An Exploration of the Mortal Realms: An Age of Sigmar Thread

Is the implication meant to be that they crash an airship or somesuch into Belakrummdgeons face?
Maybe I've gotten too used to reading so much rules text that I forgot other people don't know what I'm talking about. Gromthi is the White Dwarf, who is almost certainly Grungni. Skyfarers are the dude in suits, Skyvessels are the airships. Marines are Skyfarers who serve as ground troops and garrison the airships. If you check the last page, I posted the story tidbit of Be'lakor coming face to face with Grungni and bailing. The dice roll is to determine if one of the Skyfarers is Grungni. If so, then Be'lakor runs away, leaving the battle.
How the heck does this work?

Oh wait, it's Grungi in hiding isn't it? Although why would he die instead of disappearing as well then?
6 means Grungni is there. 1-5 means it was some rando Skyfarer who ends up dying. Be'lakor is mentioned as being removed from play but not slain to represent him running away. There are abilities that proc off "Slain" vs abilities that proc off "removed from play". Rules text has to be very specific.

To be exact, it's because there are abilities that let you fight before you die, but those abilities don't work if you are "removed from play" as a result of failing a battleshock test, which means you ran away instead of dying.
 
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6 means Grungni is there. 1-5 means it was some rando Skyfarer who ends up dying. Be'lakor is mentioned as being removed from play but not slain to represent him running away. There are abilities that proc off "Slain" vs abilities that proc off "removed from play". Rules text has to be very specific.
OOooh, I see. Read it wrong. Though Bel vanished then the Skyfarer died.
 
I just got the most recent White Dwarf and I read it. The last few pages had a Grombrindal short story: "Old White Fur". It's from the PoV of Skaven, and as fun as you'd expect from the Skaven.

But also equally scary, but this time it's because of a Dwarf rather than the Skaven. I've got so much to say, but I will transcribe what Grombrindal says to describe his nature:

'This was a Duardin Hold,' he said. 'Once. Before it fell to the Glotkin with the rest of Thyria during the Age of Chaos. But the Brothers Glott couldn't have cared less for the glories of the Duardin and, as your lot are wont to do, you soon wormed your way in once the Brothers had moved on. You held my people's wealth for less than a year before killing yourselves over who had the best ideas on how to spend it. A part of me was there to see it, so I remember. You see, the Dispossessed left a single ranger behind them when they left. One elderly whitebeard whose task it was to stand watch over the lost holding and keep record 'ere the return of the king. He perished, alone and long ago, but his vigil passed into legend and into me.'

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'And so long as the descendants of that king still live, so long as there are Duardin who yearn for the restoration of Garok Stromaz - aye that's its real name - so long as there are Skaven who fear the myth, I'll be here still.'

'I will tell them, oh white-furred master!' Zeek squealed, groveling on the floor. He had the sense that the white-fur had grown vast above him, and he did not dare look up to see if it was true. 'Zeek will serve as Passnitch-meat failed. He will squeak the story of the White-Fur to all who would listen.'

'You will. And you'd better. And you'll keep the rats out of my home for another generation or two.' He grunted. 'Alas that your kind live such short lives, convinced of their own rectitude and the mendacity of others. You've no respect for history. Could you not have inherited that from those whose empire first fed yours?'
Grombrindal is a specter. An apparition. A God in his own right. And he feeds off his legend. He spared Zeek so Grombrindal's story could spread further, to solidify his continued presence in the Mortal Realms.

There is so much interesting stuff in this short story. And IMO, it was pretty great.
 
Grombrindal is a specter. An apparition. A God in his own right. And he feeds off his legend. He spared Zeek so Grombrindal's story could spread further, to solidify his continued presence in the Mortal Realms.
If this is true, it would mean the rules about Faith feeding/creating gods (all kinds of "gods", not just the Chaos Gods) would be in play. Which would be pretty interesting.

I don't actually have a point to make, just wanted to note that
 
Maugan Ra's started a new Age of Sigmar quest.

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Unlikely Heroes (AoS Soulbound)

Thystra Fairwind is not a good woman. She is a sorceress, a criminal, a manipulator and a murderer. Yet sometimes the Mortal Realms do not need good men and women. Sometimes, they just need a hero. Besides, compared to the other lot she's downright normal.
 
One I liked was Sigmar blessing even hospice workers and others as Stormcast Eternals. It's that decency that anyone irrespective of Space Marine Eugenics has the potential to be greater idealized forms of themselves. GW pls give trans Stormcast I beg ye.
 
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One I liked was Sigmar blessing even hospice workers and others as Stormcasr Eternals. It's that decency that anyone irrespective of Space Marine Eugenics has the potential to be greater idealized forms of themselves. GW pls give trans Stormcast I beg ye.
There's a section on Stormcast in Soulbound which covers that:

"All Stormcast Eternals were once paragons of humanity. Many were warriors or wizards, but not all, for the skills of war can be taught, while honour, courage, or simple faith cannot." Page 21 Core Book

You can train someone to be strong and skilled in war, so the desire is to find someone who represents the best in people. At least to start with. They can tend to degrade with Reforging.

Also, I'm 100% certain that there are trans Stormcast, but if so then they're reforged into their desired gender. Hell, all Stormcast adopt a new name when becoming Stormcast, and their second name is a title usually derived from their deeds or discerning features. You don't ask a Stormcast who they used to be when alive, you just look at them as they are now.

Not that I wouldn't appreciate explicit acknowledgment of the concept, but the space is rife with possibility. I've been thinking of it for a loooong time, practically ever since I got into AoS.
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Thystra Fairwind is not a good woman. She is a sorceress, a criminal, a manipulator and a murderer. Yet sometimes the Mortal Realms do not need good men and women. Sometimes, they just need a hero. Besides, compared to the other lot she's downright normal.
Thanks. I'll check it out.
 
Just remembered a question I wanted to ask; what are/is Time of Tribulations? Or rather, when does it take place?
 
Time of Tribulations and Olynder
Just remembered a question I wanted to ask; what are/is Time of Tribulations? Or rather, when does it take place?
Time of Tribulations represents the shift from 1st to 2nd Edition AoS, covered in the Malign Portents campaign and supplement. The Campaign is scrubbed off the internet aside from archives and I'm still not sure if it's canon, but the actual supplement is 100% canon and coveres Nagash's preparations leading up to the Necroquake, which signals the start of 2nd Edition. AoS does these events towards the end of an Edition to welcome the new Edition and what its concept is centered around. 1st was mostly the Realmgate Wars, 2nd was the Necroquake and its aftermath, and 3rd is the Era of the Beast.

Anyways, Time of Tribulations refers to the time period before the Necroquake where the Realms were starting to see disturbances in the force as more and more dark omens began appearing. The Gods began forseeing a future full of mindless thralls slaved under Nagash's will, and none of them liked it. Not Destruction who wanted a good fight, not Order who opposed Nagash, and not Chaos who thought Nagash was boring and unpleasant. So they began sending Malign Portents to their prophetic followers and oracles who would lead armies into war in Shyish, attempting to stop the ritual of the Necroquake at the newly created Nagashizzar.

The story is full of twists and turns and includes a bunch of characters like Vorrus Starstrike, the Changeling, Darkoath Warqueen Marakarr Bloodsky and a kooky high off his nose Fungoid Cave Shaman, and represented in the Soul Wars novel, which I hear is good and covers the incident pretty well.

Anyways, there was a campaign system built off prophecies that was played around with and that is the Time of Tribulations. The Time of Tribulations ends when the Necroquake happens (and it doesn't go according to plan because Skaven), and that signals the "Arcanum Optimar", which is the name for the magical shockwave that forever changes magic in the realms, allows for Realm Magic and Artefacts to become more prominent, and creates Endless Spells. The Arcanum Optimar disrupts the workings of the Stormvaults and that starts the "Soul Wars", where hordes of undead Nighthaunt began raising across the Realms thanks to the Necroquake and Nagash leads them from his Shyish Nadir through his Mortarch of Grief, Lady Olynder. She's a dastardly schemer who killed her husband to take over his kingdom and faked tears at his funeral but hid a smile beneath it. Nagash admired her perserverance and devious nature as she ruled her kingdom in Shyish, so Nagash offered her a position as ruler of Dolorum when he turned her Undead. He got pissed at her during the Age of Chaos when she decided to parley with Chaos, but he also respected her because that's the reason he chose her to represent him. She's devious.

So he made her a Mortarch, which as the thread knows places someone under his total control, and he forces her to feel every ounce of Grief across all the Realms because he knows that she never truly felt it in her life. Nagash has a sadistic sense of humor like that.

Anyways, the Soul Wars occurs when the Nighthaunt begin fighting against the magic Sancrosanct Chamber of the Stormcast, who previously were looking over the Anvil of Apotheosis and overseeing reforging. Now they're in the Realms fighting Malignants (AoS name for ethereal undead) and Daemons using their magic.

This got away from me. But I guess it serves well as a basic overview of a few things. I've skipped some details here and there and went a bit too in depth about Olynder. TBH I like her. She is a genuinely interesting female character that I don't think is some weird mysoginistic punchline like some characters (Emmanuelle von Liebwitz) in Warhammer Fantasy ended up being. She also gets some Ws and has a rivalry with Be'lakor, which is a very interesting dynamic. She's smart and strong and devious and has aspects to her personality beyond pure evil. She's a self obsessed tyrant and likely narcisstic and self absorbed, which is why she has never felt grief before Nagash forced her. She only cares about other people as an extension of her control over them, which she loves.
 
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This got away from me. But I guess it serves well as a basic overview of a few things. I've skipped some details here and there and went a bit too in depth about Olynder. TBH I like her. She is a genuinely interesting female character that I don't think is some weird mysoginistic punchline like some characters (Emmanuelle von Liebwitz) in Warhammer Fantasy ended up being. She also gets some Ws and has a rivalry with Be'lakor, which is a very interesting dynamic. She's smart and strong and devious and has aspects to her personality beyond pure evil. She's a self obsessed tyrant and likely narcisstic and self absorbed, which is why she has never felt grief before Nagash forced her. She only cares about other people as an extension of her control over them, which she loves.
She does seem pretty cool. I've just started reading "Lady of Sorrows", and although she's only appeared once so far she's left quite an impression.
 
She does seem pretty cool. I've just started reading "Lady of Sorrows", and although she's only appeared once so far she's left quite an impression.
Something you have to remember about Black Library novels is that they have one rule. Special Characters can never die permanently. This is an ironclad rule, and also one that gives them all Plot Armor. To some, that is annoying.

The ways that different authors work around it is different. Many books take the concept that the Special Character is included in the story, but they're not the MC. Instead they're a contributing factor that gives you a glimpse into who they are and what their impact on the world looks like. The other way is to make them the MC and give them plot armor, which can be excused if the story is good.

Dynasty of Monsters did the first method with Laucha Vai. The Hallowed Knights novels does the second method with Mannfred and Gardus.
 
Something you have to remember about Black Library novels is that they have one rule. Special Characters can never die permanently. This is an ironclad rule, and also one that gives them all Plot Armor. To some, that is annoying.
Oh it fine for me. The "Special Characters" might be the reason why I read the book, but I like following the stories of others dealing with them (however that might be).
 
I was reminded of the Fimir, and that for some reason their only appearance in AoS was as part of the Destruction Grand Alliance.

I'd like to imagine they got tried of playing second fiddle to human in the Chaos's God's favor, and swore to Gorkamorka instead. Could be an interesting story
 
Something you have to remember about Black Library novels is that they have one rule. Special Characters can never die permanently. This is an ironclad rule, and also one that gives them all Plot Armor. To some, that is annoying.

The ways that different authors work around it is different. Many books take the concept that the Special Character is included in the story, but they're not the MC. Instead they're a contributing factor that gives you a glimpse into who they are and what their impact on the world looks like. The other way is to make them the MC and give them plot armor, which can be excused if the story is good.

Dynasty of Monsters did the first method with Laucha Vai. The Hallowed Knights novels does the second method with Mannfred and Gardus.
Gardus Steelsoul is a little weird in that he was a novel character before he became a special character. So plot armor is really only a thing in his newest novels.
 
Gardus Steelsoul is a little weird in that he was a novel character before he became a special character. So plot armor is really only a thing in his newest novels.
Technically he was one of the central three characters of the Realmgate Wars from the Stormcast. Vandus Hammerhand for the Hammers of Sigmar, Gardus Steel Soul for the Hallowed Knights, and Thostos Bladestorm for the Celestial Vindictors.

Of course, only Vandus got a warscroll and model and only several years after the books came out. RIP Thostos Bladestorm but he's in Dorghar's stomach. Having survived a delve into Nurgle's Garden, there was no way they were going to kill Gardus. He was one of the Stormcast' poster boys.

He also reps the catchiest catchphrase for the Stormcast. "Only the Faithful!" is pretty hype.
 
Reading Broken Realms Kragnos. I love Doralia ven Denst:
'It's well known that you Stormcasts are tough,' she said. 'Are you immune to poison?'

'Not this kind,' came the reply. The White Reaper staggered, then, and sank to one knee.

'Up, Lord Sentanus,' said Doralia. 'The city needs you more than ever.'

The Stormcast did not reply but instead slumped with eyes unfocused, one hand in the gutter. Galen jumped down from his hunting-nest on the roof above, a trio of severed rat's tails in one hand. 'That doesn't look good,' he muttered. She cast him a glance, her lips pursed, and mouthed, 'It isn't.'

'My lord, we cannot yield,' she said. 'Who can possibly save this benighted place? Only the faithful, is that not your credo?'

Sentanus looked up at her, a spark of fire in his eyes once more. 'That's the Hallowed Knights, dolt. I am a Knight Excelsior.'

'Is it?' said Doralia innocently. 'Are they the ones who never give up?'
She reminds me a lot of Mathilde (from Divided Loyalties on this website). Probably a good part of why I like her so much.

Overall I like Galen and Doralia. It's nice to see such competent mundane humans in the setting. I hope to see more characters like them in the future.
 
May I ask if the ghoul courts have some kind of agenda or higher purpose, or some guiding force, or are they effectively natural disasters?
 
May I ask if the ghoul courts have some kind of agenda or higher purpose, or some guiding force, or are they effectively natural disasters?
They do. They all believe themselves to have a higher purpose. Some of the older courts have a connection to Ushoran, while other Courts are often mockeries of the Kingdoms they originated from. Each one has a purpose and goal set, and most are noble in theory. In practice it's delusional and they fall prey to their instincts, and their curse justifies it. They view themselves as knights slicing down monsters in a righteous battle even when it's the opposite.

Some examples. Blisterskin are from Aqshy and they're the remnants of a long dead sun worshipping empire who spread their beliefs. Unfortunately the way they spread it is pretty twisted. Hollowmourne are descendants of heavily armoured mounted knights from Chamon who seek to regain the lost artefacts of their dead empire. Gristlegore are a hunter tribe from Ghur who view themselves as exemplars of tranquility, but are in fact bestial and savage in their ferocity. Morgaunt are driven by their unshakeable belief in their long dead chivalric code, and they hold a certain compassion and loyalty to each other and to their Serfs (the Flesh Eater term for low ranking soldiers, typically Ghouls). Morgaunt primarily protect their domain and soveriegnty, and are some of the oldest and largest Courts.

Notably, the Tenebrous Court in Stygxx worked with the City of Lethis to fight back against the Nighthaunt invasion during the Siege of Lethis, which has created a tenous alliance between the city and the Court.

If Ushoran came back, he'd likely be able to lead the Courts as he is the progenitor of the Mordant curse. Mordants also view the process of spreading their curse as a form of enlightenment, letting people perceive reality as it truly exists. They believe themselves benevolent and welcome additions to their Courts.
 
They do. They all believe themselves to have a higher purpose. Some of the older courts have a connection to Ushoran, while other Courts are often mockeries of the Kingdoms they originated from. Each one has a purpose and goal set, and most are noble in theory. In practice it's delusional and they fall prey to their instincts, and their curse justifies it. They view themselves as knights slicing down monsters in a righteous battle even when it's the opposite.
I probably should have phrased that better- I knew that they hallucinate being noble defenders of the realm, and also that they are, in reality, absolutely out of their minds. I more meant if there's any rhyme or reason to their actions and movements in the real (not in the lurid dreamland they inhabit), or if their insanity leads them in pointless loops. But thanks for the quick answer nonetheless.

So to clarify- they are, effectively, mobile, screaming, ravenous, self replicating natural disasters that happen to be deluding themselves into believing otherwise, but if the Strigoi progenitor turns up, that could change?

Edit: (I do think they are the coolest in AoS, in the same fashion I think WHF Druchi are cool, if monstrous in form and function.)
 
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So to clarify- they are, effectively, mobile, screaming, ravenous, self replicating natural disasters that happen to be deluding themselves into believing otherwise, but if the Strigoi progenitor turns up, that could change?
Pretty much. But there is a level of being able to reason with them. The Tenebrous Court is an example. I'm also pretty sure there are other examples. I only read the 2016 book, and that was very early on in AoS' lifespan. The lore develops significantly with each new installment, making things more and more reasonable.

I will say that Ghouls are like, the least of Order's problems from the Grand Alliance of Death. They tend to cause the least problems.
 
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