It's a giant plot hole, if it works the way you're suggesting. Anything marked "Who does this first wins" is a plot hole.

By which I mean, someone would have done it before. In this story, however, it seems that replicators can't replicate everything—though I bet they're still heavily used in construction.

My headcanon is that Replicators simply isn't energy efficient at all compared to more traditional manufacturing methods. On a starship or starbase or for food and other small items they are brilliant. Compact and fast. You can design on a screen or holodeck and then print out copies.

But for mass production or building a lot of very simple stuff like starship hull plating it simply isn't worth the extra energy drain. It's better to slap up a factory and ship the finished parts in. They might even scale in energy cost exponentially the larger the item being replicated is.

Not all stuff can be replicated either.
 
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Sure, that works too.

Are we going to see nanofactories anywhere, or are those entirely obsolete by now?
 
It's a giant plot hole, if it works the way you're suggesting. Anything marked "Who does this first wins" is best avoided. (And yes, I understand how ironic that becomes in a story about AIs.)

By which I mean, someone would have done it before. In this story, however, it seems that replicators can't replicate everything—though I bet they're still heavily used in construction.
Which would indicate that transporters can't transport everything, since they're basically the same technology. Which means that, if fusion reactors can't be replicated as was indicated earlier in this story, that any platform Star builds with one has to be shipped manually to the planet, making it pretty useless for away missions.

Also, I seem to recall entire warp-capable shuttlecraft being transported in canon, but I can't remember where.
 
Which would indicate that transporters can't transport everything, since they're basically the same technology. Which means that, if fusion reactors can't be replicated as was indicated earlier in this story, that any platform Star builds with one has to be shipped manually to the planet, making it pretty useless for away missions.

Also, I seem to recall entire warp-capable shuttlecraft being transported in canon, but I can't remember where.

Or, replicators and transporters are not a identical technology.
 
From my understanding it's a matter of storage space. Transporters have a giant bank of memory to temporarily store the data that makes you up. Replicated items are stored at lower fidelity, but there are some things which would not work at that lower fidelity.
 
From my understanding it's a matter of storage space. Transporters have a giant bank of memory to temporarily store the data that makes you up. Replicated items are stored at lower fidelity, but there are some things which would not work at that lower fidelity.

True that. The transporters only need to keep the pattern for a second or so.
 
I'd be very curious what sort of memory technology allows you to temporarily store data, and not permanently, but the answer will probably involve Wave Theory. That is to say, it's actually storing the matter, in some more flexible than usual form. It's not storing a description that can be copied.

Which is completely different from how replicators work, sure, but replicators already need to be capable of atomic precision; a well-done steak is more complex by far than the average fusion reactor. So it's something other than the raw complexity that determines whether or not it can be replicated, perhaps their fusion reactors are made up of more exotic substances than ITER?
 
Which is completely different from how replicators work, sure, but replicators already need to be capable of atomic precision; a well-done steak is more complex by far than the average fusion reactor. So it's something other than the raw complexity that determines whether or not it can be replicated, perhaps their fusion reactors are made up of more exotic substances than ITER?

Well, yes. More exotic substances, but I would also argue that the fusion reactor would care a bit more than the steak exactly where each atom is placed.
 
Well, yes. More exotic substances, but I would also argue that the fusion reactor would care a bit more than the steak exactly where each atom is placed.
It's not really on-topic, but at least for our fusion reactors that's not true. ITER is very much not atomically precise; it's a product of standard, bulk material technology. Of course that could have changed by the time of the Federation...

I still don't think I'd believe it. Mostly because, with steak, atomic precision really is important. The chemicals in the kind of food we can eat are themselves the product of atomically-precise manufacturing, namely the ribosomes in animal/plant cells, which has all the consequences you'd expect—they've got the hilarious, unbelievable complexity of a manufacturing system where the marginal cost of extra complexity is near-zero and the cost of an extra atom is high. There's nothing 'bulk-material' about it; a single misplaced carbon atom means your protein is no longer that particular protein, and while that kind of thing happens all the time when roasting your food, anything that's meant to be raw will feel wrong.

In fact, if the replicators aren't atomically precise at least 99.99% of the time then your bananas might come out as... well...



"Exotic materials" are a perfectly good explanation. Some kind of non-baryonic matter, or materials which can't be constructed because they're unstable unless constantly powered. Something other than atomic precision. Either that, or you might claim that the replicators can't actually make food, but can cheat by having protein mush piped in.
 
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Various Star Trek fiction has postulated that replicator food and drink doesn't taste quit the same as the real thing, in fact. And it's a plot point in several episodes that replicated living tissue is nonviable due to "single bit errors (although that may not be canon in this story of course).

As far as things that can't be replicated I recall a Star Trek novel that postulated that latinum couldn't be replicated, which is why it was used as money. An idea that made sense to me, since money that can be easily be replicated would be rather pointless.
 
Various Star Trek fiction has postulated that replicator food and drink doesn't taste quit the same as the real thing, in fact. And it's a plot point in several episodes that replicated living tissue is nonviable due to "single bit errors (although that may not be canon in this story of course).

As far as things that can't be replicated I recall a Star Trek novel that postulated that latinum couldn't be replicated, which is why it was used as money. An idea that made sense to me, since money that can be easily be replicated would be rather pointless.

Replicators are basically matter shufflers / molecular assemblers; they need raw feedstock, most likely of the correct elements since energy expenditure for nucleogenesis would be prohibitive. For organic matter, it's easy; feedstock is right from the sanitation system & atmospheric processors.

For latinum... you'd need to get a source of whatever element latinum is and it might be unstable in the energy fields used by replicators. So no, you can't use a replicator to make more latinum out of thin air.
 
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Four of my crew were in the freighter, the shuttle docked to the left crew docking port. I... couldn't see them. Couldn't hear their transmissions.

Not even lifesigns.

I hated it.

There was nothing I could do if anything went wrong. Nothing but watch and scan, trusting my friends to handle themselves against whatever was over there.

I wrote a message on Captains Masons console, "Captain, May I ask a question?"

He frowned slightly and then tapped in a response, "Of course. But why not simply ask?"

"Because it's not for the general crew to know. How do you do it?"

"Do what?"

"Keep your worry from showing. Send people into danger like this. I hate this."

Mason sighed and tapped in a answer after a long moment, "Practice."

I didn't want practice in this.

This... sucked. My friends were in danger and I was as powerless as the proto-rodent living in the cage in xenobiology. My transporters, weapons, sensors and shields. None of it mattered.

"Anything from the away team yet?" Mason asked out loud.

"Nothing, sir. Not since they passed inside the interference thirty minutes ago."

Just as I finished speaking, I picked up a signal. Distorted, but it was coming from the ship "...way to ...Star. We ...oud ...od... signs...wea.. urn..."

"Correction, I just picked up a signal. I believe the away team is returning now."

Captain Mason nodded, "Good. Mason to Sleeman. Anything new from the scans of the hull?"

Chief Engineer Sleeman looked up from his console down in engineering, "Nothing yet, Captain. Star can't get a scan it's hard to say. We have been working on it but from the visual signs... I would bet a good drink on a distributor or possibly plasma weapon. To the naked eye, they look similar."

Mason frowned, "Klingons?"

I mentally frowned at that and spoke up, "...Maybe. But those strikes were precise, centered at the engines. Somebody wanted that ship intact."

"Star is right." my chief engineer said, "It's not the Klingons style. They would have blown that ship to hell and back."

The shuttle disconnected from the freighter and was flanked by a pair of Valkyries as it started back to the ship, transmitting as soon as they were out of the interference, "Janeway to Mason."

"Mason here."

"We finished searching the freighter. No bodies, no sign of the crew. No blood either. No signs of weapons fire on the inside."

He nodded even if she couldn't see it, "Whoever attacked the ship, kidnapped the crew."

"Definitely not Klingons then." I said, scanning my database, "Orions?" I suggested hesitantly.

"Orions?" Commander Janeway asked, "They usually avoid Federation shipping. And we are far from their space."

Mason frowned thoughtfully though before he nodded, "I think Star might be on to something. Star, are you detecting a warp trail?"

I did a deeper subspace scan.

"Nothing, Captain... but if they left seven hours ago, it would be faint at best. Being this close to the interference don't help. I would need to do extensive scans and analysis for it to even be a chance to pick something up."

He nodded, "As soon as the shuttle and fighters are docked, move us away from the freighter and start your scanning. We will find the attackers."

"Yes sir."

Oh yes. We will. Orion slavers were... distasteful at best. Capturing people and forcing them to fight in arenas for their entertainment was one of their 'nicer' uses for slaves.

It was not rare for women who had been captured to have their minds wiped and then sold as sex slaves.

I detest slavers.

And when I find them, I will shove a maximum yield photon torpedo up their collective arses.


Moving away from the freighter I started to sniff around subspace as close to the freighter as I could without having the interference get in the way.

Warpdrives have a effect on subspace, but subspace was turbulent at the best of times. Any warp trace is quickly going to disperse.

Seven hours was on the limit.

But I did my best bloodhound impression, I wanted to find these people. Slavers are the biggest scum in the universe, the crew on that freighter deserved better.

Ten minutes later, I would have given a feral grin if I could.

There, a linear outgoing subspace trail leading away from the freighter.

Got you now.

"Warp trail detected, Captain. Heading, 213,5. It takes us away from the border."

Captain Mason nodded, "Set a course and initiate, warp nine. Let's get our people back."




AN// Throws waterballons full of Thanks at Troubled_one
 
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Only one max yield torpedo? Does star not have the ability to pull an Armitage's TORPEDOES FOR EVERYONE attack from STO?
 
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"The warp trail ends in the Kersia system, Captain." I reported and dropped out of warp almost two days later, about half a lightmonth outside the system to keep from getting spotted early.

Mason looked up from his console and nodded before he got up and headed towards the bridge. "Any signals?"

"None originating from the system that I can detect." I said. "They should still be there. The warptrail is much stronger now, I caught up a lot. It's not leading out of that system. I am not detecting any ships."

He nodded. "Suggestions, Commander?"

Janeway frowned in thought. She had had the bridge shift and as such, was already there.

"Deploy a flight of Peregrine bombers with dampened energy signatures. Scout the system before we continue."

He slowly nodded. "Star?"

"I disagree. We should move in-system now. If the fighters are detected, they would be in trouble and not only might be taken out, they would also alert the slavers. They might be able to escape... we would only be able to follow one ship."

Mason briefly tapped his fingers against his armrest before he shook his head. "I'm not bringing my ship into a potential ambush if I can help it. Wake the pilots up, we are sending in the Raiders."

"Yes sir."

The Red Raiders... the 'unofficial' name everyone used for Red Squadron, the Peregrine squadron onboard.

The fact that it was lead by Lieutenant Arne Bergson, a guy that looked like his past three lives were spend on a Viking longboat pillaging the English countryside helped a lot in getting it to stick.

They were also sneaky motherfuckers. He was the one that devised the plan that almost took me down in that exercise we did.

As for us... there was nothing for us to do but watch and wait.



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"Star, relax."

I frowned from the console screen on Sarahs desk. "I am relaxed?"

She put her PADD down into her lap and gave me a look. She was sitting in her chair in her small office in her flight suit, her helmet on the desk.

Gold Squadron were the ones to be the first to launch in case of a scramble which meant that she could wait here and the rest of her squadron were in their recreation area instead of in their fighters.

She took great use of it reading what could only be described as a trashy spy novel.

"Star, How long have we known each other?"

I frowned at that. "A little less than two months."

"I like to think we have gotten to know each other in that time. You are tense. Relax, you are making people nervous."

I blinked at that before I nodded. "...How could you tell?"

"You make fewer jokes and sarcastic comments when you are tense."

"Yeah, like that ever happens."

She grinned. "Too late, but it's a good try. First rule of being a officer, always be relaxed, always know what to do, especially when you don't have a clue and never, ever, let them see you sweat."

I raised an eyebrow at that and she grinned again.

"Words of wisdom from my father when I graduated the Academy. He is an Admiral."

I shrugged and nodded. "Seemed to have worked for him then. It's just... frustrating to just sit here and watch while others sneak in and have a look around. They are my crew, keeping you people safe is literally my job. Flying around out there keeps me from doing it. There is nothing I can do but watch and hope not to detect weapons fire."

Not only that. I was worried about getting into combat again. What if I froze? What if I made a mistake?

What if I get people killed again?

"You have to trust us to take care of ourselves."

"I know... I do. It's just frustrating."

Sarah frowned at that before she nodded. "Yeah... Yeah I see where you are coming from." She shook her head and continued, "Anyway, in a blatant attempt to distract you, can I ask a question I have been dying to ask?"

"...sure?"

"You were made at Jupiter Station, right? So why an Andorian avatar?"

I grinned at that. "Now that is a funny story."

"Now I have to hear it."

"You know Shran? Andorian, works Tactical?"

Sarah nodded. "I've seen him in the Lounge a couple of times. Ensign, right? Wait... are you two.."

I laughed at that. "What? No! Hell no! No, but he is involved in the story." I frowned slightly, "How much do you know about how I... was created?"

She shook her head. "Not much. Just that you were made at Jupiter Station."

I shrugged, "I was, in a way. Long story short, I grew up in a computer simulation of 21st century Earth. Until they pulled me out, I thought I was an average, if somewhat bored, human man."

"That's cruel... wait, wait... how do you go from human male to female andorian?"

"Yes it was. Which was why my creator went to jail over it and why the program was shut down. And I'm getting to it." I said before I continued with a small, thoughtful frown. "I spent some time on the Enterprise with Commander Data before deciding to join Starfleet. I realized I would likely to be the measuring stick to set a lot of... baselines... for my kind in the future. Data couldn't, he is of a completely different model. If they find a humane way to mass produce me, Starfleet will. What norms I set, will set the rules for those that come after me."

"That's a massive responsibility."

I nodded. "It is. So I distanced myself from the simulation, took a clearly non-biological robotic form and a somewhat gender neutral voice to give my 'descendants' as much wiggle room as possible with their choices. When I took a ship platform, I kept the voice. I didn't use a screen avatar back then either."

Sarah nodded. "So, what changed?"

"I was a ship so everyone called me she. It was either rolling with it or keep correcting everyone forever."

"Oh."

"But that's not when I got the voice. That was all Shran... he pranked me. We have known each other since the transport to the Academy, he knew exactly what I thought about the subject. So he used his sister's voice as a template and reprogrammed my last ship's voice processor."

Sarah laughed at that. "Really? Wow... how did he do that?"

"I have no clue yet. He just looks smug when I ask. But I got him back."

"Oh?"

"By the time he pulled his prank, I had stopped giving any kinds of fucks about what gender I was back in the sim. Basically the only part left is that I'm still attracted to women. I'm a ship now. So I kept the voice."

Sarah frowned. "So... how is that getting him back?"

I grinned. "Now he is getting told what to do by his sister's voice. Besides, for a month after his uniform replicated in two sizes: too large and too small."

That got her laughing again before she grinned. "That's cruel!"

"He deserved it for getting into a prankwar with a starship." I said with a grin. "As for the avatar, I figured I might as well use one that matched the voice. I used his sister's image as a template and changed it a bit. I look a little like his cousin would look like if he had one."

"Remind me to never do that."

"Don't worry, I wo-"

"Star?"

"Energy spike detected. Weapons fire in the inner system. I am engaging. You'd better get to your fighter."


She was out the door before I finished speaking.




AN// Many Thanks to Grey Rook for betaing this section.
 
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So, wanna place bets on how badly things end for these pirates? I mean, very few pirate groups can deal with a stock Akira/Armitage. Add the AI and the question is badly they will get stomped on.
 
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I didn't hesitate. Instead, I activated my warpdrive and folded space, bringing my power levels up and transferring powers into my weapon systems.

Arrival in three, two, one...


I dropped out of warp a couple of thousand kilometers from the fight.

"Red leader, we have arrived. Disengage."

"About time you got here! I don't know how these fuckers saw us, but get them off us!"

Lieutenant Bergson was not the best with com discipline.

Three ships. Two Orion frigates and one heavy cruiser, doing their best to try to hit the peregrine fighters with their heavy anti-ship disruptor weaponry.

They were not having a easy time of it.

"Orion vessels, this is the USS Second Star. Shut down your weapons and stand down," I transmitted to them as I rolled, bringing maximum amount of firepower to bare.

I waited a full five seconds as they changed targets to lock onto me according to Starfleet regulations.

Loss of life have to be prevented if at all possible and that mean giving fucking slavers a chance to stand down before I used my deadly deadly deathrays.

But five seconds was all I was giving them. Just enough time for a biological to register the hail and answer.

They didn't deserve more than five seconds.


"Targets locked. No response to hails. Engaging to disable," I reported to the bridge crew while holding the fighters' launch. These arseholes I could handle without risking them.

Disruptor beams played against my shields and I returned fire, twisting and turning to bring their fire onto fresh shield arcs.

Their shields handled the first spears of phaser fire, but they were Orion starships. Some of those hulls were pushing fifty years.

I was a brand new Starfleet Heavy Escort Carrier.

My second salvo cut through the shields of the first of the frigates, cutting a deep glowing swat along it's side, taking out two shield emitters and one engine.

The cruiser opened fire, four plasma torpedoes flashing towards me and I twisted, changing targets and letting lose my own spread of six photon torpedoes in return.

Three of the plasma torpedoes missed but the last didn't. It detonated against my ventral shields, bringing them down by twenty percent. Old or not, those plasma torpedoes pack a punch when they actually hit.

I didn't miss.

The photon torpedoes flew true.

Their shields held against one.

It held against two.

Even against three.

It didn't hold against four, five and six.

They smashed into the main superstructure, the forth one detonating against the meter thick armor.

The fifth didn't. It smashed straight into the ship and detonated deep in it, followed half a second later by a secondary explosion as it's antimatter storage lost containment when the last of the torpedoes detonated against the wreck.

I didn't mean to hit it quite that hard. I thought some might miss and I wanted to make sure their shields went down.

All I could do was hope that they didn't have slaves on board. If they stuck around a system like this, they likely had a hidden base somewhere in-system.

At least I really hoped they did and I didn't have anymore time to think about it.

Swinging around, I rolled, bringing my strongest shields against the shockwave, while my phasers played along the shields of the last intact frigate.

They turned and started to accelerate away, their aft disruptor arrays opening fire.

You are not getting away. Not happening.

I fired a single photon torpedo this time, smashing their aft shields apart before I lashed out with my phasers once more, slagging their main engines and aft weapons.


Leaving them to drift, I rolled around in a turn back towards the last still active combatant, the crippled frigate.

They still didn't try to surrender.

Instead, they kept firing at me. I didn't bother asking for their surrender either this time. Instead I reached out with my phasers, smashing through their weakened shields, picking off weapons, engines, shield generators.

When they were fully disabled, I turned again, heading back towards the other drifting frigate, giving it the same treatment, using low energy phasers as soon as I knocked it's remaining shields down to carefully knock everything defensive, mobile or offensive from it.

"All targets neutralized," I reported to Captain Mason, "Engagement time, forty point six seconds."'

He nodded, "Good. Survivors?"

"Approximately one hundred lifesigns in total between two frigates. Mostly Orion but also other species, including Klingon and Human. ...No lifesigns in the remains of the heavy cruiser. Sorry, sir."

Mason nodded again, "Are their life support stable?"

I checked quickly before I answered him, "Yes sir. I believe so."

"Good. Then they can drift for a while. Mason to Sleeman, how is it going with those cells in Cargobay Four?"

"Another four hours, Sir," my chief engineer answered after a short moment to think.

"Good," Mason said, "We can beam them directly to the cells in batches as soon as you are done and then sort the slavers from the slaves."

"Captain, there is a energy signature on the planet below," I reported with a mental frown, "It's mostly under ground and they have some kind of scattering field. If we were further away than orbit, I wouldn't have seen it. I think it's their base."

Janeway looked thoughtful at that. "Can you take out the scattering field from orbit?"

"No, Captain. I cannot directly pinpoint the source ...not without risking damaging the base and possible prisoners. I would really not recommend trying to beam through it either."

Captain Mason sighed at that before he frowned. "We just have to do things the hard way then. Shuttles and ground assault. Unless they decide to surrender that is," he said before he stood up. "Star, open a channel."

I hated this plan...




AN// Many thanks to Rastamon. Now where did I put those Salvage Corvettes?
 
Ah, Salvage Corvettes, the true reason the Kushan were exiled from known space all those millennia ago. Fighting them is like going up against the freaking Borg!

"Sir, the 1st fleet is jumping into the system... It appears to be accompanied by the Kushan Mothership!"

"Son of a Bitch!"

:p
 
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See, what you need are semiautonomous drones for boarding and combat purposes. Something no one will care if they get destroyed. Even if it needs to be accompanied by a sapient crewmember to actually make any necessary judgment of value, they'd be great independent mobile ablative armor.

And on how to sell it to Starfleet, it's repair drones for highly hazardous environments and/or incredibly undesirable jobs, made with universal manipulators to allow the drones to use standard equipment. That is, hands. :p It's just coincidence that it can also easily use the standard pattern phaser... :p
 
That's assuming there'll be a battle.

Oh, I expect a few shots fired, but realistically? They're not getting off that planet by their own power, and they know it. Their best shot at having a future is to negotiate for an even slightly more lenient prison sentence (which may, in this case, include having a prison sentence), then surrender.

Because if Star Fleet has to fight their way through the base, the survivors will get the book thrown at them.

Assume self-interest. Okay, now what's the smart thing for this group to do? Having a heroic last stand isn't it.
 
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