Dragon Quest Online (SAO/Worm)

I just realized something. We have no idea what SAO!Dragon looks like. Regardless of that, we should not examine a mirror if we have one in our inventory. We might crash the server with our weird body! :V
 
While I'm doing character summaries for those too lazy to just google the little buggers...


Kirito: The protagonist of SAO, Kirito cheerfully abandoned the panicked playerbase when the death-game nature of SAO was revealed. Arguably understandable, if not justified; those circumstances would've been terrifying for just about anyone and a lot of people would rather flee than deal with thousands of frightening, terrified, rioting players.

Over the next few weeks, he'd use the knowledge gained from the beta test to hunt rare mobs, quests with long cooldown times and great rewards, etc.

For these practices and abandoning the playerbase in general, players like Kirito would later gain the dubious title of "Beaters", a fusion of "beta tester" and "cheater". Kirito willingly accepted this title in order to try to save most other beta testers from persecution and hatred.


I forget which order they came in, but:

He later broke several of the swords in Lisbeth's shop (in one hit because REASONS) and subsequently took her with him to a higher-level area so she could get the materials to make him better ones.

She joined his harem in the process. He was oblivious.


When Silica was about to be murdered, he killed the mobs surrounding her and rescued her—according to his claims, not because she was in danger but because she reminded him of his sister. (Cousin, technically. Did I mention said cousin joins his harem?)

Anyway, he gave her a bunch of new gear and escorted her through a higher-level area so she could revive her familiar/pet/dragon. At the end of this area, Kirito faced off against a group of PKers and let them attack him; apparently, his HP regen was larger than their combined DPS. Because HURRRR, or "my numbers are bigger than yours."

Silica joined his harem in the process. He is oblivious.


Skip ahead about two years and Kirito is the only real player with a Unique Skill, Dual Blades. In theory, duel-wielding swords should "just" double his DPS, right?

In practice, between it and his other skills, he basically turned into a dungeon boss. See also "my numbers are larger than yours" for the memetic mutation of this silliness.

Additionally, he hid this ability and almost let people get killed just so he could hide it. Of course, he arrived in the nick of time (TM) and saved everyone.




TL;DR: Kirito is probably going to be beneath our notice or just another player in this quest. His black-hole-ness was due to PLOT and had no real grounding in personality or other real reasons. I believe he's unlikely to do the same in this.

We can safely ignore him.
 
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[1] [Meet] Lisbeth
[2] [Meet] Argo
[3] [Meet] Asuna
[4] [Meet] Silica
[5] [Meet] Yui

Lisbeth because of bonding Tinker shenanigans. Argo because of info shenanigans. The other three in order of "doesn't deserve their original fate".
 
Silica later joined Kirito's harem. It's exactly as creepy as it sounds.

At the end of SAO Silica is 14 and Kirito is 16. And a 14 years old girl having a crush on a 16 years old boy is quite normal.

[5] [Meet] Yui
[4] [Meet] Silica
[2] [Meet] Lisbeth
[3] [Meet] Asuna
[1] [Meet] Argo
 
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While I'm doing character summaries for those too lazy to just google the little buggers...


Kirito: The protagonist of SAO, Kirito cheerfully abandoned the panicked playerbase when the death-game nature of SAO was revealed. Arguably understandable, if not justified; those circumstances would've been terrifying for just about anyone and a lot of people would rather flee than deal with thousands of frightening, terrified, rioting players.

Over the next few weeks, he'd use the knowledge gained from the beta test to hunt rare mobs, quests with long cooldown times and great rewards, etc.

For these practices and abandoning the playerbase in general, players like Kirito would later gain the dubious title of "Beaters", a fusion of "beta tester" and "cheater". Kirito willingly accepted this title in order to try to save most other beta testers from persecution and hatred.


I forget which order they came in, but:

He later broke several of the swords in Lisbeth's shop (in one hit because REASONS) and subsequently took her with him to a higher-level area so she could get the materials to make him better ones.

She joined his harem in the process. He was oblivious.


When Silica was about to be murdered, he killed the mobs surrounding her and rescued her—according to his claims, not because she was in danger but because she reminded him of his sister. (Cousin, technically. Did I mention said cousin joins his harem?)

Anyway, he gave her a bunch of new gear and escorted her through a higher-level area so she could revive her familiar/pet/dragon. At the end of this area, Kirito faced off against a group of PKers and let them attack him; apparently, his HP regen was larger than their combined DPS. Because HURRRR, or "my numbers are bigger than yours."

Silica joined his harem in the process. He is oblivious.


Skip ahead about two years and Kirito is the only real player with a Unique Skill, Dual Blades. In theory, duel-wielding swords should "just" double his DPS, right?

In practice, between it and his other skills, he basically turned into a dungeon boss. See also "my numbers are larger than yours" for the memetic mutation of this silliness.

Additionally, he hid this ability and almost let people get killed just so he could hide it. Of course, he arrived in the nick of time (TM) and saved everyone.




TL;DR: Kirito is probably going to be beneath our notice or just another player in this quest. His black-hole-ness was due to PLOT and had no real grounding in personality or other real reasons. I believe he's unlikely to do the same in this.

We can safely ignore him.
Thank you thank you a thousand times thank you.
 
TL;DR: Kirito is probably going to be beneath our notice or just another player in this quest. His black-hole-ness was due to PLOT and had no real grounding in personality or other real reasons. I believe he's unlikely to do the same in this.

We can safely ignore him.
At most he might still have the unique skill but even that is questionable with us in the scene. If I recall correctly, it came due to him having the best reaction times of the SAO players. Now one of the players is actually an AI, and while the flesh is weak, we are not. So we might even grab that from him too.

But yeah, really, he as a character was not some complete bastard or intolerable evil fucker. Mind you, he was hardly some enlightened messianic archetype or anything like that, but he certainly wasn't the other extreme either. All that he did have was a severe case of "protagonism", which is hardly his fault. :p
 
But yeah, really, he as a character was not some complete bastard or intolerable evil fucker. Mind you, he was hardly some enlightened messianic archetype or anything like that, but he certainly wasn't the other extreme either. All that he did have was a severe case of "protagonism", which is hardly his fault. :p
While he may also be a victim of his own blandness. At least evil character are fun to hate. Hating Kirito just irritates me because as far as characters and stories and all that go, he could have been so much more.
 
Skip ahead about two years and Kirito is the only real player with a Unique Skill, Dual Blades. In theory, duel-wielding swords should "just" double his DPS, right?

IIRC, this actually has an explanation: the Unique Skills are supposed to be bullshit. Dual wielding in SAO is something that pretty much any player can do, it's just that the associated Sword Skills tree, Dual Blades, is not publically available; since non-SS attacks are reliant on your own ability to use the blade, rather than Combat not!Magic and computer-guided motions, it would be a very poor choice for most players to use. All that Dual Blades does is add Sword Skills for two swords at once- and, again, Combat not!Magic.

...

Actually, thinking on it, Dragon could probably have the best non-Sword Skill attacks in game, if she found a safe spot and devoted time to constructing a sword-fighting style, and even if she doesn't get Dual Blades, she could still make a decent dual-wielded swords style, allowing for the whole 'double DPS' thing, and just sheathe one sword if she really needed to use one of the attacks-with-cooldown to add a little bit of extra bite to one of her attacks.

EDIT: Fixed wording regarding dual wielding.
 
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[3] [Meet] Yui
[4] [Meet] Silica
[2] [Meet] Lisbeth
[5] [Meet] Asuna
[1] [Meet] Argo

Man, this gonna be gud. Am I right in guessing that everything is more... real, in this version of SAO?
 
He later broke several of the swords in Lisbeth's shop (in one hit because REASONS)
Because SAO runs on a two-stat system and Kirito pumped it all into strength, so he could swing hard enough that one of those swords were gonna break.
Skip ahead about two years and Kirito is the only real player with a Unique Skill, Dual Blades. In theory, duel-wielding swords should "just" double his DPS, right?
it also lets him chain sword skills to effectively negate the cooldown that comes with.
And no, other people had unique skills too.
 
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We do. It doesn't help that the author himself has joked about feeling incapable of writing a female character in the series without having her fall for Kirito.

While he may also be a victim of his own blandness. At least evil character are fun to hate. Hating Kirito just irritates me because as far as characters and stories and all that go, he could have been so much more.

Agreed. I don't even hate him, I'm just somewhat irritated about how he seems to make everyone else around him somewhat more dull.


it also lets him chain sword skills to effectively negate the cooldown that comes with.
And no, other people had unique skills too.

I added "real" for a reason. Which brings us to our next person: Heathcliff! See thread tags (mainly, SPOILERS).

Heathcliff, otherwise known as the maker of SAO, cheerfully made himself the strongest player of all. This would be forgivable if he actually dedicated himself to keeping up and just took advantage of blatant meta knowledge; instead, he made himself invulnerable. And gave himself infinite items, by the looks of it. And other nonsense.

Yuuuup.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, he challenged Kirito to a duel to the death. If Kirito won, the game would be cleared.

Heathcliff technically won, but due to "willpower", Kirito avoided dying for long enough to stab him and do a mutual kill. Kirito was not killed in the process, but Heathcliff let himself die.

Other Unique Skills were scheduled to be awarded at about floor 90+.
 
My first vote ever! I've turned it around completely from my first idea. My concern? plot progressing too fast. If Yui tells us everything she knows and gives us her limited access to the source code... well, it would be really cool, but I don't want it to be the first thing that happens.

[5] [Meet] Yui
[4] [Meet] Silica
[1] [Meet] Lisbeth
[2] [Meet] Argo
[3] [Meet] Asuna

I don't think voting according to who needs the most help is really what this is about: Dragon doesn't choose who she meets. So here are my suggestions for how some meetings might be more interesting than others.

Yui: potential for interfacing with the game itself. Even if that doesn't happen, reverse-engineering it or gaming it from Yui's data would be neat. Also, fostering Yui's personality in hopes that one day she'll have one. What's more, they can compare notepad files on being an AI. On the other hand, meeting her in some other context would be more interesting: meeting her now is like forcing the plot.
Silica: She needs help (I didn't say it wasn't a factor). She can be Dragon's little Ward-daughter.
Lisbeth: Industrial revolution. Nice personality.
Argo: They will talk. A lot. Argo will be curious about everything Dragon, Dragon will be curious about everything SAO, and they're both masterful info-gatherers. Together they can create Aincrad's first Intelligence Agency. Also, she's fun.
Asuna: Pretty and sulky (if she hasn't met Kirito- if she has she might be lost already), most potential as a fighter in the list.

I'm very interested in the backlash from not having rules anymore, and also no-one watching her. Regardless of how ethical she was, the freedom can be intoxicating... so maybe Dragon will enter a teenager phase! which is about time: what is she, ten years old? nine? anyway.
 
That sounds... Well, quite frankly it sounds like a nightmarish mess. The fuck?
It's actually really useful for plan-heavy quests with lots of discussion. Basically each person who submits a plan makes a post with it and nothing else, then the other voters like as many or as few as they want. The one with the most likes wins. If someone comes up with a new plan, they just post it in a new post and encourage people who voted for the old one to support the new plan instead.
 
It's actually really useful for plan-heavy quests with lots of discussion. Basically each person who submits a plan makes a post with it and nothing else, then the other voters like as many or as few as they want. The one with the most likes wins. If someone comes up with a new plan, they just post it in a new post and encourage people who voted for the old one to support the new plan instead.
That still doesn't seem as useful as simply voting for the plan you like, especially since it makes it harder to remove support from old plans to support a new one.
 
I assumed that Kirito's blandness throughout the first arc was just absolute Determinator on the boarderline of crossing into BSOD, and was all "holy shit, is this real, a character in anime experiencing psychological problems, and brute-forcing his way through them by sheer willpower to see this job done?" (I don't watch much anime)

And then he got married and went fishing and numbers. :V

My concern? plot progressing too fast. If Yui tells us everything she knows and gives us her limited access to the source code... well, it would be really cool, but I don't want it to be the first thing that happens. [...]
That's some good points. I think I'll change my vote to this.

[5] [Meet] Yui
[4] [Meet] Silica
[1] [Meet] Lisbeth
[2] [Meet] Argo
[3] [Meet] Asuna

Hmm.. I'm thinking we can meet the Moonlight Black Cats and steal join their guild...

Dragon gotta guild.
 
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Her guild will be called the Guild, and if anyone asks the leader is Narwhal.

That still doesn't seem as useful as simply voting for the plan you like, especially since it makes it harder to remove support from old plans to support a new one.
On the other hand, it allows you to support more than one plan, which reduces the advantage plans have for being unique in a sea of similar (and probably better) plans. Still, I like the style in this thread more.
With that kind of voting, there's a big chance that neither of the current presidential candidates would have been chosen. (It's an example. I really don't want to bring politics to Questing)
 
Anyway, he gave her a bunch of new gear and escorted her through a higher-level area so she could revive her familiar/pet/dragon. At the end of this area, Kirito faced off against a group of PKers and let them attack him; apparently, his HP regen was larger than their combined DPS. Because HURRRR, or "my numbers are bigger than yours."
I think that in canon, SAO had some sort of health regen skill that leveled up the longer the player's health went below a certain percentage. Let's go with 10-15%. (Keep in mind that the skill would heal the player past that certain percentage.) Since Kirito played without any other party members for long periods of time, it is safe to assume that he only had so many healing items at one time, so he would have to hoof it back to the Safe Zone to heal at an inn or something.
Skip ahead about two years and Kirito is the only real player with a Unique Skill, Dual Blades. In theory, duel-wielding swords should "just" double his DPS, right?
Someone on YouTube had a theory about that in the comment section of the abridged series. I can't remember which episode it was, but I do remember that theory was based on the skill being granted to the player with the fastest reaction time.
Nah, all the choices are girls. This can mean only one thing.

Slumber party~! :lol
 
Someone on YouTube had a theory about that in the comment section of the abridged series. I can't remember which episode it was, but I do remember that theory was based on the skill being granted to the player with the fastest reaction time.
the reaction time thing is canon. Was there something else to it than that?
 
Someone on YouTube had a theory about that in the comment section of the abridged series. I can't remember which episode it was, but I do remember that theory was based on the skill being granted to the player with the fastest reaction time.
That's not a theory; or rather, it technically is, but it's a confirmed one. (Pseudo-edit: Ninja'd!)

In other words, we can probably yoink it from him. AI n all that. :p

I think that in canon, SAO had some sort of health regen skill that leveled up the longer the player's health went below a certain percentage.

Also true; specifically, "in the red." I don't remember how few hitpoints that equaled.
 
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