Bloody Evolution (RWBY / LoR)

Something just occurred to me. If the Abnormalities got character development/a part of the one who drove them off of the Realizations, what the fuck did the Keter Abnormalities get from Carmen?

Heart of Aspiration might not have gotten anything (the starting choices Naron gave basically said it's a will-less Tool), but there's still Bloodbath, Pinocchio, the Snow Queen, and the Silent Girl. All of them got to see both the inside of Carmen's head and faced Angela's character development incarnated as E.G.O. pages.

I hope its something as benign as the empathy and care that Carmen shows to even Distortions, but somehow I doubt its that simple.
 
They are basically direct connection to carmen, so the heart won't change, The bloodbath maybe will stop killing people and dragging them in, Pinocchio will stay the same, and the silent girl maybe won't even show up after the realization because she sure as hell is just carmen.
Then there is ice Queen, She is not that deeply tied to carmen so she might change somewhat, but...eh, If the abnos don't have the motivation to change their way, they won't change.
 
There's also another thing. Keter Realization isn't exactly a Realizaztion. It's more like a Reception than anything.

Carmen's mind didn't change by the end of it.
 
There's also another thing. Keter Realization isn't exactly a Realizaztion. It's more like a Reception than anything.

Carmen's mind didn't change by the end of it.

Keter realization was wholly about Angela. It was Angela's last temptation as seen by all the text floating by trying to convince Angela to stay the course WRT how she deserves stealing the Light and Angela refuting it by showing she has moved on.

It's only about Carmen insofar as Angela is made from Carmen's image and showing how Carmen is unable to move on and recommends to other people to do the same.
 
There's also another thing. Keter Realization isn't exactly a Realizaztion. It's more like a Reception than anything.

Carmen's mind didn't change by the end of it.
As I said at a different quest, In my understanding keter realization is Carmen doing everythings she can to stop angela from giving ayin a voice.
Also maybe pull Angela onto her ship.
Once she realized that she can't do anything about it, she gives up and accepted that Her work will be more difficult from now on.
What we were doing is more like freeing ayin from silence and in this process angela determine that she will accept her original fate, Disappear without a trace.
Yet another thing Ayin left unfinished. I really really hope, we get to play as him again one day.
me too man.
 
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Yet another thing Ayin left unfinished. I really really hope, we get to play as him again one day.

???

As noted in LC and explicitly stated in LoR in Keter's realization Carmen Was Always Like This. By her own words she put a sunny front yet was far more emotionally fragile than people thought. Like, the entire deal with Enoch and Carmen's suicide is that she found out she was the perfect specimen for the experiment, yet she was too afraid of death and dithered until Enoch offered himself which she eventually accepted and then was killed; it's why Lisa's words about how Carmen should have died instead of Enoch cut her so hard because they were true.

Accepting yourself for who you are no matter how terrible is the advice she gives everyone because that's the logic she follows given her own actions.
 
That's what I meant. Carmen is the last "sephirah" who didn't get her own Realization/Meltdown. She needs the "Therapy Beatdown" treatment Ayin/X/Angela/Roland/The Rest of the Group use.

The only one in position to talk/beat down Carmen in the light is Ayin. Which is why I say I hope we get to play as him again.
 
Right. Forgot about half of them sort of being Carmen already. I guess they just get to ride out these whole Realization things unscathed.

As I said at a different quest, In my understanding keter realization is Carmen doing everythings she can to stop angela from giving ayin a voice.

Huh, do you think he'll show up as a Voice as well in the future? From what I've seen in Leviathan, it seems like the Distortion phenomenon changed somewhat after the second White Nights so that could be his influence...

...actually, considering we're Voices in the Light, would that mean we're playing as Ayin trying to backseat Binah? or do you think we're just some randos who the Light got extracted from?
 
eh, I already put the theory out but used Carmen instead of ayin, seems Possible but not likely.
Because binah will instantly recognize us.
 
Alright, votes closed.
Adhoc vote count started by Naron on Oct 13, 2022 at 9:10 AM, finished with 129 posts and 43 votes.

Oh, would you look at the time: it is troll o'clock! Let us change the subject to something seemingly unrelated in perfect Binah fashion :V
 
Oh, right. I should mention something: upon reviewing the mystery traits Ash has, I realised one of them is kind of... skeevy. As in, not the trait itself but how I wanted to handle what it signifies. It is not really worth an actual trait. So I am removing that.

If anyone goes back to check and finds one less set of question marks, you are not misremembering. This is why.
 
I heard Hod offers counseling sessions. If such thoughts persist, be sure to pay her a visit :V
Yeah, I don't know about that. She gaved me a bunch of drugs. I don't know why, I don't take drugs.
No, my paranoid is not because my drug addiction, what do you ask, Are you from upper management!? Are you spy?!
 
Oh, would you look at the time: it is troll o'clock! Let us change the subject to something seemingly unrelated in perfect Binah fashion :V

We should be able to manage to get somewhere before the next day begins, now, this somewhere might not have anything to do with the place Ash wanted to go to, but it's not our fault she wasn't precise enough when she told her destination. :V
 
If the reaction is interesting enough and it could be added into the growing pile of evidence of angelica theory.
 
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