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Cowboy Bebop at his computer remake, now with live action Husky

JBO said:
I know this is probably just my inner pedantic talking, but I am really irritated/worried by Spike being described as the "leader" of the crew. They are a dysfunctional family with Jet as the angry dad, not a western style "badass" anti heroes that follow the young marketable male leader character. :/
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I was just about to complain about that myself. It's Jet's ship, not Spike's!

Hopefully that's just ignorance on the part of whoever wrote the article.
 
Kokurokoki said:
Yeah... how could anyone working on this series not know that? Jet outright says this multiple times throughout the anime.
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You wouldn't think that somebody could make a live-action adaptation of an anime series without having at least watched the anime series and having some understanding of it, but the leaked info on the (thankfully never made) live-action Noir adaptation for Starz would indicate that this was not the case.
 
The Narrator said:
You wouldn't think that somebody could make a live-action adaptation of an anime series without having at least watched the anime series and having some understanding of it, but the leaked info on the (thankfully never made) live-action Noir adaptation for Starz would indicate that this was not the case.
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I am afraid to ask but... what was the noir adaptation supposed to be about?
 
Kokurokoki said:
I am afraid to ask but... what was the noir adaptation supposed to be about?
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  • Setting changed from contemporary to the 1960s for no apparent reason except that Mad Men was big at the time.
  • Conspiracy behind everything changed from European secret society that schismed from the Catholic church during the papal succession crisis in the 11th century and has influence throughout government, business and organized crime to Algerian terrorists, because... racism, I guess?
  • Protagonist with strong yuri subtext now has love triangle with two dudes who did not exist in original, including "nice guy" and "bad boy."
  • The mastermind behind the whole thing and her dragon apparently deleted from the plot and replaced with dudes.
  • Female co-protagonist demoted to very end of cast listing, barely an afterthought.
That's the short list. There are other things, but to explain why they're totally wrong, I'd basically have to explain the whole premise of the original.
 
The Narrator said:
  • Setting changed from contemporary to the 1960s for no apparent reason except that Mad Men was big at the time.
  • Conspiracy behind everything changed from European secret society that schismed from the Catholic church during the papal succession crisis in the 11th century and has influence throughout government, business and organized crime to Algerian terrorists, because... racism, I guess?
  • Protagonist with strong yuri subtext now has love triangle with two dudes who did not exist in original, including "nice guy" and "bad boy."
  • The mastermind behind the whole thing and her dragon apparently deleted from the plot and replaced with dudes.
  • Female co-protagonist demoted to very end of cast listing, barely an afterthought.
That's the short list. There are other things, but to explain why they're totally wrong, I'd basically have to explain the whole premise of the original.
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Sometimes execs need to get bullied for these things.
 
So apparently, they cast a husky to fill the role of Ein.

Article:
But John wont be alone on screen, as Netflix has just announced a film and TV newcomer will appear alongside him.

Bella, the 2 year old Siberian husky, will round off the predominately human–and entirely motley–crew of bountyhunters as the "datadog" Ein.

Sources say that Netflix has decided to make an "Artistic choice" in casting Bella, citing her "intense and intelligent screen presence, befitting a gentically engineered 'datadog'" as their rationale.
 
serra2 said:
So apparently, they cast a husky to fill the role of Ein.

Article:
But John wont be alone on screen, as Netflix has just announced a film and TV newcomer will appear alongside him.

Bella, the 2 year old Siberian husky, will round off the predominately human–and entirely motley–crew of bountyhunters as the "datadog" Ein.

Sources say that Netflix has decided to make an "Artistic choice" in casting Bella, citing her "intense and intelligent screen presence, befitting a gentically engineered 'datadog'" as their rationale.
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Also people liked the Direwolves and GOT isn't going to be around to call foul.
 
Honestly, Corgis are spirited but still pretty dumpy for a set dog. Huskies can just do more stuff on set (like jump up on things higher than a coffee table) so it makes sense that they'd change the breed.

And you want a really well trained dog who's going to follow instructions, and trying to get a stage dog with this very specific breed is a little much.
 
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Reveen said:
Honestly, Corgis are spirited but still pretty dumpy for a set dog. Huskies can just do more stuff on set (like jump up on things higher than a coffee table) so it makes sense that they'd change the breed.

And you want a really well trained dog who's going to follow instructions, and trying to get a stage dog with this very specific breed is a little much.
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Plus Huskys are well known for their rampant shrooms consumption.
 
I can't believe it took me this long to realize this is about the Cowboy Bebop live action adaptation and not something else.

@Tasrill, can you update the thread title?
 
serra2 said:
So apparently, they cast a husky to fill the role of Ein.

Article:
But John wont be alone on screen, as Netflix has just announced a film and TV newcomer will appear alongside him.

Bella, the 2 year old Siberian husky, will round off the predominately human–and entirely motley–crew of bountyhunters as the "datadog" Ein.

Sources say that Netflix has decided to make an "Artistic choice" in casting Bella, citing her "intense and intelligent screen presence, befitting a gentically engineered 'datadog'" as their rationale.
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I've heard some people cast doubt on the veracity of this.

Reveen said:
Honestly, Corgis are spirited but still pretty dumpy for a set dog. Huskies can just do more stuff on set (like jump up on things higher than a coffee table) so it makes sense that they'd change the breed.

And you want a really well trained dog who's going to follow instructions, and trying to get a stage dog with this very specific breed is a little much.
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Note also that, if the story is accurate, the dog cast does look pretty Ein-like.
 
I honestly don't care if they change the song breed. Finding a dog that's a good actor is hard enough as is.


Also hot take: I hope they do an adaption and not a retelling. If things aren't changed to reflect the new medium and culture than what's even the point. Its not like the old bebop is gone so if I want to watch the same thing over again I can just watch that
 
I think what will make or break this show is the music. I've heard from a few reviewers on how the music itself is a character and the show is almost dull or average without it. Having owned the DVDs and watched them multiple times, I am inclined to agree. In hollywood there is this trend where directors want the music to be as unintrusive as possible, leading to very subtle and uncompelling musical tracks that are barely recognizable. I'm worried that the adaptation will suffer the same fate and from what I'm seeing so far this might be the case. I can remember almost every song from the anime just from watching the anime alone, if that's a measure of how memorable the soundtrack is as well as Kanno's passion for the artform which is more than I can say for a lot of hollywood movies these days.

I don't mean to jump to conclusions, but if we don't have a great composer then this series will flop. There was more to bebop than just the characters and the setting, the music was literally half the show's charm. That said, Netflix has worked with Japanese studios in the past, so I can't see why they couldn't call up Yoko Kanno and have her get The Seatbelts back together to make another soundtrack for the live action adaptation.
 
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Kokurokoki said:
I think what will make or break this show is the music. I've heard from a few reviewers on how the music itself is a character and the show is almost dull or average without it. Having owned the DVDs and watched them multiple times, I am inclined to agree. In hollywood there is this trend where directors want the music to be as unintrusive as possible, leading to very subtle and uncompelling musical tracks that are barely recognizable. I'm worried that the adaptation will suffer the same fate and from what I'm seeing so far this might be the case. I can remember almost every song from the anime just from watching the anime alone, if that's a measure of how memorable the soundtrack is as well as Kanno's passion for the artform which is more than I can say for a lot of hollywood movies these days.

I don't mean to jump to conclusions, but if we don't have a great composer then this series will flop. There was more to bebop than just the characters and the setting, the music was literally half the show's charm. That said, Netflix has worked with Japanese studios in the past, so I can't see why they couldn't call up Yoko Kanno and have her get The Seatbelts back together to make another soundtrack for the live action adaptation.
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If they can't call up Kanno and the Seatbelts, I'd personally vote for Michael Giaccino. He does *amazing* work at creating easily recognizable music, particularly with the Star Trek movies.
 
I mean they should have the rights to the existing soundtrack, just use the songs from the old show.
 
VolantRedX said:
I mean they should have the rights to the existing soundtrack, just use the songs from the old show.
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It's not all that simple. Many of the tracks if I remember are composed to a specific scene in the anime. They are not reused all that often if at all. For example, Green Bird is literally used once in the entire show just for that scene where Spike is thrown out the church window. Reusing the soundtrack might not have the same impact that it does in the anime unless it's being played for nostalgia.

I think some areas where it might work is the harmonica track that plays when Spike is training in the Bebop in the dark while Jet cooks bell peppers and beef since that could be easily replicated in the live action. I don't know if the director is familiar enough to make it work consistently especially if it is across mediums and cultural philosophies regarding the approaches to constructing scenes in those mediums.
 
The Narrator said:
Yeah, they looked at a show that's whole myth arc was about the relationship between two women and went, "needs more dudes."

I don't often call an adaptation "____ IN NAME ONLY" but I strongly suspect that they took some existing pitch for a 1960s spy drama, changed a couple of names, and called it a day.
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I've never understood this seeing as it's not like Noir had enough of a western following to make the name recognition worth it.

Reveen said:
Honestly, Corgis are spirited but still pretty dumpy for a set dog. Huskies can just do more stuff on set (like jump up on things higher than a coffee table) so it makes sense that they'd change the breed.

And you want a really well trained dog who's going to follow instructions, and trying to get a stage dog with this very specific breed is a little much.
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On the one hand I kind of get it. On the other hand I always felt the fact that Ein was a dumpy and unassuming doggo was sort of the point.

Like, part of the cool of Cowboy Bebop is in how it's characters are kind of uncool on the surface.

Jet's a washed up cop whose already badly balding in his thirties. Spikes kind of an enormous dork in a shabby suit. Fae gets in over her head about as often she pulls things off perfectly . . .

Sure, they're all deeper than that, and all have enormous amount of cool in action. But it's beyond the surface details. A Husky, I feel, kind of detracts from that. Ein works because, like the rest of the crew, he's immediately unassuming.

A Husky comes with an automatic amount of coolness cred.
 
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