Anyways, my thoughts are that we should pick one of these two:

    [ ] Increase Funding: Type 3 - By funnelling additional investment towards the Type 3 project, it may be possible to have a prototype ready faster.
    [ ] Marksmanship Training - With an average of twenty rounds per man per year, marksmanship is of very poor quality. Regular range training will begin to improve this, not only for the infantry but for the cavalry and artillery too.

    The Type 3 project moving faster is good in that it gives us a domestic MMG; we can also fit it with AA sights to kill two birds with one stone (in addition to buying more 13.2 mm guns). The marksmanship training was almost picked last turn and helps address some issues we have, so it seems an obvious choice as well. If possible I'd like to extend the marksmanship training to the Carabinieri, but that may be too much for half a point.

    I would have included the Infantry School, but I am not comfortable with asking for Japanese assistance. Japanese training was notoriously brutal, iirc, and not particularly effective for that. Tensions are high between Reewiin and Japan, so that's another reason to try and avoid their involvement. It's also likely to instill similar ideas in our soldiers, and quasi-Japanese military culture is the last thing we need.
     
    I assume that if we take one of the DCIRRO options, it's using 'army' in the general sense and will still include ideas and recommendations involving the Carabinieri and their naval service as well as the main army?
     
    Since studying Ethiopia, Italy or Britain is noted as long term will choosing one of them require constant investment or will once be enough for a few years?
     
    My inclination is to do one of the DCIRRO options, especially Britain, since I think more study of how we frustrate a superior enemy is something we would benefit from. I'm wary of using this spend on something more directly relevant to our near future plans because it's going to be effectively slowed down - taking a year instead of six months - and so anything following from it will be delayed.
     
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