[X] Talk with your team. No need to risk giving secrets to competitors- you know Tai can't keep his mouth shut.
[X] Team Lost Camp
 
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Adhoc vote count started by SeekerofDreams on Sep 27, 2018 at 2:04 PM, finished with 1402 posts and 11 votes.
 
[X] Talk with your team. No need to risk giving secrets to competitors- you know Tai can't keep his mouth shut.
[X] Team Lost Camp
 
Huh, common sense doesn't necessarily prevail.


-Vote Closed!-



Good news! By not naming your team after yourself, you don't suffer relationship penalties for your ego! That's good, right?
 
Prelude to Battle
"Alright, Team Lost Camp," You state, trying to sound like Kazuya in 'drill sergeant mode' and probably failing. "Time for a tactics meeting."

"Do you even know anything about tactics?" Tai asks.

"Do you?" You retort. He shuts up. "Honestly, I just want to make sure we can avoid hitting each other. Birdramon and Angemon have only ever sparred against each other before, and we've seen Greymon what, once? And both Biyomon and Patamon were Rookies then."

"It can't be that hard!" Patamon points out. "All I need to do is fly overhead and not go where Birdramon's flying. Greymon can... well, he can do whatever, I guess..."

"Greymon's the problem," Biyomon agrees. "He's big and bulky and we have no idea what he can do."

"Breathe fireballs?" Agumon suggests. "I think I can charge things pretty well."

"Don't have very good arms, though," Tai notes. "That's probably why you had trouble with Kuwagamon, really."

"And we don't have Palmon," TK finishes. "So we should probably think about this, right?"

It's a sad day when the kid of the team is the sensible one.


The six of you, while waiting, come up with a number of potential strategies, though you can't do a lot until the match listings are posted. At some point, Agumon gets out a deck of playing cards- you still don't know where it came from- and you all make an attempt to teach him human games, which fails miserably because the five of you don't really play card games to begin with.

After thoroughly embarrassing yourselves, it's Agumon's turn to try and teach you Digimon card games- which goes even worse, what with the fire man passing by, and the heat from his body incinerating the cards before the poor dino can even cover the first game.

Not that it matters, because that's when the listings show up.

The Colosseum's match-ups are... interesting, to say the least. There are two waiting rooms, and four teams in each room. For your first match you will be fighting a team from your own waiting room. In the second match, you will be fighting one of the surviving teams from the other waiting room. And for the finals, you will be facing whichever team won from the other matchup.

For your waiting room, the matchups are Team Lost Camp versus Team Trash, and Team Extreme Weather versus Team Moon. Of the two matches, yours goes first. The other waiting rooms contain Team Honey versus Team Plant Life, and Team Music versus Team Calico.

Not that the other fights matter to you at the moment. You just wait until your names are called.

"Now, here are some newcomers!" The announcer introduces you. "For the first time in a long time, we have DigiDestined in our midst! A reminder of the DigiDestined rules for those that never came to see Maki fight- Digivolution to the level limit only, nonlethal takedowns, DNA permitted-"

"Those are normal rules!" Someone in the crowd shouts.

"No use of the Digivice against Dark Digimon, voluntary reversions in level permitted- but if a Digimon is forced out of a stage, they're out of the fight. Anyway, the members of Team Lost Camp are Sora and Biyomon, Tai and Agumon, and TK and Patamon. Their opponents today will be Team Trash: Numemon, Sukamon, and Chuumon. They've never eked out a win before, but maybe today's their lucky day!"

Given how pathetic the Digimon across the arena from you look... they may be confirmable Champions with the exception of Chuumon, but still...

Do you even need to Digivolve against these things?


[ ] You don't have to. Tell Tai and TK this as well.

[ ] You still probably should. Tell Tai and TK this as well.

[ ] You don't have to. Let Tai and TK make their own decisions.

[ ] You still probably should. Let Tai and TK make their own decisions.
 
[X] You still probably should. Tell Tai and TK this as well.

And Palmon didn't look like she could tie down that Kuwagamon. Better safe than sorry, they're still Champions after all.
 
And Palmon didn't look like she could tie down that Kuwagamon. Better safe than sorry, they're still Champions after all.
They're LITERALLY the weakest champions possible (plus a weak rookie).
In the first digimon game you could only get them by FAILING to reach the requirement for EVERY other champion form! I'm not even sure if they were actually stronger than the previous rookie form!

The announcer actually told how they never won a fight!
Let's not reveal all our tricks in the first match.

While I think we'd probably win even as rookies, I propose this instead as a reasonable compromise.

[x] Propose having only Biyomon digivolve into Birdramon while Agumon and Patamon play support as rookie, to not exhaust yourselves against the first (and probably weakest) enemy team. If Tai or T.K. protest this, propose having one of their partner going champion instead of yours. The important thing is not revealing and tiring all three of them in an easy match.
 
[x] Propose having only Biyomon digivolve into Birdramon while Agumon and Patamon play support as rookie, to not exhaust yourselves against the first (and probably weakest) enemy team. If Tai or T.K. protest this, propose having one of their partner going champion instead of yours. The important thing is not revealing and tiring all three of them in an easy match.

I'm with this. The announcer said nothing about forbidding digivolving mid-match if they turn out to be stronger than they appear, so let's hold back for the time being and conserve our energy.
 
I find it amusing that nobody's questioning why some of those rules are even a thing, and why a number of them are 'normal rules'.
 
What you mean Digimon couldn't DNA digivolve in canon?
No, they needed a boost from their partners, but that's it. Also maybe some power borrowed from Azulongmon. ... Oh dear. If she got in contact with the Sovereigns, she may have siphoned off a little of each of their power. That may be how she was able to reclaim Tapirmon.
 
[x] Propose having only Biyomon digivolve into Birdramon while Agumon and Patamon play support as rookie, to not exhaust yourselves against the first (and probably weakest) enemy team. If Tai or T.K. protest this, propose having one of their partner going champion instead of yours. The important thing is not revealing and tiring all three of them in an easy match.
 
I find it amusing that nobody's questioning why some of those rules are even a thing, and why a number of them are 'normal rules'.
Well, digivolution for not partner digimon was there in canon (Leomon could go to Saberleomon at will by the end of adventure).

I am a bit surprised by the implication of dna digivolution being something normal digimon can do as well.

This two points raise the possible threat level of the rookie team by a lot. Dna between the rabbits (I still wonder, 2 Gazimon or Terriermon+Lopmon? we shall see) and maybe a digivolution for snow agumon as well could be pretty strong. Or even a triple dna digivolution!



I'd still advise all who are voting to go all out in the first match to think twice about it.

I understand not underestimating your opponents, but we're against the WEAKEST team. A numemon-sukamon team at that! They fight by throwing poop! (which, now that i think about it, is actually terrifying for all the wrong reasons :confused:)

They should BARELY be stronger than the average rookie, and while i would not want to get close to them (so dirty!), they have nothing that can counter the fireballs of Greymon OR Birdramon. We don't need both+ Angemon.

On a sidenote, the wiki says that Chuumon is usually very weak but smart. He should be the tactician/leader, and that makes him the first target.
 
[x] Propose having only Biyomon digivolve into Birdramon while Agumon and Patamon play support as rookie, to not exhaust yourselves against the first (and probably weakest) enemy team. If Tai or T.K. protest this, propose having one of their partner going champion instead of yours. The important thing is not revealing and tiring all three of them in an easy match.
 
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But if our opponents digivolve mid match, than they are free sport.
I'd remove this add-on for two reasons

1) It fragments the vote

2) Numemon and Sukamon are already champion level. They can't evolve to ultimate or dna evolve without violating the rules. Chuumon probably can't evolve anyway, it's role SHOULD be that of tactician.

3)i know I'm repeating myself here, but the even the announcer stated how they never won. Not even once! It's very unlikely this time would be different.

If our opponents had been the three rokies you'd be right, but now it's superfluous.

Other than against this team and MAYBE the rookie team it's unlikely we'll be able to hold back our champion forms anyway.
 
3)i know I'm repeating myself here, but the even the announcer stated how they never won. Not even once! It's very unlikely this time would be different.
"They never won so it'll be easy with three rookies" is literally the worst impression ever. Yes they never won. But here's the problem, they have fought many times. Our combat record combined is a Parrotmon from four years ago, Tai with a giant bug, and TK with a giant bug. That's our combined experience. These three have fought many battles and could be stronger than they appear to be. Yes their reputation as weak Digimon exist, but we don't know how much all this fighting how much stronger and skilled than what their reputation says.
 
[x] Propose having only Biyomon digivolve into Birdramon while Agumon and Patamon play support as rookie, to not exhaust yourselves against the first (and probably weakest) enemy team. If Tai or T.K. protest this, propose having one of their partner going champion instead of yours. The important thing is not revealing and tiring all three of them in an easy match.
 
"They never won so it'll be easy with three rookies" is literally the worst impression ever. Yes they never won. But here's the problem, they have fought many times. Our combat record combined is a Parrotmon from four years ago, Tai with a giant bug, and TK with a giant bug. That's our combined experience. These three have fought many battles and could be stronger than they appear to be. Yes their reputation as weak Digimon exist, but we don't know how much all this fighting how much stronger and skilled than what their reputation says.

1)Parrotmon was an ultimate. Killing him with only two freshly evolved and inexperienced champions was actually quite an achievement.
Also the Kuwagamon was, even if a bit weak, still a champion, and in general a lot stronger than any Numemon or Sukamon has any right to be (even if probably more stupid).

2)We did not fight a lot, true. Both Biyomon and Patamon have trained though. That does count for something. And going overkill with three champions against this team won't probably teach us a lot.
Actually, doesn't the system this quest follows reward us with more exp for better challenges? Going with three champions against them would probably give close to zero exp then. I didn't think of it before, but it's another reason to not go all out yet

3)I never said to fight with three rookies! Just that, as this is our first match (and by all appearances an easy one) there is no need to go all out from the start, so ONE champion supported by two rookies should be enough. EVEN if I'm wrong it's very unlikely we wouldn't have the time to rectify and digivolve mid-match.
Also i can't really think of anything Numemon and Sukamon can do to stop a fireball. Throw poop at it? :p

I suppose the ONLY way they could be a legitimate threat to even ONE of our champions is if

a)Chuumon is a master tactician that can come up with a way to counter us. Possible if very unlikely

b)They can DNA digivolve. Unlikely, not impossible, but the resulting form should in theory be an ultimate and so in violation of the rules, unless i misunderstood them. I also find it unlikely they never won ONE fight if they access to an ultimate form, unless everyone else does too...which would mean our chances of victory are lower than i expected.
Actually...

@SeekerofDreams Would DNA be against the rule if it brings the contestant to Ultimate? Can a DNA between champions result in a stronger champion?
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Pittauro on Sep 28, 2018 at 12:43 PM, finished with 1424 posts and 11 votes.

  • [X] You still probably should. Tell Tai and TK this as well.
    [x] Propose having only Biyomon digivolve into Birdramon while Agumon and Patamon play support as rookie, to not exhaust yourselves against the first (and probably weakest) enemy team. If Tai or T.K. protest this, propose having one of their partner going champion instead of yours. The important thing is not revealing and tiring all three of them in an easy match.
    [X] You don't have to. Tell Tai and TK this as well.
 
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