I like their style. How much do they charge for a character sheet depicting Artie in various outfits? If that's something you can't answer, then what work did you have them do, and how much did you pay them?

I did a commission for a major character in For The Tyrants Fear Your Might, in which I'm a co-QM. It included an outfit and a chair, though the background was null.


This was 130 Euros or so, I believe, which Tyrants was able to pay out of the Patreon we set up specifically and exclusively for commissioning artwork.
 
If I had to describe his art, it usually has this dramatic cosmic horror element to it.

Asking him to draw what could be described as a vampire 40k Pariah would be right up his alley I think.
 
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While we're on the subject, I think now would be a good time to flesh out Artie's appearance. Aside from the burn scars on the left side of his face, I don't have anything concrete about our protagonist's appearance save that he can pass as a Hispanic man in his late twenties when out in public, albeit one disfigured by a horrific accident involving fire. His scarring is less Zuko or Shoto Todoroki and more like Hanako Ikezawa from Katawa Shoujo.


I'd also like to determine Artie's taste in clothing. We've delved a little into what they might wear at Elysium, but what about when they're out in the Windy City? Do you envision them wearing all-black? Streetwear? Professional clothing? Something else? I'd love to hear your ideas.
 
I kinda think he approaches clothing very frugally since he was a veteran-turned-starving-artist. I think he has a strong habit of wearing cheap but durable work clothes. He might even still dress partially in military garb like camo pants and jackets.
So maybe dressing more like a blue collar worker or someone who is still in the military.

Now this trait isn't something I had contributed to Artie, but my mom does it and I always thought this was really cool. She buy plain clothes like completely white shoes or a denim jackets and then she'll decorate them her self. She draw designs or decals on them and then painted them herself. These artistic feats include but are not limited to, painting Yosemite Sam and his smoking guns on the back of a jacket with bullet holes over her heart on the front and the text 'Y'all Missed!' On the sleeves. For shoes she paints ranch animals like; cows, goats, chickens, cats and dogs, in a kaleidoscopic mosaic pattern on the top and sides. For jeans she likes to take pictures with lots of sentimental value and paint them on the pants legs with the images climbing up in chronological order.

Not sure all of this is something Artie would do but I always thought this was cool and wanted to share the idea.

Random tangent, is someone of Hispanic heritage unusual in a place as far North as Chicago? Down here in Texas a majority of people have either a Hispanic relative by law or Hispanic heritage themselves.
 
Sweaters and dark jeans?
Lots of skin coverage to prevent accidentally touch and excuse cold temperatures.
Generic and dark enough to blend in well.
 
I kinda think he approaches clothing very frugally since he was a veteran-turned-starving-artist. I think he has a strong habit of wearing cheap but durable work clothes. He might even still dress partially in military garb like camo pants and jackets.
So maybe dressing more like a blue collar worker or someone who is still in the military.

Now this trait isn't something I had contributed to Artie, but my mom does it and I always thought this was really cool. She buy plain clothes like completely white shoes or a denim jackets and then she'll decorate them her self. She draw designs or decals on them and then painted them herself. These artistic feats include but are not limited to, painting Yosemite Sam and his smoking guns on the back of a jacket with bullet holes over her heart on the front and the text 'Y'all Missed!' On the sleeves. For shoes she paints ranch animals like; cows, goats, chickens, cats and dogs, in a kaleidoscopic mosaic pattern on the top and sides. For jeans she likes to take pictures with lots of sentimental value and paint them on the pants legs with the images climbing up in chronological order.

Not sure all of this is something Artie would do but I always thought this was cool and wanted to share the idea.

Random tangent, is someone of Hispanic heritage unusual in a place as far North as Chicago? Down here in Texas a majority of people have either a Hispanic relative by law or Hispanic heritage themselves.

Not entirely unknown, but not the most common. Chicago is... a heck of a city.

(Also incidentally the 4th most Segregated city in America, something I learned offhand while talking about my home city, which turns out to be the 30th. Not an important fact, but a fact.)
 
I kinda think he approaches clothing very frugally since he was a veteran-turned-starving artist. I think he has a strong habit of wearing cheap but durable work clothes. He might even still dress partially in military garb, like camo pants and jackets.
So maybe dressing more like a blue-collar worker or someone who is still in the military.
While I agree that Artie would favor clothing that'll last a while, I think he'd avoid camouflage and other overtly military accouterments. Oakley sunglasses and PT gear might be practical in a military environment, but in a civilian context, they just make you look like a tool. Besides, I feel Artie would be the type of ex-military who'd keep his prior service on the down low. Rear-echelon motherfucker-turned-angry Facebook vet, he is not.

Now this trait isn't something I had contributed to Artie, but my mom does it and I always thought this was really cool. She buys plain clothes like completely white shoes or denim jackets and then she'll decorate them herself. She draw designs or decals on them and then painted them herself. These artistic feats include but are not limited to, painting Yosemite Sam and his smoking guns on the back of a jacket with bullet holes over her heart on the front and the text 'Y'all Missed!' On the sleeves. For shoes, she paints ranch animals like; cows, goats, chickens, cats, and dogs, in a kaleidoscopic mosaic pattern on the top and sides. For jeans, she likes to take pictures with lots of sentimental value and paint them on the pants legs with the images climbing up in chronological order.

Not sure all of this is something Artie would do but I always thought this was cool and wanted to share the idea.
That's so neat! However, I think Artie would rather spend the material on a client's commission than his wardrobe - at least before their Embrace. That said, Nick probably has at least one jacket Artie decorated as a birthday present.

Random tangent, is someone of Hispanic heritage unusual in a place as far North as Chicago? Down here in Texas a majority of people have either a Hispanic relative by law or Hispanic heritage themselves.
Chicago is a big city, so I'd be very surprised if encountering a Latino was a noteworthy event. While I was reading through Chicago by Night, I was pleasantly surprised to discover a thin-blood NPC from the Philippines, among other noteworthy Kindred characters.

Sweaters and dark jeans?
Lots of skin coverage to prevent accidentally touch and excuse cold temperatures.
Generic and dark enough to blend in well.
If Prince Jackson were to declare a Blood Hunt, I can imagine Artie adding an unbuttoned dark coat to that ensemble, making them look like the Ventrue Enforcer archetype from Bloodhunt.

 
for artie i can picture them in a lot of upcycled thrift-bin clothes and hand-me-downs, at least before he started making enough to live comfortably.

in practice this would look like an eclectic collection of vintage/retro/outdated pieces, maybe tailored or hemmed to fit if they could swing it, with more modern accessories and basics that you can get cheaply.
 
Rear-echelon motherfucker-turned-angry Facebook vet, he is not.
Sorry this reference flew over my head. But from cultural context clues I can tell it's a negative description that does sound like Artie.

However, I think Artie would rather spend the material on a client's commission than his wardrobe - at least before their Embrace.
I'm positive there would be at least one client who would love to wear their art piece. My mom used to sell her stuff at steer shows and farmers market and she always made a good sell.

Granted this kinda thing is something most people would never even consider asking about. So unless Artie advertised he could do it, than it's probably just something cool he does in private.

Side Thought: If my mom was a vampire she'd be a Toreador, though her temper is comparable to an angry mother Grizzly Bear. Wearing fashionable clothes at every opportunity sounds like a Toreador thing. But painting a high quality original art piece onto those fashionable clothes sounds like a huge flex on every other Toreador in view.

If Prince Jackson were to declare a Blood Hunt, I can imagine Artie adding an unbuttoned dark coat to that ensemble, making them look like the Ventrue Enforcer archetype from Bloodhunt.
It's a good look. Though my sensibilities tell me that a suit jacket is a poor choice for combat and indiscretion. Maybe a Carhartt jacket instead?

Forgive me unlike my mom, I'm not fashion conscious.

Side Thought: This style of clothing makes sense given how cold Chicago is year around.
 
Sorry this reference flew over my head. But from cultural context clues I can tell it's a negative description that does sound like Artie.
You might be more familiar with the acronym REMF, which refers to soldiers who work noncombat jobs that aren't on the frontlines, e.g. the bureaucrats in uniform who approve leave requests and make sure people get paid on time. Consequently, they're perceived by the grunts who do see combat as not really soldiers.

Side Thought: If my mom was a vampire she'd be a Toreador, though her temper is comparable to an angry mother Grizzly Bear. Wearing fashionable clothes at every opportunity sounds like a Toreador thing. But painting a high quality original art piece onto those fashionable clothes sounds like a huge flex on every other Toreador in view.
If we're being honest here, most of us would end up as a vampire's dinner rather than their newest childe. Besides, I think most Toreador would look down on your mom for painting cartoon characters on stuff she pulled out of a Goodwill donation bin.
 
If we're being honest here, most of us would end up as a vampire's dinner rather than their newest childe.
Very true and even if we are lucky enough to be considered more than that. We'd probably wind up as ghouls instead.

Besides, I think most Toreador would look down on your mom for painting cartoon characters on stuff she pulled out of a Goodwill donation bin.
Honestly can't help but smile at the notion. Now I'm very biased for obvious reasons. But if I had to sum up my mom, take Margaret Boland mix in appearance and style of Cruella De Vil and then throw one while grizzly bear into batter with a sprinkling of Anne Oakley. Oh than put a dash of Indians Jones, only because my mom has an extreme fear of all snakes, except Blue Indigoes.

If anyone can guess why there's an exception to an otherwise all encompassing fear, than you now your Zoology.
 
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[X] [SCOUT] Let's see if the local wildlife saw anyone suspicious walking down the street at night.
-[X] I'll roll a Rouse check so the roll automatically succeeds.

As the third-most-populous city in America, Chicago is best known for its human inhabitants. Before becoming President of the United States, Barack Obama represented Illinois in the state legislature and the US Senate. Al Capone may have been born in Brooklyn, but it wasn't until he arrived in the Big Onion that he made a name for himself as a gangster and later as one of the Old Prince's progeny. Actors, comedians, musicians, politicians, sports stars…Chicago has given birth to them all.

However, that isn't to say that humans are the only living beings in Chicago worth mentioning. It only took a few moonlit walks with Cedrick Calhoun for you to realize just how many wild things called the concrete jungle home. Like most cities in the United States, there are rats, pigeons, and strays, but there are also birds of prey and other animals a student of the Animalism Discipline should be aware of. Even in the suburbs, one can find more unusual specimens if one knows where to look.

It doesn't take long for you to find the specific animal you're looking for. The nearby streetlight illuminates the coyote's reddish fur as he sniffs around the trash can left on the curb for collection, bushy tail wagging with anticipation. You call to the coyote in a low voice to avoid waking the neighborhood. "Smell something good to eat, boy?"

The coyote's ears perk up upon hearing your voice as he turns to face you. Most animals show an aversion to Kindred, but this one seems unafraid of you, perhaps because of the confidence bestowed by his unusual size. While most coyotes are around forty pounds, you estimate this one to weigh almost twice as much. Given his prodigious size and fur color, there was only one name suited for your new canine acquaintance. "Here, Clifford. Let me help you with that trash can."

Clifford watches in awe of the power of opposable thumbs as you slowly tip over the trash can onto its side. Fortunately, the family whose waste filled the container didn't dispose of anything too noisy, allowing the coyote to tear open the plastic bags inside without fear of being chased off.

As Clifford digs in with gusto, you can't help but be impressed by what he's willing to eat. To your knowledge, coyotes prefer fresh meat but have been known to scavenge and eat fruits and vegetables if live prey is unavailable. However, Clifford seemingly possesses an iron gullet. A half-eaten apple goes down the hatch, along with two mushy-looking bananas, a dried-up pickle, and chicken giblets that were likely discarded when preparing a finer meal.

Once Clifford has had his fill, you lift the trash can back up and return it to its original position as though nothing had happened. Having finished making yourself an accomplice to a coyote's dumpster diving, you get down on one knee to look Clifford in the eye as he sits on his haunches. "Hey, boy. Remember how I asked you to look out for others like me?"

Clifford nods, tail wagging. Part of you still feels faintly ridiculous when conveying complex thoughts to a wild animal via the human tongue. However, the vampiric power in your veins is enough to make yourself understood. "Have you seen anyone like me sniffing around this area?"

In response, Clifford cocks his head as if trying to recall the scent of any strange vampires. He sits in contemplative silence long enough for you to believe he hasn't seen anything unusual. However, your canine acquaintance suddenly gets on his paws and yips an affirmative before trotting away with you. You hastily take long strides to catch up with him, but before too long, Clifford halts at a street corner a few blocks down the road.

As Clifford lies flat between two cars parked on the side of the street, you take the hint and call upon the nearby shadows to cloak you. Once you're confident that the power of Oblivion has fully concealed you, you peek your head out from behind the minivan you've pressed yourself against.

Walking down the sidewalk on the other side of the street is a pale man - too pale to be among the living. Every button on his expensive coat is fastened, and you watch as the young-looking man idly combs his fingers through his swept-back blonde hair. Your voice comes out in a low whisper. "Well, if it isn't Jason fucking Newberry."

Had you called upon your vitae to imitate life, your heart would be racing. What business does the Primogen of Clan Malkavian have in this neighborhood? While some part of you is willing to believe that it's innocuous, the rest of you grows ever uneasier as you pull your phone out and begin tailing Newberry. As the Malkavian Primogen stares up at the second-story window where Sravya Kathy sleeps, you finally receive a reply from her aunt.

I'm stuck in traffic. Please save her.

Your fingers trace the outlines of the weapons concealed on your person. Expecting Kathy to arrive on time from downtown was a long shot at best, but at least she's been made aware of what's happening. You'll have to stop Jason Newberry and whatever he has planned for Kathy Glens' mortal family on your own. Fortunately, he hasn't noticed your presence yet, giving you precious seconds to consider your options.

While you carry a pistol hidden inside your jacket, gunshots in this neighborhood would attract too much attention and raise too many questions. Thus, you consider the combat knife and wooden stake instead. While sharp objects aren't much of a threat to Kindred, a wooden stake through the heart could stop Newberry in his tracks before he even has a chance to fight back. However, even under ideal conditions, staking a vampire is no easy feat.

Getting into close-quarters combat with the Malkavian Primogen offers better odds. However, if Newberry were to escape to see another night, he is almost sure to make your unlife even more complicated. The last thing you want is to fall out of Prince Jackson's favor for infringing on the prerogative found in the Sixth Tradition.

Of course, you could always use your words and keep things civil. While Newberry's presence is highly suspicious, he hasn't violated any Traditions. If you were to use the power taught to you by Erzulie, negotiations could go much more smoothly for you. However, no one gets a seat on the Primogen Council without becoming aware of the Presence Discipline. It may prove safer to rely on the people skills you honed as a mortal artist rather than the power of your vitae.

Last but not least is the option of recruiting Clifford to your side. While he has yet to leave, the coyote is unlikely to stick around for much longer. If you can talk him into fighting alongside you, you can turn the confrontation into a two-on-one fight. However, wild animals aren't known for risking their lives for humans they've only met recently, much less vampires. It'll be a hard sell, but perhaps the extra help is worth ceding the initiative.

As Newberry steps forward toward Gagandeep's front door, you make your decision.

Happy anniversary, guys! I'm currently trying to put together reference material for an art commission of our protagonist, so if you could include a picture or two that brings Artie Delacruz to mind along with your vote, I'd be grateful.

[ ] [SON] Time to stick Jason Newberry with the pointy end.
-[ ] I'll activate Blood Surge to add two dice to my roll.
-[ ] I'll spend a point of Willpower to reroll up to three dice unaffected by my Hunger.

Dexterity + Melee (Difficulty: 1)

[ ] [SON] I won't get a better opportunity to put a stake through Jason Newberry's heart.
-[ ] I'll call upon the Beast to add two dice to my roll.
-[ ] I'll spend a point of Willpower to reroll up to three dice unaffected by my Hunger.

Strength + Melee (Difficulty: 8)

[ ] [SON] If I'm going to handle things nonviolently, I'll do it without resorting to Presence.
???

[ ] [SON] I'll activate Awe to help the Malkavian Primogen see things my way.
-[ ] I'll roll a Rouse check to add two dice to my roll.
-[ ] I'll spend a point of Willpower to reroll up to three dice unaffected by my Hunger.

Manipulation + Presence (Difficulty: 3)

[ ] [SON] I'll quietly convince Clifford to help me fight Jason Newberry.
-[ ] I'll tempt the Beast to try and convince the coyote with two extra dice.
-[ ] I'll spend a point of Willpower to reroll up to three dice unaffected by my Hunger.

Manipulation + Animalism (Difficulty: 6)
 
What's our beef with Jason Newberry again? It's been long enough that I've forgotten.
We helped out the Lasombra and he hates Artie for it.
To elaborate on @ArcanaVitae's explanation, Newberry really doesn't like Clan Lasombra and voted against admitting them into the Chicago Camarilla. However, in Update 4.03, Artie convinced Clan Malkavian to overrule their Primogen by casting doubt on his motives for opposing the Magisters' entry into the Ivory Tower. Ever since then, Newberry believes Artie to be little more than a puppet of the Lasombra.

As for Artie, they can tell something's off about Jason Newberry but can't pinpoint exactly what. All Malkavians are some degree of eccentric, but Son is unsettling in a way that has what's left of Artie's Humanity shirking back.
 
[X] [SON] Time to stick Jason Newberry with the pointy end.
-[X] I'll activate Blood Surge to add two dice to my roll.
-[X] I'll spend a point of Willpower to reroll up to three dice unaffected by my Hunger.


The dude's endangering mortals and there aren't any Kindred around who'll tell on us for stopping that. Stake's impossible to succeed without a crit and recruiting Clifford would be hard even with a blood surge, so hit hard while the fight's as skewed in our favour as possible.

@Rogue Attican would it be possible to make a called shot to the legs to try and cut at his hamstrings? That'd be superficial damage to a vampire so he can just heal it, but he'd have to spend blood to do that, and until he heals it, my thinking is that he'd be fighting without the use of a leg.
 
[X] [SON] Time to stick Jason Newberry with the pointy end.
-[X] Called shot to the leg to cripple him. (Difficulty 3)
-[X] I'll activate Blood Surge to add two dice to my roll.
-[X] I'll spend a point of Willpower to reroll up to three dice unaffected by my Hunger.
 
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While most coyotes are around forty pounds, you estimate this one to weigh almost twice as much. Given his prodigious size and fur color, there was only one name suited for your new canine acquaintance. "Here, Clifford. Let me help you with that trash can."
Most people don't realize, but the size and weight displayed for most animals is an average. Which means it's very possible for members of certain species to be much bigger than that average. My family once had to deal with a big cat that was skulking around our ranch. Me and my mom saw it, it was with a Mountain lion that had lost its tail or a Bobcat that was 100lbs bigger than its average. The reason why we're still not sure was the coloring was a lot closer to a Bobcat than a mountain lion.

A part of me wish we could go full Pokémon Trainer and collect another Canine creature to grow our dog-themed team. But alas we must have game balance.

[X] [SON] Time to stick Jason Newberry with the pointy end.
-[X] Called shot to the leg to cripple him. (Difficulty 3)
-[X] I'll activate Blood Surge to add two dice to my roll.
-[X] I'll spend a point of Willpower to reroll up to three dice unaffected by my Hunger.

I'll
vote with @Andres on this. If we can impair him, we could potentially stake him at our leisure. Plus if we succeed but still get caught, we can potentially spin the narrative in our favor. Just remember that Malkavians have Auspex it's very possible he could see us coming if we use just Unseen Passage.

If we get a hit and impair him, I'd suggest we got for his eyes next. It might stop him from identifying us if we're quick enough.
 
A part of me wish we could go full Pokémon Trainer and collect another Canine creature to grow our dog-themed team. But alas we must have game balance.
There's nothing stopping you from spending experience points on the Retainer Background to make a trained animal your ghoul. However, issuing commands more complex than "sic 'em!" would require you to roll Rouse checks to activate Feral Whispers since they're not your famulus.

Plus if we succeed but still get caught, we can potentially spin the narrative in our favor.
Potentially, but it'd be tricky. You may have Prince Jackson's favor, but allowing unsanctioned violence against the Primogen to go unpunished sets a bad precedent, especially if the perpetrator is a Hound whose entire job is to uphold Camarilla law. While Newberry's encroachment could be argued as a violation of the Second Tradition, Gagandeep's house hasn't officially been recognized as Kathy Glens' domain.
 
There's nothing stopping you from spending experience points on the Retainer Background to make a trained animal your ghoul. However, issuing commands more complex than "sic 'em!" would require you to roll Rouse checks to activate Feral Whispers since they're not your famulus.
Tempting, a Retainer that is categorically a wild animal has some upsides to it. They're more available than a human would technically be. More controllable too and any violence they commit would be seen as a wild animal attack. I'm gonna add Clifford the Big Red Coyote to the potential Retainer list.

Potentially, but it'd be tricky. You may have Prince Jackson's favor, but allowing unsanctioned violence against the Primogen to go unpunished sets a bad precedent, especially if the perpetrator is a Hound whose entire job is to uphold Camarilla law. While Newberry's encroachment could be argued as a violation of the Second Tradition, Gagandeep's house hasn't officially been recognized as Kathy Glens' domain.
It would certainly be a sticky situation.

We could argue that while it was not recognized as her domain, we found evidence suggesting a kindred intended to do Kathy emotional and psychological harm by attacking key mortals pillars of her humanity.

From this we could ask for mercy on the grounds that with the Wight encounter so fresh in our mind, combined with Son's familiarly unsettling nature. We had jumped the gun in a high tension situation, when all we had wished was to prevent another Wight incident from occurring.

Or we could argue that we weren't able to identify who the kindred was until we were well into the fight. But that could only really work if Son doesn't have a say in the matter. Then again it was dark, and canonically Kindred don't have great night vision.
 
We could argue that while it was not recognized as her domain, we found evidence suggesting a kindred intended to do Kathy emotional and psychological harm by attacking key mortals pillars of her humanity.
Since when have Kindred ever cared about each other's emotional wellbeing? Vampires don't really have friends so much as they do interests.

From this we could ask for mercy on the grounds that with the Wight encounter so fresh in our mind, combined with Son's familiarly unsettling nature. We had jumped the gun in a high tension situation, when all we had wished was to prevent another Wight incident from occurring.

Or we could argue that we weren't able to identify who the kindred was until we were well into the fight. But that could only really work if Son doesn't have a say in the matter. Then again it was dark, and canonically Kindred don't have great night vision.
The first argument wouldn't hold up in Prince Jackson's court, but the second might. As Primogen, Son (supposedly) represents the Malkavians of Chicago. However, if you could get enough of the Lunatics on your side, Prince Jackson and the rest of the court might be more inclined to "believe" that it was all just an unfortunate accident.
 
Since when have Kindred ever cared about each other's emotional wellbeing? Vampires don't really have friends so much as they do interests.
Fair, I typed it anyways mostly to confirm if that was the case. You know the lore better than I do. I wasn't sure if targeting a Vampire's…retainers?, mortal interests? would constitute as breaking a tradition or just bending them a little. Domain is typically land or a hunting ground, but where do ghouls and mortal servants fall in that?

The first argument wouldn't hold up in Prince Jackson's court, but the second might. As Primogen, Son (supposedly) represents the Malkavians of Chicago. However, if you could get enough of the Lunatics on your side, Prince Jackson and the rest of the court might be more inclined to "believe" that it was all just an unfortunate accident.
We did it once…might be able to do it again. Something to consider.

Question, besides targeting Kathy's family, does Son have any reason to be anywhere near here? Like in reference to his domain and hunting ground, how far a field is he?

Because our argument of attacking an unknown kindred trouble maker and not realizing it was Primogen Son. Would sound more mundanely plausible, if we had no reason to think someone important would be near this area.
 
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