Cosmic Competition in the CCCP! [Soviet Union Space Program CK2 Design Quest]
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The results for that will be in the next Rumor Mill (three updates from now).
Can they take a vacation to East Berlin to see the Berlin wall? Just for the fun of it.
Addemup
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As long as it's in the Eastern bloc, you'll have a decent chance of being able to go there.
[X][Dimitrivich - Future] Wait until he is older, then decide
[X][Potential Reprieve] Take a vacation to East Berlin in the summer
The QM said it could be done and I don't think there is much to be done in the Caucasus other than skiing, which might be bad for baby. Idk, I don't have a child.
[X][Potential Reprieve] Take a vacation to East Berlin in the summer
The QM said it could be done and I don't think there is much to be done in the Caucasus other than skiing, which might be bad for baby. Idk, I don't have a child.
Vote closed
9: Turn 5 (Q1 1971) [Lunokhod 2, Pt 3]
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A/N 06-02-24: Apparently I called the probe Lunokhod 3 when it's supposed to be the Lunokhod 2. I don't know how I was able to miss that for two entire days. Whoops.
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Turn 5 (Faraday 25 - Jung 2, 2 AT)
Work continues on the design for the Lunokhod 3. At this point it is mostly finalized; the main objective of the discussions in the committee room which lasted for the first three months of 1971 is to determine where the prototype will be built. The usual suspects find their way out of the men's lips: Tekhnomash, Lavochkin, and Energomash, to name a few. Well, it was almost certain that any others would be ruled out sooner or later, but that's neither here nor there.
Tekhnomash is the choice supported by the plurality of committee members, including Comrade Sytsevich and his allies. From what you all have heard, their prototype for the Soyuz 7K-OKS was finished in late January (late Galilei), and all testing has gone quite smoothly. Of course, given the fact that this design is intended for a Lunar mission and not one in Earth's orbit, their price requests are a bit higher than they were last.
Energomash is another possibility, but not one you are particularly fond of. You haven't heard much in regards to the prototypes they put out, but what you have heard has been enough for you to decide against it. Still, there is a considerable amount of support for outsourcing to them within the committee, and it might be a good idea to at least consider their collective reasoning.
Lavochkin is the second most popular option within the committee. It would still be quick, the price has gone down in a bit, and from what you've heard the rocket parts they produce have impeccable quality. How bad could it be?
Finally, there is the most daring, yet least expensive option: the Poleski Bureau could manufacture the Lunokhod prototype in their own factory, something that has been made somewhat more viable in the months since the development of the 7K-OKS. Still a bit risky, but so are the others, right?
[] [Lunokhod 3 - Prototype Manufacturing] Tekhnomash Design Bureau (general rocket parts) (Stewardship???)
[] [Lunokhod 3 - Prototype Manufacturing] Energomash Design Bureau (rocket engines only) (Stewardship+3)
[] [Lunokhod 3 - Prototype Manufacturing] Lavochkin Design Bureau (general rocket parts) (Stewardship???)
[] [Lunokhod 3 - Prototype Manufacturing] Manufacture in-house (Stewardship+2)
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Another event of note occurred over the course of February (Hippocrates). A string of workplace accidents incapacitated almost a dozen different men at the Poleski Design Bureau's sole factory in Gorky. A thorough reevaluation of the factory's adherence to safety standards is pretty much a given - the real question is whether you will petition the Politburo for an allocation of additional workers. Hopefully such a request won't be seen as yet another attempt at lobbying in their eyes.
[] [Labor Shortage] Requisition more workers (Stewardship+1, -1 Wealth, chance for +1 Labor)
[] [Labor Shortage] Leave things be (-1 Labor)
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A/N: Nobody wrote in a name for our protagonist's son, so I just chose one myself. A new update will be posted on Sunday.
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Turn 5 (Faraday 25 - Jung 2, 2 AT)
Work continues on the design for the Lunokhod 3. At this point it is mostly finalized; the main objective of the discussions in the committee room which lasted for the first three months of 1971 is to determine where the prototype will be built. The usual suspects find their way out of the men's lips: Tekhnomash, Lavochkin, and Energomash, to name a few. Well, it was almost certain that any others would be ruled out sooner or later, but that's neither here nor there.
Tekhnomash is the choice supported by the plurality of committee members, including Comrade Sytsevich and his allies. From what you all have heard, their prototype for the Soyuz 7K-OKS was finished in late January (late Galilei), and all testing has gone quite smoothly. Of course, given the fact that this design is intended for a Lunar mission and not one in Earth's orbit, their price requests are a bit higher than they were last.
Energomash is another possibility, but not one you are particularly fond of. You haven't heard much in regards to the prototypes they put out, but what you have heard has been enough for you to decide against it. Still, there is a considerable amount of support for outsourcing to them within the committee, and it might be a good idea to at least consider their collective reasoning.
Lavochkin is the second most popular option within the committee. It would still be quick, the price has gone down in a bit, and from what you've heard the rocket parts they produce have impeccable quality. How bad could it be?
Finally, there is the most daring, yet least expensive option: the Poleski Bureau could manufacture the Lunokhod prototype in their own factory, something that has been made somewhat more viable in the months since the development of the 7K-OKS. Still a bit risky, but so are the others, right?
[] [Lunokhod 3 - Prototype Manufacturing] Tekhnomash Design Bureau (general rocket parts) (Stewardship???)
[] [Lunokhod 3 - Prototype Manufacturing] Energomash Design Bureau (rocket engines only) (Stewardship+3)
[] [Lunokhod 3 - Prototype Manufacturing] Lavochkin Design Bureau (general rocket parts) (Stewardship???)
[] [Lunokhod 3 - Prototype Manufacturing] Manufacture in-house (Stewardship+2)
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Another event of note occurred over the course of February (Hippocrates). A string of workplace accidents incapacitated almost a dozen different men at the Poleski Design Bureau's sole factory in Gorky. A thorough reevaluation of the factory's adherence to safety standards is pretty much a given - the real question is whether you will petition the Politburo for an allocation of additional workers. Hopefully such a request won't be seen as yet another attempt at lobbying in their eyes.
[] [Labor Shortage] Requisition more workers (Stewardship+1, -1 Wealth, chance for +1 Labor)
[] [Labor Shortage] Leave things be (-1 Labor)
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A/N: Nobody wrote in a name for our protagonist's son, so I just chose one myself. A new update will be posted on Sunday.
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[X] [Lunokhod 3 - Prototype Manufacturing] Lavochkin Design Bureau (general rocket parts) (Stewardship???)
[X] [Labor Shortage] Requisition more workers (Stewardship+1, -1 Wealth, chance for +1 Labor)
[X] [Labor Shortage] Requisition more workers (Stewardship+1, -1 Wealth, chance for +1 Labor)
Vote closed
10: Turn 6 (Q2 1971) [Soyuz 7K-T, Pt 1]
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Turn 6 (Jung 3 - Mendel 9, 2 AT)
While the Soyuz 10's launch in early April (early Jung) served its purpose in getting crew to the first Salyut space station[1], the crew of the Soyuz 11, which launched in mid-June (late Lavoisier), were not so fortunate. During the docking process the crew compartment was accidentally depressurized, killing all three on board. For the most part this great tragedy has gone unnoticed by the general public, but the upper staff of the Union's various aerospace OKBs have gotten an earful's worth due to the incident.
Nonetheless, the movers and shakers of the Soviet space program have continued putting their faith in the Poleski Design Bureau. They have entrusted you and your allies with crafting the blueprints for the Soyuz 7K-T, the replacement for the obviously flawed OKS. Typical of their collective generosity, the Politburo have given the central committee a full year to design the new Soyuz model, with initial development to commence immediately.
And what better aspect to begin with than the very thing which makes it move? The first design is, in essence, the exact same as the one used in the 7K-OKS. It's doubtful that the rocket itself was directly responsible for the Soyuz 11 disaster, so it might not hurt to leave it alone - but then again, maybe it would.
Edmons Vollis, a controversial rising star within OKB-621's Central Committee, has put forth a design for a new liquid rocket system for the upcoming Soyuz model. This design has a bit more efficiency in terms of delta-v output, but would cost at least 35 million extra rubles to manufacture. Considering its lack of competition, it might be worth your time to take a close look and examine its potential advantage.
[] [Soyuz 7K-T - Rocket Engine] Carry over the previous engine used by the 7K-OKS
[] [Soyuz 7K-T - Rocket Engine] Go with the new design proposed by Comrade Vollis
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The next topic of discussion regarding the new Soyuz model, and arguably the most important in respect to its surrounding circumstances, is the life support system. By the end of June, three competing plans for this complex set of mechanisms have been put forward by a number of different groups.
The first plan for a life support system was put forward not by anyone from within the Poleski Design Bureau, but from an investigatory committee established by the Politburo in the wake of the Soyuz 11 tragedy. Their suggestions are, admittedly, quite minimalist, but they do take some extra precautions in order to prevent accidental depressurization and mitigate its effects.
As per usual, Comrade Sytsevich and his allies in the Central Committee have their own ideas for keeping future cosmonauts safe. In addition to the precautions suggested by the outside committee, Sytsevich requests that any crew onboard Soyuz 7K-T craft wear their spacesuits as much as possible. There isn't much more beyond this, but it could prove crucial to the survival of the Soviet Union's brave pioneers.
Then there is the final plan, which is also the most radical. Combining the best of the previous two life support system revisions, it almost guarantees the survival of crew unless they or the ground crew do something particularly stupid. But this comes at a high cost: the projected expenses for this triple-redundant system are upwards of 100 million rubles per craft, and chances are the actual cost could be much higher.
[] [Soyuz 7K-T - Life Support System] Go with the bare minimum of revisions proposed by the non-OKB committee.
[] [Soyuz 7K-T - Life Support System] Go with the further precautions suggested by Sytsevich's clique
[] [Soyuz 7K-T - Life Support System] Plan for even more redundancies, albeit at a great monetary cost
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[1] More information on this mission will be revealed in Rumor Mill 3 (next update).
Ok guys we need to make something that won't kill the cosmonauts and also so we don't get purge if it fails
How much di it cost to bouild an OKS and a T in real life?
[X] [Soyuz 7K-T - Rocket Engine] Go with the new design proposed by Comrade Vollis
[X] [Soyuz 7K-T - Life Support System] Go with the further precautions suggested by Sytsevich's clique
[X] [Soyuz 7K-T - Life Support System] Go with the further precautions suggested by Sytsevich's clique
[X] [Soyuz 7K-T - Rocket Engine] Carry over the previous engine used by the 7K-OKS
[X] [Soyuz 7K-T - Life Support System] Plan for even more redundancies, albeit at a great monetary cost
[X] [Soyuz 7K-T - Life Support System] Plan for even more redundancies, albeit at a great monetary cost