Dragon Summoning
Rarden
Miscellaneous reptile
- Pronouns
- She/They
This is kind of the rub with any plans to summon more dragons, isn't it. We have no idea if any of the people we summon will have the binding vaccine.
We also have no idea if the villagers/their leadership will be desperate enough to go along with the plan of summoning additional, potentially massively more dangerous, dragons right into their midst.
Add on the stipulation of "pretty please don't bind anyone else" and it's probably going to be a hard sell, to say nothing of how the dragons might feel about being pressured into fighting a war if all they want to do is get home to Fulcrum.
That said, if the other side is also summoning/binding dragons then our hosts might have an arms race on their hands.
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
IF the other side is also summoning and binding dragons, we better don't because then we have controlled dragons fighting controlled dragons. But since the other side is invading with 4 kingdoms worth of military and seems to be winning, desperate summonings aren't likely to be started by them.
Solarstream
It's all in the cards
- Location
- Zombie World
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] A night's sleep. Zalan can't be sure what the right course of action even is. Let's camp in the atelier for now, much as he craves a bed.
I'd say we have no good plan yet. And we should consider it really hard once Zalan has had enough rest to think clearly, trying the summoning without having a good idea how to avoid slavery magic feels very un-Zalan-y, imho.
If we stop them from binding, we might have observed enough (what did he do, what spellbooks did he read to get the proper ritual, where did he get his supplies from...) to be able to do the ritual without them.
Yup, lack of vaccine assurance on the other dragons is the biggest issue, the villagers opinion is the next biggest.
As long as we can avoid binding, shouldn't be too hard to convince the logical part of the other dragons:
It is this, or being stuck in Tantara, with Fulcrum not knowing to summon them from there, with the danger of whatever lives there finding them, with the danger of being summoned by actively malicous mages.
IF the other side is summoning and binding, it might be an absolute must to summon, if at all possible without binding.
Desperate summons arent likely to be started by them. Sure.
But what if they have summoners as part of their army and a regular summon leads to a Dragon appearing instead, what would happen?
If the foxkins aren't lying, the enemy sound more like the power-hungry-warlord kind of army rather than just-defending-my-home kind. And wouldn't a power hungry warlod want to summon and bind as many dragons as possible?
- To avoid the danger of the dragons falling into enemy hands
- To get your hands on as many living trophies of power as possible (considering how fearsome dragons seem to be considered if you look at the last update)
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
"Good argument, but a controlled dragon like you on our side sounds still better."
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But all of that is a big 'if' - if he can summon more dragons (getting us could have been a fluke), the foxking wanting to summon further dragons, ...
Yup, big if on the succeed on dragon summoning. On the want: Sounded like he wants to in last post.
Edaine getting his demon spider and binding it might help with fighting.
would lead to 2 options.
1. make up something why it would be dangerous. like:
"I'm a scholar, the others are soldiers, they have a protection against binding, you'd need to be an expert summoner like Helvelor has to overcome it, or the binding will fail. And then you are at the mercy of a dragon you just tried to enslave"
or as mentioned before
Pretend that you have history about how binding multiple dragon level creatures makes the mind link unstable and dangerous to the summoner. Would still leave the Helvelor could summon dragons threat, as a dragon per summoner Helvelor has would still be a nightmare.
2. (which i strongly prefer) Call him out directly.
"Summoning me was an accident. Binding me was an error made in panic, close enough to an accident. Summoning them to enslave them would mean you are a monster"
He looks REALLY uncomfortable with the binding question already, hitting him with that directly could make him give in.
[X] An hour or two. If Zalan wants to try retrieving another dragon from the tantara before anyone else, they'd better get moving soon.
[X] Make it clear you want to rescue as many as possible of your people, but you won't allow more enslavement even as "just" a translation spell. Learn to speak the hard way!
[X] Ask about the summoning. Learn about the summoning spellcraft as much as possible. Perhaps you can help nail down the finer points if summoning your people. Dante's Gates! These people seem primitive enough that it might not be that terribly difficult to understand then perform yourself. At least not as long as it took your current educational level anyways! Or at a minimum, better program the spell work. So cheer up! You got this! You! Can! Do it!
[X] Make it clear you want to rescue as many as possible of your people, but you won't allow more enslavement even as "just" a translation spell. Learn to speak the hard way!
[X] Ask about the summoning. Learn about the summoning spellcraft as much as possible. Perhaps you can help nail down the finer points if summoning your people. Dante's Gates! These people seem primitive enough that it might not be that terribly difficult to understand then perform yourself. At least not as long as it took your current educational level anyways! Or at a minimum, better program the spell work. So cheer up! You got this! You! Can! Do it!
[X] An hour or two. If Zalan wants to try retrieving another dragon from the tantara before anyone else, they'd better get moving soon.
[X] Make it clear you want to rescue as many as possible of your people, but you won't allow more enslavement even as "just" a translation spell. Learn to speak the hard way!
[X] Ask about the summoning. Learn about the summoning spellcraft as much as possible. Perhaps you can help nail down the finer points if summoning your people. Dante's Gates! These people seem primitive enough that it might not be that terribly difficult to understand then perform yourself. At least not as long as it took your current educational level anyways! Or at a minimum, better program the spell work. So cheer up! You got this! You! Can! Do it!
[X] Make it clear you want to rescue as many as possible of your people, but you won't allow more enslavement even as "just" a translation spell. Learn to speak the hard way!
[X] Ask about the summoning. Learn about the summoning spellcraft as much as possible. Perhaps you can help nail down the finer points if summoning your people. Dante's Gates! These people seem primitive enough that it might not be that terribly difficult to understand then perform yourself. At least not as long as it took your current educational level anyways! Or at a minimum, better program the spell work. So cheer up! You got this! You! Can! Do it!
[X] An hour or two. If Zalan wants to try retrieving another dragon from the tantara before anyone else, they'd better get moving soon.
It might be wiser to try grabbing as many dragons as possible from the void between realities before something hostile gets to them first.
[X] And uh... about those bindings. How modifiable are they? If the foxes won't entertain the notion of summoning more dragons without binding them, might it not be desirable to try and negotiate a less restrictive binding like a geas against unprovoked violence and nothing more?
It might be wiser to try grabbing as many dragons as possible from the void between realities before something hostile gets to them first.
[X] And uh... about those bindings. How modifiable are they? If the foxes won't entertain the notion of summoning more dragons without binding them, might it not be desirable to try and negotiate a less restrictive binding like a geas against unprovoked violence and nothing more?
Will rushing really do any good? For all Zalan knows, he's been in stasis for a hundred years. The others could have been eaten by tantaran storm spiders, or something. It might be too late already– They might all be dead–!
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
... are you trying for a total breakdown/depressive period/suicide?
I Have Anxiety
but i can delete the comment if you think it will be taken as seriously as that
- Location
- Attached to a wall
- Pronouns
- She/Her
It is a possibility, but that possibility is squarely in the unknowable category.
We can't settle for inaction based on this assumption, because if this is false and we are wrong then we may have lost the opportunity forever.
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
No deletion necessary, but if Zalan would go with that mindset it wouldn't be good in this situation.
After all the s... that happened to him in the last few hours, last thing he needs now is a 'all is lost' mindset (even if it might be objectively true, it doesn't help if there's something left that can be helped).
- Location
- Norway
[X] An hour or two. If Zalan wants to try retrieving another dragon from the tantara before anyone else, they'd better get moving soon.
[X] Ask about the summoning. Learn about the summoning spellcraft as much as possible. Perhaps you can help nail down the finer points if summoning your people. Dante's Gates! These people seem primitive enough that it might not be that terribly difficult to understand then perform yourself. At least not as long as it took your current educational level anyways! Or at a minimum, better program the spell work. So cheer up! You got this! You! Can! Do it!
If we can aim the summoning more accurately at one of the defenders that were alive at the end, we can hopefully get what they need to give us blanket permission to work on summoning more dragons.
[X] Ask about the summoning. Learn about the summoning spellcraft as much as possible. Perhaps you can help nail down the finer points if summoning your people. Dante's Gates! These people seem primitive enough that it might not be that terribly difficult to understand then perform yourself. At least not as long as it took your current educational level anyways! Or at a minimum, better program the spell work. So cheer up! You got this! You! Can! Do it!
If we can aim the summoning more accurately at one of the defenders that were alive at the end, we can hopefully get what they need to give us blanket permission to work on summoning more dragons.
Timothy
Not actually the moon
It's extremely unlikely Zalan has been in the void for hundreds of years as the summoning was considered to risky due to a RECENT issue with the plains and void being all messed up - that issue is likely caused by the big experiment and hole in Zalan's original world.
Update 25
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- He/Him
"I need an hour," Zalan says sheepishly. "Two if we've got them. What time is it, anyway?"
"Afternoon," says Adia. "It's late summer, if that helps."
"I don't even know how long a day is," Zalan says. "...Or an hour, for that matter."
"Then why did- Okay, I'll just let you know," sighs Adia.
She looks over her shoulder to where Edaine's slumped against a tree.
Zalan's inclined to agree. This is a new problem, locally.
Theoretically, Zalan could have been sent on a very circuitous route between worlds and arrived recently, but there's no way that he alone cast a dark enough shadow across the tantara to frighten Edaine's master. There must be more arriving in a relatively short interval. Perhaps, a lot of dragons, arriving with a uniform delay? That's not very likely based on what he remembers. But that won't stop him from wondering.
Zalan stares far away and thinks.
If many years really have passed, with no home to return to and nothing left except for dragons caught in the worldgate event, then Tieran-Sha might be his only friend in the universe.
Should I have kissed him? he wonders.
I still might never see him again.
He closes his eyes and tries to calm his heart. He doesn't have long to rest...
...
Zalan wakes up back in his lair.
But, try as he might, he can't see it as real. The floor glowing with a Crown symbol is strange, but not beyond the arcology's capabilities. But they're much too low, beneath an alien sky he recognizes. It's as though the whole arcology had settled into the valley beside the atelier where he was just summoned.
Great, am I having the Node dream again? he thinks.
A doctor told him those could be a sign of internal imbalance. Too much focus on cultivating his Crown, not enough on a healthy, well-rounded, fivefold network. Possibly why his horns never grew in.
But this feels different from that. An unease beyond that of a dream. Even beyond an uncomfortable dream that's meant to warn him of something.
Supposedly, dragons are better at spotting illusions than most. An adaptation to prevent them from vanishing into fantasies of their own creation, so that they would never satisfy the way reality does. Or maybe that's just something dragons tell each other.
Presently, the flickering image of his display table draws his eye. The rings separate and form an image...
...It's a ground's eye view of a dragon overflying a village. That foxfolk, Edaine, stares up. Zalan can feel the dread in his, that is, Edaine's, stomach, and realizes the dragon is himself.
Those... aren't my wings, he thinks. His wings look nothing like that.
Do I use someone else's? The biometrics aren't easy to crack.
Unless... this isn't my dream.
Zalan isn't sure what to do with that.
- Location
- Attached to a wall
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[X] Maybe explore the dream in order to find out whose dream
I wonder wether the symbol on the floor is worth ignoring/ pointing out.
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I wonder wether the symbol on the floor is worth ignoring/ pointing out.
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Dybbukpossesed
Falling Somewhere
- Location
- California
Hot damn it's good to see this back!
[X] wait if you're seeing his dream is it possible he's seeing yours? Ponder this accidental breach of privacy while watching his dream.
[X] wait if you're seeing his dream is it possible he's seeing yours? Ponder this accidental breach of privacy while watching his dream.
- Location
- Seattle Metropolitain Area
We're back!
Climb in to that display table and see who that dragon is.
Climb in to that display table and see who that dragon is.
@Ralson
Welcome back!
Very welcome surprise to see an update.
-[X] The part of you that makes dreams being thrown off balance (or even more off balance) by the Binding Ritual (which did settle into crown node), combining our senses/memories/fantasy (the room) with that of Edaine (the display table). And Edaine doesn't know our wings, his fantasy would probably substitute what he imagines dragonwings to be like.
But very good to hear If it isn't like that. If it has been short enough that Edaine/his Master consider the worldgate event 'recent', then home is still around. All the dragons saved by the warnings are still around. Only having to get their bearings on what happened before they start the process of saving the worldgate displaced!
Welcome back!
Very welcome surprise to see an update.
[X] It could be an amalgation. Consider what it would tell us about Edaine if it was.
-[X] The part of you that makes dreams being thrown off balance (or even more off balance) by the Binding Ritual (which did settle into crown node), combining our senses/memories/fantasy (the room) with that of Edaine (the display table). And Edaine doesn't know our wings, his fantasy would probably substitute what he imagines dragonwings to be like.
Maybe he and the other worldgate dragons were in ... a bubble of sorts, being kept together with energy (?) from that event. Or the thing the Bahamuti faced. Or some other remnant of that event. 'Floating' together through Tantara, and disturbing Edaines Master now that they pass by close to his world.
But very good to hear If it isn't like that. If it has been short enough that Edaine/his Master consider the worldgate event 'recent', then home is still around. All the dragons saved by the warnings are still around. Only having to get their bearings on what happened before they start the process of saving the worldgate displaced!
