Grom is gonna bleed his horde on the Harpy, Quilboar and Centaur factions, this is good for us as it will mean more dead orcs and trolls, and we might ally with some of those factions
Grom is a veteran of like 5 wars, a successful warleader, managing to escape captivity and the Internment Camps, and generally a solid leader. He's bellicose, he has certain political views, but he's not an idiot. We must assume that he's also adept at organisation and the general business of warfare given his prominant position in the Old Horde. He might, for example, recognise the value of the other races as allies, the Barrens are massive after all and the Orcs don't necessarily compete with, for example the Harpies, so there'd be less reason for war.
Let's use our Shamans and Druids to ally with the Tauren before the Orcs can! We can kill centaurs and whatever, to make friends with the big niceboys from Mulgore.
We don't have any? While it will depend what
@Mannerheim wants to say about it, we have 1 Tidesage, a peculiar local tradition to Kul Tiras which doesn't really fit into any magical tradition, but perhaps is closest to Shamanism, and we presumably have Wildhammer dwarves, which do practice their own forms of Shamanism, but it's not like we have a whole corps of such people, again it would probably only be a couple, if any. Generally speaking at this point in the timeline the various culturally specific organisations like the Drustvar 'druids' (theyre not druids), would be at home. The Gilneans have a cultural profession of harvest wizards, but they're going to be at home, yknow where the harvests are. It's later in the timeline that you get the development of the professions in a more academic sense, where people start sharing their ideas and so on.
What we would have on the other hand is plenty of priests, paladins and mages, so that's good. There's also the point to be addressed that in-character, as a mage of Dalaran, who's boyfriend was a paladin, Jaina isn't really going to be thinking about shamanism as a thing to use. She would consider it, indeed most of the people on the Expedition would consider it to be this weird folksy cultural practice which isn't applicable outside minor things. I don't think we should be allowed to just use OOC stuff otherwise I'd just say 'hey take a boat around Kalimdor to see the elves', which of course IC we don't know exist yet.
Oh, and just realised, the tradition of magic that Jaina practices, eg when she summons and binds water elementals, is actively hostile to traditional shamanism. I doubt the Wildhammer care much what we do elsewhere, they probably onl care about the elementals at home, but maybe the Tauren would care. Depends really
I really have so much trouble in trying to figure out what to do with the Horde in the short and long term, or how to even talk with them. And what steps to combat them when it comes down to it.
It's not too difficult, I'll probably make a post of options at some point when we have more information. It depends a lot on the organision of Grom's Horde, who's in and who's out, and how they establish themselves.
Yet it is an unfortunate truth that the orcs -when not purified or helped by shamanism and other natural magics- are being constantly bombarded by green-tinted magical rage steroids, courtesy of the demonic ichor running through their veins.
Their are plenty of Orks uncrorrupted Orks on their homeworld. All of these Orks are demon tainted, and have reworked their entire culture to serve the demons.
These are both innacturate. To begin, the blood curse is fading in the orcs, they've had 20 years to get over it, the 'spiritual malady' that Antonidas refers to has decreased as they've weaned themselves off the power high of demon blood. Some of them still feel it at this time, they can sense demon stuff for example, but for the most part they're fine. However, this doesn't mean the Old Horde, the 'uncorrupted' Orcs, weren't evil unrepentant genociders. They didn't massively rework their culture, it's more of a fairly natural progression (encouraged by Kil'jaeden) from a tribal society to a more centralised one under a Warchief. Blackhand does a lot of it himself, largely without anyone having to tell him stuff, he centralises and specialises the clans for example. It's not like there's a switch to flip which turns the orcs from peaceful nature dudes to bloodmad conquerers, they've always had an expansionist, violent culture and they were heading in the direction they went anyway.
