Deus Pater (Exalted/40k)
- Thread starter Maugan Ra
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TenfoldShields
Lounging on a Hoard of Words
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Well we have part of the Emperor inside us, through us I'm sure they'd enjoy part of the Emperor inside them as well.
More seriously Half Castes are a thing and when it comes out that our children are basically demi gods women are going to be lining up around the block for all sorts of reasons.
i'm gonna need you to tone the creep factor down by like
five or six notches
please
- Location
- Denmark
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I'd be pretty happy if we could just let people remain in peaceful (war-like) ascetism. 
lancelot
Completely worth it
The first part is a joke.
The second part if Half castes would be real the simple fact is having children that wouldn't be completely helpless in the face of the many enemies of humanity would lead to that situation. Beyond appearance, and pure charisma that isn't being creepy that is just how humanity is.
Ascetism is boring as shit in fiction.
- Location
- Denmark
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Ascetism is great. Characters who are finally fucking uninterested in sex would be cool. As an asexual and someone who is at least partially ascetic, I'd be happy with more of them. And furthermore, these are people who have dedicated their lives to ascetic marriage with the Emperor - the very cornerstone of their faith, and we build our entire religious legitimacy in like
not
being goge vandire and treating them like literal brides
so maybe
just maybe
we shouldnt do that lol
not
being goge vandire and treating them like literal brides
so maybe
just maybe
we shouldnt do that lol
I'm not sure you want to argue about all the good things eugenics would do in 40K, because the last time someone tried to do that ("I just need something like, twenty half-god kids and a few millions quarter-god kids to save the galaxy, and they'll rule it for me") it ended up causing the Horus Heresy and the actual state of the galaxy ("theocratic fascist dystopia") .
And also because eugenics is a terrible philosophy that's impossible to defend, and a narrative that would try to justify it would be better posted on a forum like Stormfront, I guess ? Especially when you nearly begin to suggest that women would just love to offer their uterus to those strong uber-men born from a stronger uberest man.
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- Denmark
- Pronouns
- She/Her
@Crilltic told me i was wrong here and i want to correct myself because i misremembered
they were the daughters of the emperor before and only became the brides of the emperor to spite him
so get fucked vandire
or rather
don't lol
- Location
- Massholistan
You're still wrong. They were initially the Daughters of the Emperor, then they became the Brides of the Emperor when he tricked them into thinking he was a Chosen of the Emperor and the once the actual Emperor told them something and they cut him down in a rage they turned back into the Daughters of the Emperor.
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- Denmark
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- She/Her
lancelot
Completely worth it
This is a fictional setting and these are fictional ideas, but let me make this clear. If you're implying that I'm a Neonazi or some shit like that go fuck yourself. If your not, don't be stupid enough to imply I should be posting on fucking stormfront.
Also what the Imperium became is pretty much the exact opposite of what the Emperor was aiming for. Considering families in 40k are often happy for their children to be accepted by a Space Marine chapter, was a child with someone that they know would give the child Emperor blessed powers that would help them survive the many threats of the 40k universe it's not much of a fucking stretch.
But you see obviously what you don't seem to get is that the societal norms, and dangers of the 40k universe don't apply to the real fucking world!
Don't bother replying back I'm not going to involve myself in such a stupid fucking argument, and I won't see it anyways.
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- Location
- Massholistan
The other issue is going up to the Sororitas and going "Hey I'm a Chosen of the Emperor carry my babies" is not going to make the Sororitas like you. It's going to make them try and utterly destroy you to prevent another Vandire from arising.
- Location
- Austria
I mean.
I know 40k quests can raise problematic themes sometimes.
But I expected it to be from other direction.
More ace representation is great.
Though I do want to point out that in one of Cain novels there was a Sister (not specifically from battle order though, she was part of hospital-something IIRC?) who did not at all mind having sex. Well, in moderation and with a cute twink. Still, point is...Sororitas are different depending on sources and I think I like more, well, diverse and humanized portrayal more.
I mean, this is not me arguing against SoB as ascetic monks. Any portrayal is fine.
I know 40k quests can raise problematic themes sometimes.
But I expected it to be from other direction.
More ace representation is great.
Though I do want to point out that in one of Cain novels there was a Sister (not specifically from battle order though, she was part of hospital-something IIRC?) who did not at all mind having sex. Well, in moderation and with a cute twink. Still, point is...Sororitas are different depending on sources and I think I like more, well, diverse and humanized portrayal more.
I mean, this is not me arguing against SoB as ascetic monks. Any portrayal is fine.
lancelot
Completely worth it
It's a interesting idea that I'm not particularly wedded to, and at no point did I suggest he should do something that stupid. All I'm saying is that if not now then soon the MC is going to very much be the majority Sororitas wet dream. Not all of them, and the vast majority likely wouldn't act on that attraction, but just on the numbers game some will. Also the MC is obviously not a ascetic giving his introduction.
TenfoldShields
Lounging on a Hoard of Words
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- He/Him
but yeah hey could you not talk about how the mc should be getting his dick wet with the warrior nuns
it's sorta uncomfortable for uh
everyone
thanks
- Location
- Austria
Why is it even an interesting idea to you though?
No, you see, a typical mistake; You are not being misunderstood, you are just making people uncomfortable.
The right exit out of an awkward situation when you accidentally make yourself look a creep is not making excuses and justifications, but just, straight up not talking about it anymore when requested. Even an apology isn't really strictly necessary, because everyone involved would be entirely happy to pretend the incident never happened.
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- Massholistan
I mean given how explicitly they're coded as both nuns and monastic knightly orders (I mean one of their Orders are straight up called the Hospitalers) it's really no surprise their general portrayal is one of ascetic monks.
You know here's a thought, maybe it's possible that the organization that (depending on the source) has either a nigh-perfect or literally perfect record on resisting Chaos temptation may just be able to keep it in their pants.
lancelot
Completely worth it
Your right if they want to, and as seen in the novels they don't always want to. In the end how the Sisters act is up to Ra however he wants to run them is fine.
It's an interesting idea because it complicates things without the normal method of complicating things in 40k which is mass murder/planetary genocide/lots o killy.
- Location
- United states of america
Wow I didn't think the sororitas joke would spiral into this.
Slaanesh awaits
- Location
- Denmark
- Pronouns
- She/Her
when maugan ra gazes in the direction of this quest again, he will weep and turn his eyes as the emperor did horus before he made himself destroy the man he had once loved as his child
- Location
- Classified
Let's just pretend this page doesn't exist.
On topic, what do people feel like we should aim for buildwise? Integrity Protecting Prana is all but mandatory, we're going to have Chaos on our dick, this is the "Don't get Chaos Spawned" button, though it should be noted that it only protects against environmental exposure, not direct attack. The Sun King Radiance tree is very on theme longer term. Going down it, we can inspire witnesses to our social successes with whom our actions resonate to both respect us and do better in their own lives, give sermons that count as food and water for listeners, broadcast the nature and intensity of our most important principles, and even learn the charms of spirits whose nature resonates with our principles. More short term, however, a social primary character like us should be aiming for the defensive social charms Integrity has to offer.
Lore Charms are rather strange. There's the academic abilities you'd expect, but there's also a ton of powers about manipulating motes, Willpower and the Wyld, which translates to the Warp in this setting. The mote manipulation charms are useless under these rules, but there's still plenty of stuff to work with. Wyld-Dispelling Prana lets us protect a person or object that's being twisted by the warp for a few rounds, while the incredibly appropriately named Chaos-Repelling Pattern generates a field a few feet out that protects everything within it from Warp exposure and forces the environment to behave normally, so no lava floors or falling into the sky. Like Integrity Protecting Prana, this only blocks environmental warp exposure, not active attacks. Compared to IPP, this charm can protect others, but IPP has half the cost (which doesn't matter) and can be activated at any time, even while unconscious. There's the classic Order-Affirming Blow, which lets you punch the magic-induced mutation and madness out of people and things, and the peak of Lore warp fuckery, Wyld-Shaping Technique, which Maugan referenced earlier. This is the charm that lets us take back Daemon Worlds. This charm has two whole pages dedicated to explaining its rules, so suffice it to say that we want this if we ever get to E3.
This is enough of a wall of text for one post. I'll pick this up some other time.
On topic, what do people feel like we should aim for buildwise? Integrity Protecting Prana is all but mandatory, we're going to have Chaos on our dick, this is the "Don't get Chaos Spawned" button, though it should be noted that it only protects against environmental exposure, not direct attack. The Sun King Radiance tree is very on theme longer term. Going down it, we can inspire witnesses to our social successes with whom our actions resonate to both respect us and do better in their own lives, give sermons that count as food and water for listeners, broadcast the nature and intensity of our most important principles, and even learn the charms of spirits whose nature resonates with our principles. More short term, however, a social primary character like us should be aiming for the defensive social charms Integrity has to offer.
Lore Charms are rather strange. There's the academic abilities you'd expect, but there's also a ton of powers about manipulating motes, Willpower and the Wyld, which translates to the Warp in this setting. The mote manipulation charms are useless under these rules, but there's still plenty of stuff to work with. Wyld-Dispelling Prana lets us protect a person or object that's being twisted by the warp for a few rounds, while the incredibly appropriately named Chaos-Repelling Pattern generates a field a few feet out that protects everything within it from Warp exposure and forces the environment to behave normally, so no lava floors or falling into the sky. Like Integrity Protecting Prana, this only blocks environmental warp exposure, not active attacks. Compared to IPP, this charm can protect others, but IPP has half the cost (which doesn't matter) and can be activated at any time, even while unconscious. There's the classic Order-Affirming Blow, which lets you punch the magic-induced mutation and madness out of people and things, and the peak of Lore warp fuckery, Wyld-Shaping Technique, which Maugan referenced earlier. This is the charm that lets us take back Daemon Worlds. This charm has two whole pages dedicated to explaining its rules, so suffice it to say that we want this if we ever get to E3.
This is enough of a wall of text for one post. I'll pick this up some other time.
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- Location
- London, England
*surveys his Quest*
So... how about them charms, then?
So... how about them charms, then?
- Location
- Classified
I've been meaning to ask, why Brawl over Melee? Granted, Ignatius has never used his chainsword in a real fight, but he seems like he has even less fistfight experience.
- Location
- London, England
Ignatius practices unarmed combat techniques as an exercise routine more than a fighting style; he finds it relaxing and it helps him keep reasonably in shape, but you're correct in assuming he's never actually fought someone seriously outside the practice hall. It's why he has all of two dots and a single charm.
That's the justification. The reason is that Solar Brawl is hilarious and I want to write scenes involving it.
(Also you naturally favour Martial Arts as an extension of having Brawl as a favoured ability, so learning the combat techniques of other warriors is a thing you could do.)