An Exploration of the Mortal Realms: An Age of Sigmar Thread

Neat neat neat.

Also second quick question; when are you going to discuss Freeguilds? Probably quite a bit later, if I guess
 
Neat neat neat.

Also second quick question; when are you going to discuss Freeguilds? Probably quite a bit later, if I guess
I have a rough mental guideline for where I want to go, so I can't really say. I'm thinking the next post will be delving into the basic timeline/story beats and then going through the out of universe history of Age of Sigmar and some of its development. There will be a post on mechanics at one point, then I might do an "Every Army in Age of Sigmar Explained" where I go over the broad strokes of every army. Depending on how I feel, I might transition into specific factions or specific story arcs, or go for something more general. I'm planning to find out by doing them.

Freeguilds will be covered whenever I do Cities of Sigmar, which is... hefty.
 
Guess what? I have more questions.

Darkling Coverns. Apparently they're a secret, but they have a army list and fight alongside Cities of Sigmar. How does that work? How hidden are they really? Do they just turn up out of nowhere to help in fights? Or is their AL list more about putting old WHF models somewhere

Spoiler for possible future quest;
I have an idea that Sigmar knows about the DLCs, but tolerates them. If the players choose a Darkling Sorcerer as their character, Sigmar straight up revals he knows about the Covens, and forces they into agreeing to do a task for him
 
Guess what? I have more questions.

Darkling Coverns. Apparently they're a secret, but they have a army list and fight alongside Cities of Sigmar. How does that work? How hidden are they really? Do they just turn up out of nowhere to help in fights? Or is their AL list more about putting old WHF models somewhere

Spoiler for possible future quest;
I have an idea that Sigmar knows about the DLCs, but tolerates them. If the players choose a Darkling Sorcerer as their character, Sigmar straight up revals he knows about the Covens, and forces they into agreeing to do a task for him
If you want a good worldbuilding resource for stuff like that, the core Soulbound RPG book is a good one. It gives a brief overview on many of the Free City organisations.

In terms of the Darkling Covens, it should be noted that the Darkling Sorceresses are the highest level, and they are not the only ones in this group. There are hordes of soldiers and thralls that fall under the Covenite Sorceresses who serve as the hencheman and servants of the group when they need something done, and they have lots of spies, informants and double agents and use a mixture of bribery, blackmail and mind controlling magic to assert their will. Mind control is a pretty essential part of their kit I should say, and I should also note that Ulgu explicitly has mind control powers. The Darkling Covens consists of Executioners, Darkshards, Dreadspears, Bleakswords and Black Guard alongside the Sorceresses.

This is probably partly because the Lore of Dark Magic is no longer used by the Aelves. Dark Aelves (or their equivalent) use the Lore of Shadow, Ulgu, while the Lumineth Realm Lords use the Lore of Hysh instead of High Magic, with some additional associated lores.

If you want to reconcile the secret aspect with the fact that they participate in fights, you can easily justify it with a mix of thralls, mind magic, intrigue, background skullduggery, and a number of different methods. If a Sorceress pops up in the field, she may be notable, but illusion is their specialty.

The reason the Darkling Covens are largely secret is because they never really integrated with Azyrite culture when they migrated over to Azyrheim back during the Age of Chaos, so they sought to seed their influence in the background and avoid the Order of Azyr, who are the Witch Hunter equivalents of the Free Cities.
 
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Final question for the day; could I make posts about some ideas for factions and characters and such on here?
 
Soooo Cathay. I think they'd fit well in AoS, for numerous reasons. I suspect it'll be a while before they show up, even in new Fantasy, so I'll just make stuff up for now.

During the breaking of the World That Was, the Dragon Emperor & Empress hurled their children into the void, to save them. The Dragon Children became separated, but eventually were drawn into the Mortal Realms, in particular those that they resonated the most with. There they tried to rebuild Cathay, each in their own image or idea of what it should be, until they were reconnected. However during the Age of Chaos they became separated again.
Some of the dragons;
  • Miao Ying, the Storm Dragon - Azyr, her kingdom obviously survived unaffected. Aids Sigmar by sending out her children and forces
  • Zhao Ming, the Iron Dragon - Chamon, rules(/d) his own sub-realm, famous for it's metal autonima. Currently under siege by forces of Tzeentch, locked up in his workshop. May or may not be making deals with Skaven
  • Yuan Bo, the Jade Dragon - Ghyran, ruled a large and sprawling empire, which was devastated by forces of Nurgle. Yuan Bo was poisoned and fled to a secret location, where they are currently in a coma
  • Li Dao, the Fire Dragon - Aqshy, killed by Archaon during AoC
Also of note are the Dragon-Blooded, children of the Dragon Emperors with other races. The magic infused nature of the Mortal Realms means that the oldest among them can transform into dragon forms.

Also Yin and Yang are still a thing. Cathay factions draw upon them, striving for Harmony, and each realm is connected to one of them;
Yin Realms; Ulgu, Azyr, Ghyran, Shyish
Yang Realms: Aqshy, Chamon, Hysh, Ghur
(Ghyran and Shyish being Yin is odd, but I figured because they are both more... passive? Does that make sense)
 
  • Miao Ying, the Storm Dragon - Azyr, her kingdom obviously survived unaffected. Aids Sigmar by sending out her children and forces
  • Zhao Ming, the Iron Dragon - Chamon, rules(/d) his own sub-realm, famous for it's metal autonima. Currently under siege by forces of Tzeentch, locked up in his workshop. May or may not be making deals with Skaven
  • Yuan Bo, the Jade Dragon - Ghyran, ruled a large and sprawling empire, which was devastated by forces of Nurgle. Yuan Bo was poisoned and fled to a secret location, where they are currently in a coma
If we're going by Cathay's material that GW/CA have put out, Miao Ying is Ghyran and Yuan Bao is Azyr.

(Because Ghyran is Water in Cathay and Azyr is Stone)
 
Why is that, exactly? I remember something about Chinese myths equating lightning with life, or similar
Ghyran is Water in Cathay, which is very much a life thing. Lightning is only a manifestation of an extended aspect of Water. I recommend checking out Wu Xing theory and the Eight Triagrams if you want to learn more. It would probably help you visualise things better.
 
Also of use, apparently; the WHF wiki;
The Cathayans perceive the 8 winds of magic as Elemental Winds. Corresponding to the Old World they are: Water (Lore of Life), Fire (Lore of Fire), Wood (Lore of Beasts), Metal (Lore of Metal), Stone (Lore of Heavens), Light (Lore of Light), Spirit (Lore of Death) and Darkness (Lore of Shadows). The Cathayan Dragons are masters of all the elements and practice "Feng Shi" which is effectively High Magic. The Shugengan practice the lores of Yin and Yang which consists of a certain amalgamation or divisions of the Eight Winds. The Lore of Yin is composed of the lores of Beasts, Metal, Death and Shadows whereas the lore of Yang is a combination of the lores of Life, Fire, Heavens and light. The Dragon Emperor has ultimate mastery of the Lore of Yang and the Moon Empress is the master of the Lore of Yin.

Edit; want to find the source of this
 
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Source seems to be, indeed, Andy Hall. In particular a talk he did with Loremaster of Sotek and Great Book of Grudges. I'll be taking it as cannon then... but I'm very tempted to shift things around so they make more sense
 
Soooo apparently Halfling exist in the Mortal Realms, but there's basically nothing on them.

Another thing added to the "Expand Upon" file...
 
Soooo apparently Halfling exist in the Mortal Realms, but there's basically nothing on them.

Another thing added to the "Expand Upon" file...
There is no official mention of them that I've managed to find. They can exist in the same way that every type of creature could exist in the Mortal Realms, because it's a realm of endless possibility. There was one person who got their army featured in Warhammer Community, but that is not an endorsement of canonical events.
 
Aren't there non chaos centaurs and fauns in AOS, in ghyran or ghur specifically? I couldn't find much on them but that sticks out to me as noteworthy.
 
So sylvaneth are not jus elves with leaves for hair? What makes someone a sylvaneth then? Is it like a politcal party for nature lovers? Could I hypothetically join if I lived in the Mortal Realms?
 
So sylvaneth are not jus elves with leaves for hair? What makes someone a sylvaneth then? Is it like a politcal party for nature lovers? Could I hypothetically join if I lived in the Mortal Realms?
The Sylvaneth are Sapient Trees. So no, you can't join them if you aren't a plant.
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I don't know why that includes things like Fauns, but that's the army-list I have seen them on
 
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So centaurs are trees now? They don't look anything like trees, they've got fur and skin and stuff?
 
So centaurs are trees now? They don't look anything like trees, they've got fur and skin and stuff?
AH, I see what the confusion was now.
They are Kurnothi, which is usually included as a sub-set of the Sylvaneth faction, but is actually a different thing.
The Sylvaneth worship Alarielle and Kurnoth, the Kurnothi worship Kurnoth. So there is some overlap and some Sylvaneth are included as Kurnothi, etc.
 
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So humans and dwarves who worship Kurnoth couldn't join then?
 
There are human and elf Kurnothi, not sure about dwarfs.
Also, iirc GW always spells Dwarfs with an F rather than a V.
Not that it matters, since AoS Dwarves are Duardin.
Aren't there non chaos centaurs and fauns in AOS, in ghyran or ghur specifically? I couldn't find much on them but that sticks out to me as noteworthy.
I mentioned the Kurnothi before, but there are other centaurs. The Drogurkh race of which Kragnos is a part of is an example, but they're all dead with the exception of Kragnos.

You know, I don't think I mentioned him in this thread. I really should. He's one of the centrepieces of the latest Edition. Long story short is that he's the Living Earthquake and End of Empires, a god who started mortal and ascended into a diety through his deeds and the worship of the forces of destruction who saw him as an Avatar to aspire to become closer to. There's more to him than that, but that's the general overview.
 
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