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Devastation Comes In Big Packages [Planetary Annihilation/Multicross SI]

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Beyogi said:
Um... are these guys really that hardcore, or are they just trolling O'Neill?

The guy is a military officer and they're offended he's not going to switch out of his uniform on a mission? I really hope they're trolling, or I may actually sympathize with the Nox here. If that's their general diplomatic attitude I'm surprised the Empire isn't in a shooting war with the pacifists yet.
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Gotta agree with you. That entire part made them look incredibly petulant. I'm sure they have their reasons and everything, but it really doesn't excuse them. Yes, before anyone says anything, I did read Torroar's reasoning.

Also, I'm curious as to why the Sub Commanders don't have the unit restriction.
 
EasyCo said:
Gotta agree with you. That entire part made them look incredibly petulant. I'm sure they have their reasons and everything, but it really doesn't excuse them. Yes, before anyone says anything, I did read Torroar's reasoning.

Also, I'm curious as to why the Sub Commanders don't have the unit restriction.
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It's not supposed to excuse them.

The Empire of Wu isn't even close to perfect and I'm not going to portray them as such.

As for the Sub Commanders? Couple of reasons. ROB, Ori, Whimsy, take your pick.

If it truly breaks things for you, I can change it to them bouncing back to 50 Per Cap. They still know droid armies and navies like he learned.
 
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torroar said:
As for the Sub Commanders? Couple of reasons. ROB, Ori, Whimsy, take your pick.

If it truly breaks things for you, I can change it to them bouncing back to 50 Per Cap. They still know droid armies and navies like he learned.
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Personally? Given how... hands on, shall we say, your ROB has been, it makes perfect sense to me that it'd interpret the rules in a way that makes things more... interesting. Like, say, the accidentally created new opponent being a credible threat to you due in part to fewer limits.

And heck, maybe it's not "no unit cap", maybe it's "unit cap: five thousand or so".
 
Yup.

Hey Torroar, I need to ask, have you done research into the Stargate verse? Cause I'm trying to find some information on how stargates work, and I can't find the specific info I need. And what I want to know is, does a receiving gate display the address of the gate that is dialing in? Gate A dials a wormhole to Gate B, does Gate B display Gate A's address?

The wiki isn't helpful here, but I can'tr recall if there's any episode where they showed the gate lighting up when its receiving an incoming wormhole...

I'd figured I'd ask here, cause, ya know, fellow Stargate Commander, right? *nudge nudge* :D
 
Ovid said:
Yup.

Hey Torroar, I need to ask, have you done research into the Stargate verse? Cause I'm trying to find some information on how stargates work, and I can't find the specific info I need. And what I want to know is, does a receiving gate display the address of the gate that is dialing in? Gate A dials a wormhole to Gate B, does Gate B display Gate A's address?

The wiki isn't helpful here, but I can'tr recall if there's any episode where they showed the gate lighting up when its receiving an incoming wormhole...

I'd figured I'd ask here, cause, ya know, fellow Stargate Commander, right? *nudge nudge* :D
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I am pretty sure that it does. They have plenty of warning when the gate is being dialed in series and the ring does move from what I remember.
 
Ovid said:
The wiki isn't helpful here, but I can'tr recall if there's any episode where they showed the gate lighting up when its receiving an incoming wormhole...
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They don't know the address of an incoming wormhole. There is 10-20 seconds of warning with an incoming wormhole. Now, if you manage to get into the 'Gate's mechanics you could probably get the address of the incoming wormhole, but that's dependent on how fast your reverse-engineering is.
 
Terrabrand said:
God, I can't remember specific episodes, but that happens all the time, particularly at the SGC. Man, wish I could name an example for ya.
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Ryune said:
I am pretty sure that it does. They have plenty of warning when the gate is being dialed in series and the ring does move from what I remember.
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ltmauve said:
They don't know the address of an incoming wormhole. There is 10-20 seconds of warning with an incoming wormhole. Now, if you manage to get into the 'Gate's mechanics you could probably get the address of the incoming wormhole, but that's dependent on how fast your reverse-engineering is.
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Thank you for the assistance. I guess I'll just have to do some stellar cartography, or figure out what my stellar coordinates should be.

My main issue is that, my character is on a planet with a gate, but doesn't know the address of that gate, so is hesitant to send out any exploration parties via the gate network (because they won't be able to come back). I guess I can try to hack my way into the Stargate's operating system, though that might be tricky.
 
torroar said:
Well, The Network got basically the entire techbase of Star Wars. So that includes Kamino and Spaarti....
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Somehow I'm getting the Impression the reaction of your SI once he returns is going to be somewhere between "Oh God why" and "now I finally understand why the Inquisition loves Exterminatus" :D
 
Ovid said:
Yup.

Hey Torroar, I need to ask, have you done research into the Stargate verse? Cause I'm trying to find some information on how stargates work, and I can't find the specific info I need. And what I want to know is, does a receiving gate display the address of the gate that is dialing in? Gate A dials a wormhole to Gate B, does Gate B display Gate A's address?

The wiki isn't helpful here, but I can'tr recall if there's any episode where they showed the gate lighting up when its receiving an incoming wormhole...

I'd figured I'd ask here, cause, ya know, fellow Stargate Commander, right? *nudge nudge* :D
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Not Torroar but I'm pretty sure that the answer is yes. In the SGC when there's an incoming wormhole it's how they can tell where it's from if it's an address that they have. That said, it's a tv show so don't expect continuity.

As to figuring out the address of the planet @Ovid, correct me if I'm wrong you guys, but I believe the symbol at the 12 o'clock position on his gate should be the last symbol in the address, the origin point. (McKay screams in the background, that it makes no sense)
 
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Tazered said:
Not Torroar but I'm pretty sure that the answer is yes. In the SGC when there's an incoming wormhole it's how they can tell where it's from if it's an address that they have. That said, it's a tv show so don't expect continuity.
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No, they can't tell the incoming address. Where did you get that from? They give Cimmeria a box with a special isotope in it so when it smashes against the iris they can tell where it's from.
Tazered said:
As to figuring out the address of the planet @Ovid, correct me if I'm wrong you guys, but I believe the symbol at the 12 o'clock position on his gate should be the last symbol in the address, the origin point. (McKay screams in the background, that it makes no sense)
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Well, that's useful for dialing out. Not useful for dialing back, which is the problem. And I'm also not sure what happens if the gate has one of the standard glyphs as the point of origin.
 
ltmauve said:
No, they can't tell the incoming address. Where did you get that from? They give Cimmeria a box with a special isotope in it so when it smashes against the iris they can tell where it's from.
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nah that was to tell who it was from remember the first ep where the learn the gate address of Chulake from that soldier that was hurt and saw it

(that guy has amazing memory even hopped up on painkillers:rolleyes:)

really all you need to do in put the gate address in reverse to get the address of the people that tryed to gate to you

still that said stargate continuity is a little over they place better then some (a lot) show's but over the place and its been a while since iv seen it
 
If he has access to Asgard tech- which is a good bet, given how he seemed to have helped them, does this mean he also has the time dilation tech?

Because Resource cores, giant constructors, time dilation and unit limits just... screams disposable Death Stars.
 
The soldier saw the address when they dialed out not in. There has never been a way to tell who is dialing in except by any message that they send for example the Cimmerian box and later IDC codes they gave their teams and allies.

Point of origin symbols are supposed to be unique to each gate and might just be a way to indicate the end of the address. So those symbols don't appear on other gates.
 
I am liking the setting so far, but shouldn't a century or two have been enough time to build up enough of a droid fleet to hit every Goa'uld world at once?
 
Yes, It most likely would have been enough, if the Commander didn't utterly despise not having direct control of his own forces.

Even so, he probably should've gone for decapitation strikes. Y'know, offing Ra, Nirti, Cronus, Baal (wait, he's the one that got run-over by starship)
 
torroar said:
...I guess you missed the part where the Emperor inadvertently taught the Goa'uld the 'benefits' of Scorched Earth Tactics, then.
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Not at all, I just don't see how there would be time for "atrocities" if all planets are hit simultaneously with overwhelming force, arriving under (personal) cloaks, like a squad of assasin droids for each Jaffa, and a battleship for each death glider.

It didn't sound like the situation involved standing orders to detonate suicide nukes at the first sign of trouble - even without considering what SG-1 has seen. Did Ra's forces massacre all of his slaves after he was killed?
 
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