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Canto II: The Unloving (Part 2) - Dance Like You Wanna Win!
The Sinners burst into the casino, ready to mount their daring heist.



The security guards recognise the gang's Tingtang getup on sight and simply give them nods of acknowledgement while Saude and Effie, still dressed as croupiers, swiftly escort Rodion to the casino cage - presumably to pick up the chips she'll need for the buy-in at the top floor. Dante is amazed watching the two of them work, everything from their expressions to their body language seeming to fit their disguises to a T. For the moment the Sinners are left to mill about in the lobby and wait.


Sadly there are not new talksprites for the gang to reflect their Tingtang getup.

Gregor: "Try not to go saucer-eyed at everything like a fascinated kid, Don Quixote. You'll seem fishy..."
Ishmael: "The guests here look dead inside with their dim eyes, and they smell worse than the Tingtang schmucks we faced. Do they even wash..."
Gregor: "I don't think they'd be too happy about you holding your nose right before their faces, Ishmael..."
Ishmael: "But, this is the kind of bilgy stench I'd only ever caught from deckhands..."

Ishmael might consider herself well-travelled but she ain't travelled far enough if she doesn't know just how bad gambling addictions can get, let alone here in the Backstreets where even the remotest restriction or safeguard on siphoning the money and wishes from the pockets of the unfortunate has doubtless been removed long ago. Especially down here on the ground floor, where clearly the primary attraction is slot machines going by the background CG - truly not even the barest veneer of skill or ability to assess probability, you just sit down in front of the addiction box and pull the lever until your brain has been warped forever.

Oh hi gacha mechanics-


Don and tiktok brainrot stimulation, name a more volatile duo.

Don Quixote: "What must I do to hear the jolly bells as the other patrons are?"
Dante: <I don't think I've been to one of these places before, so I wouldn't know...>

Hey wait a second how does Don not know what a slot machine is. Like she's smol but she objected in what seemed to be legitimate frustration when Rodya implied she's young, and she's the only Sinner besides Ishmael to have the Fixer Identification Number on her ID card filled in.

Narration: Looking at all the flashy symbols and numbers spinning had slowly eroded my resolve to act the part of a stern manager.
Dante: <I, I guess a little peek is fine?>

Could Don really have just not encountered gambling before in her travels across the City? Maybe if we assume that J Corp is like, The One Gambling District, but even if there's a high concentration of it there that doesn't mean the 'culture' and tech of J Corp hasn't spread all over the City. Wing products proliferate everywhere, that's capitalism baby! And no way in hell a place like this regulates gambling to the point only the Backstreets has it.

Don Quixote: "It says here to press the button! Is pressing it what one ought to do?"

Maybe if she consciously spurned it as amoral, a vice that would distract her from her righteous duties, but she clearly has a completely surface-level, naive fascination with all the flashing colours and lights and spinny-



Uh-oh.

Narration: The hand I'd swiftly outstretched to stop Don Quixote from touching the machine unexpectedly fumbled and landed smack on the button-
Dante: <Yikes!>
Narration: -and in an unpredictable series of coincidences, someone had left a token in it, enough for one game.

Meanwhile, literally just across the room, leaving Dante and the Sinners unattended for all of two minutes;



Effie: "That manager? It was the only favour we asked of them, they'd better be doing a good job."
Rodion: "You can count on Dante, dear duo~ They're one of the few sensible pals who gets what's up."
Saude: "That's good to hear. With so many sheets attached, they should be able to win any game with ease. We just need to be careful not to draw attention here."




Narration: Waves of casino chips plunged from the machine, so many that I wouldn't dare try to gather them up.


Big lmao that Dante made sure to grab a red hawaiian shirt so their disguise still fit their aesthetic. If they swapped shirts with Don they'd be in Christmas colours.

Narration: I came here determined to do something right, and it fell apart all so soon.

Being Durante Is Suffering.

Other patrons of the casino begin rubbernecking, jolted from their addiction-fuelled reveries at the realisation that waltzing into a casino and hitting the jackpot on your first game is some freak shit. Unfortunately, security comes to much the same realisation, and approach to administer an ID check.


Yes, even though they make more money than God they get really upset with you and kick you out if you're too good at the games where human skill is a factor, because scam merchants always feel deeply entitled to your money.

Faust: "Chance in this place doesn't work the way we think it usually does. You could accumulate your luck for a big payout or trickle in small amounts to break even, but winning the jackpot on your first try should be a literal impossibility here."

Faust explains that, of course, to make it slightly more unfair than even real life casinos, control over the 'lesser singularity' of J Corp means that this casino is fixed so that you engage with the push and pull of the wishpower economy or you get fucked.

Don Quixote: "Chips are raining down like shooting stars!"

Don, presumably, is eating casino chips like chocolate coins.



Ishmael: "I'm disappointed. You're none other than our manager, and I expected you to show your capability and clear the disgrace of failure from us."
Narration: Ishmael's barrage of scathing whispers was something to marvel at, as Gregor muttered in awe. On top of that, her piercing gaze I had never felt before... it made me want to weasel away under a rock, if there was one. For once, I thanked my clock for lacking eyes to meet her glare.

Executive Manager Dante rolls Worst-Timed Poker Jackpot, asked to Kill Themself Immediately.

Of course it may not just be Dante's fault the Sinners are suddenly getting far too much scrutiny, as Gregor hurriedly points out. For when Dante turns to look and see what he sees...


Regrettably a joke that doesn't land as hard without a custom talksprite or a CG of her out of disguise.

Ryoshu, still in her LCB fit, because she just didn't put on a gangster outfit and walked in at the back of the pack and nobody noticed.

Gregor: "Gah... Manager Bud, today isn't our day, huh..."
Dante: <Yup... looks like we're screwed. Royally...>
Effie: "This can't be... All the work we did to put this plan in motion... Faust, what were you thinking volunteering to bring these fools along for your missions? You're supposed to have near-unparalelled brilliance, right? Then use it!"
Faust: "Even though I haven't worked with them for long, I was able to realise something: I ought to become a Faust that believes in uncertainty."



Faust: "That is what my 'plan' entails."


Effie: "I have GOT to kill myself."

Dante: <Alright... It's time for our usual gig...>


That's the spirit, Dante! Go girl, give us pessimism.

A brief fight with casino security ensues, but I'll skip over it for now in favour of moving to the next map node, which has a slightly more notable one.



In fact, Ryoshu is just as bored with the trash mob battles as me if not moreso, her eyes inexplicably glowing bright red not unlike Vergilius' - she can just Do That.



This is honestly the most pressed we have ever seen Ryoshu, she's more pissed about having to fight security guards than she is about getting her skull cored out by Don's lance.


This is definately payback for the decapitation in Canto I.

Ryoshu, surprisingly, only shakes her head with a look of complete confidence.

Ryoshu: "... This is art. Poetaster, gimme the knife."
Yi Sang: "You may forever take it from my hands. The blade will be better off parting ways to wander about the air for however long."


Blursed image.

Narration: Ryoshu held his dagger and threw it straight into the air. It struck an anchorage on the ceiling that kept the chandelier still, causing it to sway precariously.
Narration: Indeed... Ryoshu may be weakened from what she once was because she became a Sinner, but nevertheless... She was still the best swordswoman we had, able to cut through steel like a proverbial hot knife.
Narration: Sure, she treats my words with less respect than she would a wad of gum, but that wasn't a problem.
Narration: Everyone's eyes turned to the swinging chandelier... and eventually, flustered by all the gazes falling upon it...
Yi Sang: "Thus, in a haze, it succumbs."



Narration: The chandelier crashed to the floor in full force, making a tremendous noise.



Narration: Nothing else happened.



Dante: <So, uh, what was that for? Ryoshu?>
Ryoshu: "... a performance."
Gregor: "You just made that up, didn't you?"

Ryoshu has been getting some fantastic character moments and she still has a couple more in the works, it's quite remarkable.



Here we see the lobby battleground, complete with fallen chandelier in the background courtesy of Ryoshu. There are three kinds of Casino Security - Collected, Confident and Rigid. This lot have +2 Offence level, making them deceptively dangerous to clash against for the baby Sinners (we'll revisit that in a jiffy, don't think I missed that offhanded line while Ryoshu was beclowning herself), but more than that the brown-coated Casino Security have some utterly heinous coin effects that will effectively cripple a Sinner if they land - the blackjack-wielding Confident ones have Hold It Right There which inflicts two stacks of next-turn Power Down, a somewhat depreciated status that drops the Base Power of all skills the entity uses by the Count, and the baton-wielding Rigid ones have Freeze! which inflicts a whopping 4 Plus Coin Drop next turn. Plus Coin Drop is arguably the strongest status debuff in the game, as the vast majority of enemies flip positive coins and the benefits of reducing coin power are only magnified against multi-coin skills, the most dangerous kind. To put it into perspective there's a 2* ID we'll probably talk about after next Canto who is a sleeper powerhouse support unit if nothing else because of his ability to inflict 2 Plus Coin Drop next turn with his skill 2.

Then there's the Casino Security Chief, the one in the grey coat kind of concealed under the right side of the turn counter there. He has the third form of surprisingly nasty negative status effect he throws around with wanton abandon - a whole lotta next turn Paralyse! As I explained in the Canto I postscript paralyse fixes the power of X coins the entity flips that turn to 0, which is absolutely crippling for the base IDs who wager so much total skill power on their coins and have so few to throw around.



Another reason normal battles can be kind of frustrating is that the autotarget AI has almost no conception of what clashes are possible in your party's given speed ranges, so you end up taking completely needless one-sided attacks in the process. It's fine for our purposes, as it gives me another opportunity to illustrate a small detail - Don's flinching sprite is an interesting character choice for something that flies by so quickly. Rather than looking obliviously silly, or genuinely pressured, she leans into the oncoming blow with an expression of something like annoyance.

The battle ends in another victory, and the casino security guards slip away with their lives upon defeat instead of exploding into giblets.



Saude: "You all know that our goal is to win the game being held on the top floor, not reduce the ground floor of the casino to rubble, right?"

Dante and I agree that some of the Sinners definitely don't know or care.

Saude: "Not only must we reach the top, we also have to win the game as our objective states... Thus, we need the wishpower to make it happen."


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Outis asks where best the group can procure more wishpower from their immediate environs, and Saude points out the roulette table near to the entrance - people tend to pop into the casino daily to test their luck there, so it will have naturally accumulated a steady trickle of wishpower.

Dante: <Think you can pull that off?>
Outis: I have carried out countless operations much greater in scale."
Outis: "Your preposterous blunder amounts to nothing in the grander scheme of things, Manager. It has to have been the fault of the drudging dredges who obfuscated your ability to make sensible decisions! Don't let their words deter you!"
Dante: <Preposterous... I see... Wait!>

God, fuck. Even Outis can't fully brush aside that dipshit move with the slot machine, she's just spinning it as 'listening to the other Sinners (derogatory) temporarily rendered you A Fucking Imbecile, executive manager, you can't be blamed for such psychohazards'.

Meanwhile, Heathcliff is already making a mad dash for the entrance.

Narration: Were we too focused on the conversation, or did we collectively lose our minds?

Dante calls after Heathcliff to ask what the fuck he's doing, but Heathcliff shoots back urging the group to stop chattering and get a move on heading upstairs already. Then, making his inexplicable behaviour yet more mad-seeming, he turns and heckles the casino security within an inch of their lives.



Heathcliff: "That blondie over there is a rookie who's as unfledged as he gets. And that mate there we call our manager has a bad case of lost memories and can't wield a weapon to save themself. This is what you're struggling against? What a joke..."

Dante and Sinclair mutually wail and sob and cry and throw up to have been subjected to such bitter invectives.

Heathcliff: "And last thing, that club you're holding deserves a better owner."



The security chief rushes forward in a rage, swinging for Heathcliff's skull...


Hey you have a Counter not an Evade, I call foul.


Saude is genuinely edging her aneurysm like it's 11pm on the 30th of November and she's ready to pop if the wind blows the wrong way.

Narration: Spouts of what I assume was once wishpower until moments ago poured through the poor remains of the roulette. As if in death throes, Saude let out an agonised scream before clapping her hands over her mouth... I couldn't help but turn away from the tragic sight.
Narration: "When I grow up, I wanna be a wish sticker, giving hope to everybody!" I could almost hear the unfilfilled dreams of those lost wishes in my imagination.

The even funnier thing is that this wasn't an accident. Oh no. Heathcliff has a plan.

Heathcliff: "Oi, listen up, you thickos. Do you want to admit to your boss 'bout breaking this thing while fighting us and get lambasted for it? Or do you want to make it our fault and let us through?"
Rigid Security: "T-this was... a month's worth of luck..."
Security Chief: "... it won't be any safer for you upstairs..."
Heathcliff: "Eh, never been too close to safety anyway. 'Preciate the advice."

Heathcliff may have destroyed our backup source of wishpower, but he did so in service to a genuine Soul-Read of the security chief that secured the party an exit to the next floor of the casino rather than subjecting us to grinding through every security guard in the building. Heathcliff truly out here illustrating the difference between Intelligence and Wisdom, even if he doesn't get credit for it.

Heathcliff returns and expectantly asks Dante to heal his shoulder, dislocated by a mere graze from the security chief's baton. Dante can only stare at him blankly, perhaps looping back around to Numbed By The Horrors.



Faust: "Took you long enough to realise."
Effie: "Faust... This is one of those times when it's better to keep your mouth shut."

The group proceed upstairs to the next floor.
 
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The vibe of the casino changes in the blink of an eye, Faust immediately recognising that this floor must have been particularly personalised by one of the four stake-holding Syndicates. A member of said Syndicate fast approaches to prove true her theory.


Yes, fucking mariachi men.

Mariachi Alegre: "Don't you know the rules here? Sour looks are a no-no, so put a hat over your long face!"


Ryoshu: "i have never been happy in my life and i REFUSE to start now"

Mariachi Alegre: "What's that mean!?"
Ryoshu: "Snap your neck completely, that's what."
Dante: <Easy, Ryoshu... You shouldn't be so prone to starting fights->
Mariachi: "Ey, never mind that. This one has an even more problematic face, no? Which hand is supposed to be your eyes?"

There is an earthshattering fucking vineboom sound effect.

Dante: <... Ryoshu, are you ready?>
Ryoshu: "You bet, Dante."

There's a quick 'introductory' fight, mixing one of the mariachi variants in with casino security, but we skip past that to the second node of this floor.



Bawling Casinogoer: "I lost once again, damn! When will this end?"
Mariachi Alegre: "Oye, espara, time out! Our dear customer here needs a little care! Dear customer, I hope you haven't forgotten our rule, have you?"
Bawling Casinogoer: "B-but... That was all the money I had..."
Mariachi Alegre: "If you keep dampening the mood of the table, we might throw a pañata party out of you."

Gregor and Dante wonder in voices of hushed, whispered horror what vile torture a pañata party might be, what sick twisted punishments the Mariachi mete out upon their hapless victims for the crime of displeasure in their den of sin. The weeping, destitute casinogoer slowly stands up from their seat, and...

Begins dancing with a pair of loaned maracas, sobbing all the while.

No, really.



Mariachi Vivaz: "Gambling is entertainment, an activity done purely for fun; thus, all the sadness and pain brought to you must be sublimated into dance."

Don leaps at the chance to prove that she is the best at fun, just the absolute peak, nobody more pure and righteous than her. She dances for the Mariachi.

But alas, they find her wanting.

Mariachi Alegre: "This one won't do."
Mariachi Vivaz: "Her movement is insincere."



Mariachi Alegre: "Dance is a window to the heart."
Mariachi Vivaz: "Without a clear and pure heart, it loses all meaning."
Don Quixote: "..."



I cannot overstate the mismatch between the talksprite chosen for Don in this moment and Kim Yea-lim's delivery. Her voice drops a full octave or two, her rejection of the Mariachi's assessment a whisper-quiet mutter bereft of emotion save traces of anger.

Then we cut away to Saude writing a letter of apology in advance for the property damage and general carnage that we're about to inflict upon the Mariachi's level lmao



Behold: Mariachi!

There are two variants of Mariachi, the Vivaz and the Alegre, as you might have surmised from the cutscene. What you might not have so easily guessed is that their workplace obsession with Good Vibes is mechanically represented in their kits in the form of some potentially heinous advantages through direct SP manipulation. Both variants have a basic skill, Bailemos, with the effect of raising their SP by 2 each hit - this means steady SP gain even from unopposed attacks which may happen because autotarget RNGeezus fucked you, and god help you if you're unlucky enough to lose a clash against it and feed them a whopping 16-18 SP. Next is Danza de Paz, a skill of deadly implication solely because it applies 1 Defence Power Up to all allies next turn on use, so it doesn't even matter if you beat it in a clash or not. This synergises nastily with ¡Olé!, their Evade - which damages the attacker's SP by 5 points on every successful dodge.



Bad enough if you target it with a strong single-coin and fail, so much worse if you have the misfortune of getting a multicoin redirected straight into it. Here you can even explicitly see the synergy in effect - ¡Olé! has a Base Power of 2, so Gregor should have still hit anyway, but because the Alegre had been buffed with Danza de Paz the previous turn he is able to meet Gregor's minimum roll and dodge it anyway. Finally they have Duelo de Baile, which drains 5 SP from the target on Clash Win and then to add insult to injury throws a fat 2 Attack Power Down on them next turn.

Mariachi Vivaz have slightly different kits, sharing Bailemos and Duelo de Baile but swapping the evade and defence power buff for Danza de Emoción - which gives them 1 Attack Power Up next turn, again on use so clashing can't prevent it - and Puñales Joviales. This is a kind of 'nuke skill' that cashes in on Mariachi Alegre's ability to attack your Sinners' SP directly, being a four-coin skill with a base power boost against targets below 0 SP. Its raw numbers are terrible, but with the SP advantage this faction are capable of building they can snowball hard if you don't have the means to overpower them just as hard, only faster.

The Sinners are able to overcome the onslaught of Mariachi, but it's slow going, and they don't much like their chances at forcing their way through.



Ishmael: "We're going to need to touch their hearts with a powerful dance."
Dante: <As you all know, my memories are hazy, so... dance, is it...? Can't say I'm all too familiar.>



Narration: Of course, I haven't actually forgotten what dance is, but there's no need to be too honest about it, is there?

Dante is a genderless loser and they'll goldbrick to get out of something embarrassing? They just like me fr fr.



What follows is a hilarious CG integration as each Sinner's cut-in portrait appears one by one as they're called upon to dance, steadily filling up the black void.



Dante: <We aren't gonna find them here. Next.>
Heathcliff: "Well, I did step on a good few feet of snobbish aristocrats at balls."


Dude same.

Ishmael: "... me? I spent half of my life on a ship."
Don Quixote: "Dance is where I-!" muffled "Hrrmph! Cease this relentless obstruction of my words!"
Ryoshu: "A sword dance for the first time in a while sounds bad. I'll kill it on the floor."


Outis genuinely sounds more terrified of trying to dance on Dante's orders than of standing up to Vergilius who can and would reduce her entire body to mulch in seconds, rapid-fire muttering her line like she's entering shock-induced dissociation.

Rodion: "W-well, Dante... I'm good at most things, buuut, my dancing is kinda... embarrassing... Hahaha!"
Gregor: "I don't mind, except my arm might rage out of control from the stimuation and charge for the audience's heads."

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Meursault (Meursault) - Meursault: Meursault

Faust: "Faust doesn't necessarily enjoy dancing for leisure, but I could gladly perform a routine if it's for the mission's sake. However, it's not technical perfection they want. They're looking for something unstable and unpolished, rather..."


Vineboom.

Sinclair: "Wha!?"
Rodion: "You busted a move or two as a kid, didn't you?"
Sinclair: "B-bust? I suppose I... took a basic maracas course at school as a liberal arts class..."

Dante is flabbergasted that Rodion was able to soul-read that out of Sinclair. Rodion casually remarks she could smell the Rich Boy on him from the way he walks and talks.

Rodion: "On the other hand, uncultured ones... Fpheh... it shows, y'know?"



Being glomped by Rodion would fix me maybe.

Rodion: " 'Kay now~ My little Sinclair, I have a very, veeeeery important task for you."
Sinclair: "Huh? Hey? Rodya? Where are you..."



Dante: <Sinclair... You can do this.>
Ishmael: "Yeah, think of all the times when Heathcliff trampled over you..."
Dante: <Are you ALWAYS on>
Sinclair: "I, I'm..."



Rodion: "Wrong question, Sinclair. This is something only you can do."

Sinclair nods.



This game is a 10- where the fuck did Ryoshu and Meursault get that ukelele and pan pipes.

Mariachi Vivaz: "It's calm... yet it's the calmness that stirs my heart... This young man - he's channeling something from within... How sublime..."
Mariachi Vivaz: "He's fighting repressed darkness and inner turmoil with the body's motion...!"
Mariachi Vivaz: "Ohhh... The embers linger in glowing ash... heating the rhythm... for gestures to be struck along... This conjures an image, one of a bonfire that has burnt through the whole night! And we are witnessing the cotillion of ash dancing atop its remnant!"

The Mariachis are so impressed by Sinclair's Soulful White Boy dancing that they genuinely offer him a job in the Syndicate, only to be shut down by Saude who is suddenly convinced that that's "valuable talent" that the Mariachi are threatening to headhunt without permission. This scene is just the fucking most, Project Moon contains multitudes.



Mariachi Vivaz: "You may pass. You have earned the right."
Mariachi Elgre: "Be warned, though, the folk upstairs won't be as reasonable. They have no concept of festivity in their heads."

Sinclair rejoins the group, strangely invigorated by the dance to the point he's forgotten why he thought it would be hard. Dante's curiosity is piqued by what the Mariachis saw in his dance, wondering what kind of hardship a young man like him could've gone through already, but the team's ascent to the top of the casino takes priority for now.

What darkness lies in his past? It's probably not important, we won't hear about that again anytime soon.

Up another floor we reach the domain of the Tieqiu Crew - kinda makes me wonder why the lobby was generic Casino Security, maybe that was meant to be the Tingtang Zone and we just stomped them all on the way in already. Or they deliberately chose the car pagoda right outside instead of a piece of real estate in the building proper. Anyhoo, more quirky sociopaths to smoosh our existing quirky sociopaths into!



Flexing Crewman: "D'you fellers have any idea what you've just walked into?"
Threatening Crewman: "Try mucking about and we'll make the most acrobatic poses known to man outta you."
Flexing Crewman: "Then we'll lop off your digits by the joint and make purdy mahjong tiles with 'em."


Sis is flabbergasted. She expected garden variety hostility, not Full-Blast Firehose Hating.

Battle is joined, and we once again fight a single type of Tieqiu Crew henchman mixed with casino security. We jump ahead to the second map node where both are fought exclusively instead.



Effie: "I almost forgot... These are the ones known for their coarse language... Rumour has it they took down dozens of rival Syndicate members with just the psychological damage inflicted via their tongues..."
Heathcliff: "Oi! You watch your mouths while I'm-"
Flexing Crewman: "Who're you gazing nitwits? Keep us out of saight, won'tcha? Them big bulgin' doggy eyeballs are unnerving..."
Threatening Crewman: "Easy, bud. I took a shoutin' crack at one ' them's eggs earlier and my voice echoed like the whole noggin was cave-empty."
Flexing Crewman: "Well brush me sideways, they don't even got a string o' egg noodle for brains? What's the round thing on their shoulders, then? A bag o' gas?"


Bro is flabbergasted.

Gregor: "Hm, think they all take lessons in assholery from the same class?"
Rodion: "... Pft."



Heathcliff: "... dead."



Battle is joined against yet another enemy type and its two variants, the Tieqiu Crew!



Much like the Mariachis downstairs the Tieqiu like to directly manipulate SP, and boy would it be a lot smarter to bench someone for Faust if I were playing on-level, if nothing else then to have a way to use all this fucking Gluttony this team generates for no reason. These two variants share a counter skill (nothing to write home about) and a rather deadly reverse coin skill called Ey! which deals a whopping 15 SP damage on clash win and then inflicts 3 Paralyse next turn for good measure - if anything it's a good thing when these guys boost their SP, because it directly correlates to reverse coin skills getting shittier, and they're positive/negative coin hybrids.

The Flexing crewman has a moderately powerful reverse coin skill Insult Barrage that both boosts a random ally's SP by 10 points on clash win and inflicts 5 SP damage to the target on hit for good measure, then to add insult to injury has a second skill named I'll Crack Ya Skull that gains base power merely from the target's SP being lower than the attacker, not just below an absolute value, while also inflicting Bleed count. Meanwhile the Threatening crewman has an even stronger reverse coin called Gruesome Welcome that chunks 15 SP from the target, and I'll Tear Ya Apart which has the same relative SP conditional as I'll Crack Ya Skull and further synergises with it by inflicting a bunch of next-turn Bleed potency.

It's really six of one, half a dozen of another whether you'll have more grief against the Mariachis or the Tieqiu, but as far as I can recall from way back when, it was the Tieqiu that would menace me the most when they inevitably cropped up in Mirror Dungeon. (Don't worry what Mirror Dungeon is, it's not important and also not unlocked yet if you were a new account.)

The post-battle cutscene finds Dante fretting. Once more the Sinners are stalled out fighting the local Syndicate, with little headway made, but when Dante voices their concerns Ishmael only chuckles. After all, they have their trump card.



There is truly too much to love in this CG. Too many little details. Rodion trying to spare Sinclair's innocence while he gazes wide-eyed with horror into the middle distance. Dante hitting the Alex Yiikman pose. Ishmael's absolute disgust. Heathcliff appearing to be side-eyeing the speech balloon itself. Outis apparently being awed by what she hears. But most important is Ryoshu getting censor-bleeped, because her vibes are truly too filthy for any ratings board on Earth.

Ryoshu: "Next up, you @%$#$^ the @$%@$% and then soak it in #$#@. Lastly..."
Narration: I never knew it was possible for the human tongue to give such detailed accounts of something so sickeningly gruesome. The thugs' eyes were uncharacteristically twinkling - some were even taking notes.
Threatening Crewman: "I'll be damned, she had me struck."
Flexing Crewman: "Hoowee, that snap couldn't be bolder... You're what they call the wizardess o' the tongue, eh lady?"

The Sinners can barely keep themselves together in the aftermath of whatever mindbending eye-opening vortex of suffering it is that Ryoshu spake unto the world.

Heathcliff: "That has to be the gob of a witch, yeah."
Yi Sang: "I cannot help but applaud the creativity. Indeed, the pen... Nay, the tongue is mightier than the sword."
Ishmael: "I thought I was pretty familiar with the sailor's mouth, being a seafarer for half my life... but this made me realise my vocabulary was only the tip of the iceberg."
 
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Saude is truly on -44 fucking SP this entire Canto.

Saude: "I honestly couldn't fathom why the higher-ups would organise a team of people like you."
Faust: "I don't suppose the lineup was meant to be understood by the likes of us."
Saude: "And I'm still having trouble figuring out the meaning of this personnel measure..."
Saude: "But, I guess... this isn't so bad after all."



You're all a bunch of freaks, I don't respect literally any of you (compliment).

The Sinners ascend to the fourth and final floor, but despite their best efforts they have jack all for pilfered wishpower. Rodion reveals that she actually managed to swipe a little back at the pawnshop, revealing a half-used sheet of wish stickers. That she did and never let on all the way up to the fourth floor is used as proof that she has the calibre of pokerface needed - that and, honestly, without the loaded wishpower sticker they wasted in the lobby Dante would be a dead fish at the high-stakes table anyway. The two of them trade roles before Saude can so much as get a word in edgewise.

Saude: "... I would've been vehemently against this only hours ago. But now..."
Rodion: "Good thinking. I've never lost once in anything where money was involved."

A simple brag on the face of it, but I'll put a pin in that line for later.



Rodion: "The contestant enters~"



???: "You are...?"
Rodion: "My name's Rodion. I'm here to gamble for the right to access the basement."

The Mariachi boss laughs.



Rodion: "What a dull take~ It's not who you are that matters in this world, right? It's about who wins."
Aida: "Well, you aren't wrong there. The fact that you were able to get here is proof enough that you're qualified. A pleasure. I'm Aida. And this is..."


Oh fuck it's the Gunk Droid from Stellar Wars.

Rodion: "... a robot? No, a prosthetic...?"
Crew Boss: "What's that stare? Never seen a full-body prosthetic before?"

I've forgotten if I've casually referred to the City as 'cyberpunk' before but in case I did and any of you have reason to doubt, here it is! Of the many weird and whacky things one can do with a human body for enough Ahn in the City, there is cybernetic prosthesis all the way up to total body replacement. And this isn't the sleek, pretty, sexy kind you'd see in Metal Gear Rising or something. A very early reception in Library of Ruina featured a small Fixer office of fullborgs who were an incredibly unglamorous lot, having gone all-in on cybernetic bodies as a way to cut costs on things like eating and drinking and sleeping in favour of That Grind, only to realise oh fuck being unable to eat or sleep or drink sucks shit and their bodies need constant expensive maintenance it was one of the worst trade deals in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.

The Crew Boss honestly seems to have it pretty good by comparison, being perfectly comfortable with his outdated Steel Shitbox model body, claiming it's sturdier than the newer models after the refurbishments he's done to it.

It's also important that you know the Crew Boss voice is intensely autotuned to the point he sounds like he stepped out of an old schmoyoho songify video and it could be annoying but it's just silly enough that it's charming. In any case, he's got more important things on his mind than giving Rodion his life story.

Crew Boss: "Why's that boy bein' so sluggish about comin' here anyway? Arrogant brat thinks he can show up late to serious business, eh?"



Rodion: "?!"
Aida: "You think the world revolves around you, Sonya? Do you crave attention so much that you have to arrive late and be showered in glares?"


The irony of Rodion attempting a dramatic last-minute entrance and deflating upon realising she wasn't last to arrive, only for Sonya to sweep in and actually do a fashionably-late coolguy entrance is truly suffocating.

Rodion: "..."
Sonya: "It's been a while, Rodya."
Aida: "What's up? You two know each other?"
Sonya: "Let's say that we... share a hometown. Isn't that right, Rodya?"



Sonya: "Dunno, it might be too early to say 'still'... you were the one who left on your own just like that."

Aida cuts off the two old friends from wasting any more of her or the Tieqiu boss' time with reminiscing. She goes over the rules one last time, confirming what we all might've expected - the Yurodiviye are the fourth Syndicate with a stake in the casino. She even namechecks Rodion's absolutely paper-thin disguise as the representative of the Tingtang Gang's boss, which literally nobody in the room is buying (or, in the likely case of the Tieqiu boss, cares in the first place). Cheating, sleight of hand, and especially wishpower, are all forbidden. Three hands of poker, player with the most chips by end of round 3 wins. The winner gets to take the elevator seen behind the game table straight down to the caverns where the Golden Bough sits.

Aida: "It's the treasure the former owner of this casino was so desperate to claim, digging a whole tunnel to unearth it. But then they suddenly croaked for reasons unknown, making us the 'lucky' bidders..."
Rodion: "... What an elegant way to put that they died under shady circumstances."
Sonya: "Haha, oh Rodya. You're still as cynical as ever, huh?"



Aida: "Any Syndicate worth its name has caught wind of the stories. Those about the Golden Bough buried down here... and the riches and fame it'll bring to the owner."
Rodion: "If that's the case, seems someone has gained an interest for worldly luxuries, huh? I thought you warned me to stay away from those things, Sonya."
Sonya: "The Golden Bough can be used to achieve far greater things, Rodya. My purpose has stayed the same. To destroy the system of oppression and exploitation, preventing the concentration of wealth..."
Crew Boss: "Yeesh, there he goes again with the grand words. Someone stop 'im."
Sonya: "My apologies. It reminded me of the old times."

Rodion seems completely unlike herself here, doesn't she? Sure she's locked in an incredibly high-stress high-stakes situation where she doesn't have an ace up her sleeve so much as a three of clubs, surrounded by Syndicate bosses who can and would kill her in a heartbeat at the first sign of funny business, but even so she was bantering and chilling out with Aida no problem at first. Then Sonya walked in and she turned into a different person. Harsh, blunt, straight to the point, so cold to her old acquaintance that you can practically see the frost rime on the text boxes. She seems to hate Sonya in a kind of ugly, unmasked way that runs totally counter to her effortlessly smooth, charismatic affect from most prior scenes.



Sonya: "Yet here we are at the same table, keeping our hands of cards from each other in a gamble with our goals on the line."
Sonya: "What is your goal?"
Rodion: "... to win."
Sonya: "... of course."

Play begins, and we skip over the first two rounds to land straight in the closing moves of the third hand.



Rodion: "Hm, I'm all in."
Aida: "... All in?"
Sonya: "Oh~ Dealt a nice hand, huh, Rodya?"
Crew Boss: "Ha~ That swagger of yours's been rubbin' me the wrong way, y'know that? You're pushin' yourself to the edge, so what're you counting on?"
Rodion: "I'm the kind of gal who bets everything she has at the end."



Only for her to nervously rub her card-holding forearm, oh-so-conveniently hidden by the long sleeve of her LCB coat. It looks like she's holding a King, a Jack and a 6 of Spades, and though her fourth card is tilted too far from the camera to see what it is, the 5 of Hearts and the 2 and Ace of Clubs on the table (assuming it's Clubs as the green suit and they're playing with a four-colour deck) don't make for a heartening combination.

Or maybe they do. Look, I don't know a damn thing about gambling, I don't even know what game they're playing since everyone has four cards in their hands and the only poker variant I've had to slog through in a thousand JRPG casino sidequests is Texas Holdem, I'm just trying to play into the drama of the scene.



Rodion: "Huh!?"
Crew Boss: "You just put one of them wish stickers you got from the Tingtang bossman on your arm. You were tryin' to rake in all the chips this round so you can have the Golden Bough all to yourself. Look, everyone! Right 'ere 'neath her hand, this thing. 'S got to be the sticker, ey?"



Sonya: "Sorry, Rodya, but can I take a look at your wrist for a second?"
Rodion: "..."

Does Sonya know Rodya too well, or not well enough? The Crew Boss snaps at Sonya to back off regardless, suspicious that the two old friends could be hustling the game together for all he knows. He's going to yank back Rodion's sleeve and nobody else.



Rodion: "Small-minded for someone so big. Do you really have to be petty about this?"
Crew Boss: "And didn't they teach you that with stolen wishpower comes strict responsibility?"
Rodion: "... you've watched too many movies man. What's stolen?"

Wait I'm sorry back up did they just do a fucking Spider-Man reference in the middle of all this? No, shush, lock in, scene's still going.

Rodion: "If you find nothing, will you fold and walk out?"
Crew Boss: "Hah, you've got guts. Fine, I'll bet all my stakes that there's a piece o' the wishpower on your wrist. What do you say?"
Rodion: "Same as yours. So, one of us is about to go bust then? Scared, are you?"

God, that was such an unforced error. The Tieqiu Crew Boss had no reason to put up his entire stake in the game-

Well, hrm. Returning to the CG of the game table in the final round, everyone's chips are all fucking higgledypiggledy around the edge of the table but if we assume the Crew Boss only has the two sad little stacks of chips directly in front of him he might be losing badly, in which case he thinks this is a weird hail mary play to steal all of Rodion's chips and come out on top as an added bonus to booting her from the game. In which case it's more reasonable for greed and desperation to blind him to the obvious trap Rodion just set for him.

Crew Boss: "Here goes, let us confirm then-"



Crew Boss: "Wuhuh? What's going on 'ere? I saw it. I saw the little fox rub 'er wrist! There's- there's no way..."
Sonya: "That means you're out. What a pity."
Rodion: "What happens to the loser, then? Lop off a hand or something?"



Crew Boss: "No, this is... This can't be right..."
Sonya: "The defeated will be shown generosity, but false accusations need to be taken care of with more caution."
Aida: "Hang on, are you...?"



SMASH



Aida: "For Wing's sake, can you PLEASE give me a warning - just a little one!"



Sonya: "Remember, Rodya? It's a trash compactor we saw at the waste disposal in our Backstreets."
Rodion: "..."
Sonya: "I told you back then. That we proletarians should unite to take down the ruling class and build a new society."
Sonya: "So then you replied: 'If you mean we should round up the rich and flatten 'em under one of those compactors, then I'm all for it.' "
Rodion: "... small correction: I said 'crush and pop 'em'."
Sonya: "... Is that so."



Rodion: "I..."

At which point all the Sinners outside, alarmed by the sudden SLAM of the trash compactor, lean a little too hard on the door for the flimsy wood and ricepaper to hold and come tumbling directly into the private game room like a spilled sack of potatoes.


The mental image of Dante just SPRINGING to their feet out of a pile of eleven other ragdolled Sinners and ticking loudly at Rodion is slaying me.

Sonya: "Made new friends in the meantime, have you, Rodya?"

He lays his cards down on the table and gets up.

Sonya: "The game is over. You win, Rodion. I have no objections."

Sonya departs without another word, leaving Aida alone with the Sinners.



Aida: "I'm not as cool as Sonya. Since you brought your friends, why don't I introduce some of mine as well?"
Gregor: "... y'know, uh, I'm pretty sure I heard a member of your Syndicate say that gambling was purely entertainment for you."
Aida: "Mhm. So isn't this more entertaining than accepting defeat right away?"
Rodion: "You were gonna push on with force regardless of who won, weren't you?"
Aida: "Pfh. Think about it. I have strength and manpower, so why would I give up on the Golden Bough 'cause a round or three of a game said so?"
Rodion: "Aight, then. I'm actually glad you're a rebel."



BEHOLD, AIDA THE SCRUB-DESTROYER, LOS MARIACHI SUPREMA



She's another case of a boss coming after two waves of regular mooks, and if you're not coming back disgustingly overpowered you're gonna need it. Aida was such a notorious wall in terms of difficulty that she ended up being nerfed in a later update, and if you've been paying attention to the synergy between the Mariachi Syndicate's abilities you should already be Fearing what their boss can do.

Also she do a funny maraca dance complete with inexplicable spotlight conjured by God Himself above her head at the start of each turn, causing her and her two allies to regenerate 10 SP for free.



Oh yeah and she gains Attack and Defence Power Up for free every turn once she breaches 20 SP, so... on her second turn, unless you specifically brought Sinking IDs. You may have also noticed that she has two cronies in the fight with her: an Alegre and a Vivaz. You may recall that those two variants are also able to give all allies more Attack and Defence Power Up next turn, correct? Now add in the fact that Aida has a full suite of upgraded variants of their skills combined: a four-coin Sloth skill named Pasus Pasionales that simply gives her 5 more SP on use; a powerful single-coin Gloom skill named Eso es todo? that shaves 10 SP off the target on Clash Win then inflicts a fucking ludicrous 3 Attack Power Down & Paralyse next turn to ensure that Sinner is as useful as a droopy-eyed armless child; an evade named Excelente with a higher coin power that directly lowers her already very low Stagger Thresholds on each dodge as well as damaging the attacker's SP by 5; Bruscamente! and Rápidamente! which give her 2 Attack Power or Defence Power Up next turn (mercifully On Hit instead of On Use); and finally Pañata Party~! which cashes in the SP damage she's managed to do and the Poise she's managed to generate off her S1 in order to Stagger or even kill outright whomever it hits.

I'm going to be honest, I don't remember if I Personally had to struggle against Aida. My memories of hardship and agony are far clearer on certain other difficulty spikes coming up a little later, but for right now I see the vision of every way in which Aida and her goons can absolutely fuck a launch-day player trapped without access to MD or Luxcavation.



Here we see Gregor demonstrating just how insanely good her Evade is - it has a high enough ceiling to dodge even heads hits from base IDs, sucking away their desperately-needed SP while making herself harder and harder to Stagger. Your only advantage coming into this fight on-level is that the turns you spend fighting the first two waves are turns you can build up SP, Sin and more importantly action slots - even an overwhelming action economy advantage doesn't make it a sure thing due to how Evades can just keep trucking and trucking a whole round, but if all it takes is for her to be unlucky once, that might give you a foothold.

Anyway I killed her in two turns and Don absolutely savaged her like she was still holding a grudge about the dance incident two floors ago.

Curiously, Aida flees the battle upon defeat rather than being blown apart, yet there's no post-battle cutscene or anything like that to elaborate further on her fate. There's only one place left to go - down.



But the District 4 branch thing was probably a fluke... right?
 
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I do love this Canto just for how fun it is. Ryoshu introducing us to her SANGRIA in full and going full "be worse" with not getting changed and having the potty-mouth of a god. Sinclair doing the dance of dances. Effie and Saude just blankly staring at it all. It's great.

Narration: Ryoshu held his dagger and threw it straight into the air. It struck an anchorage on the ceiling that kept the chandelier still, causing it to sway precariously.
Narration: Indeed... Ryoshu may be weakened from what she once was because she became a Sinner, but nevertheless... She was still the best swordswoman we had, able to cut through steel like a proverbial hot knife.
Narration: Sure, she treats my words with less respect than she would a wad of gum, but that wasn't a problem.
Narration: Everyone's eyes turned to the swinging chandelier... and eventually, flustered by all the gazes falling upon it...
Yi Sang: "Thus, in a haze, it succumbs."
It's interesting, and something I'd like to note here, that Dante knows that all the Sinners are worse than what they once were, so the fact that the Sinners had trouble with things in the last Canto are perhaps not representative of how good they were prior to becoming Sinners.

Also still able to cut through metal with her sword because Ryoshu is Built Different. Love her.
 
I sadly did not get to fight Aida before the nerf but I absolutely believe she was that tough. She gives me flashbacks to some of the funniest game mechanics pranks from the previous two games.

EDIT: I recall that line about "the sinners used to be better" but I don't actually recall when and how it gets explained, so I'm looking forward to that.
 
Faust cheaky little smile going all yolo gives me light and life.

Also I forgot how man Black Background Statments there were in this canto.

When Aida say that this reminded her of something the seen with the crew boss is a refrence to a famous Korean gambling movie where that scene happend beat for beat only the acuser lost and arm instead of thiere whole body sance arm.

Aida to this day still owns shares of my soul, hadde to go back to canto 1 dungeon to grind I was so desprate to beat her... Never got my reamatch before she was nerfed.
 
Narration: The hand I'd swiftly otustretched to stop Don Quixote from touching the machine unexpectedly fumbled and landed smack on the button-
I maintain a headcanon, that all the wishpower Dante had actually caused them to gamble.

Like, if you had all that wishpower, and were reaching out your hand, what is the absolutely luckiest thing that could happen to you? You're damn right the answer is "trip into the machine and get a jackpot."
Fun fact moment: There is actually an unused version of the CG, where everyone is still in their Hawaiian Shirts. Including Ryoshu, despite her prior claims.



Meursault's is also... inside out. Which is varying degrees of hilarious.
Oh fuck it's the Gunk Droid from Stellar Wars.
Don't do my boy Gonk Droid dirty like that.
Aida was such a notorious wall in terms of difficulty that she ended up being nerfed in a later update, and if you've been paying attention to the synergy between the Mariachi Syndicate's abilities you should already be Fearing what their boss can do.
Proud member of the Pre-Nerf Aida gang. Honestly, she wasn't the worst for me, I had more trouble in other encounters aha.
 
I managed to win against Aida in the hours before she was nerfed. She kicked my ass at first, so I went back and grinded a few of the previous stages. It was a pain before we had Luxcavations, but you do what you gotta do to be able to say "I did it pre-Nerf" and win intangible internet points.
 
Bigpost for the last two updates because life is a nightmare and I forgor again.
Narration: The bus wasn't all that lively. I could hear Rodya's occasional quips, or Heathcliff starting pointless quarrels with someone - probably Don Quixote or Sinclair. And Ryoshu demanding a source of heat to light her cigarette, having run out of lighter fluid. Amidst the gripes and disorder, Gregor was pretty much the only Sinner I could rely on to willingly turn the mood around...
This is a grim, sad moment, but it's also pretty funny to see that Heathcliff's two main targets are the 3 foot tall gremlin (give or take) and the world's most anxiety-filled 20 year old. I love the man but he's punching down here.
Vergilius: "It means stop."
Charon: "Stops are red. Red tastes bad to Charon."



Canto I was about Project Moon punching you in the face with how dark it's willing to go. Canto II is about sinking the next one into your gut while your hands are still up so you laugh until you piss yourself.
beginning canto 2 with a scene of actual physical whiplash to foreshadow the insane tone shift, pure kinograpy
Gregor remarks that Vergilius has a fan after all, he and Rodion sharing a chuckle. It's a sweet moment - as @Squirtodyle pointed out Rodion was fairly active back in Canto I, calling Gregor 'babe' and trying to cheer him up with bantz even if she was clearly stuck at 0 SP the way her coins kept coming up tails. His hardships are over for now, hers seem to just be beginning if Vergilius' pointed comments are any indication, and this moment almost serves as a passing of the narrative torch as much as an affirming of their bond over Being Normal.

Vergilius: "That's more talking than necessary. I really do not wish for there to be impetus behind a third rule for this bus ride."
Rodion: "C'mon, give the employees some room to badmouth their boss. You're being totally petty."
Vergilius: "Next time, do it out of earshot."

It's cute seeing more of Rodya and Greg bonding, but it is downright hysterical having Vergilius playing along with the whole thing. "Playing" is the word too I think, this whole bit doesn't feel as brutal or as cruel as his previous japes did. I could believe he's genuinely kind of having fun dicking around and doing a little guy routine, even if it definitely doesn't last.

And on that day the vibes aligned, for there was someone they could both bully.
The "mean grin" talksprites for Heathcliff and Ishmael bordering Hong Lu's angelic, zero-thoughts genuine smile is so good, I love it.
It seems even the two newcomers aren't buying it, as the one on the l- you know what fuck it, from left to right that's Saude and Effie, they're about to introduce themselves anyway.
that's right it's episode 2 and we're being introduced to the effie-saude 2 tune in next time when we meet up with the next two characters seek and will-
But seriously, the 'that' being alluded to is yet another amusing diversion into how fractally fucked the cyberpunk of this cyberpunk dystopia is. For you see, a currency more valuable than Ahn exists in District 10 - luck. Within this part of the City was born the technology to extract 'wishpower' from the human body, literally siphoning the concept of good luck from a person, so that it can be stored and expended elsewhere for the benefit of another. And by the standards of the City this was not noteworthy enough to put J Corp on the map. Oh no. That's too pedestrian. They became a Wing because they developed the technology to stop wishpower being extracted, because the ability to metaphysically 'lock' luck within a person was easily applicable to a thousand other intangible goods in need of 'locking', and thus came their Singularity. Their equal and opposite is F Corp, whose Singularity is to 'unlock' anything.
This is kind of a fun look at just how bonkers City tech can be. We saw hints of it with Mephistopheles, the Abnormalities, Enkephalin and the whole genetic engineering fuckery of the Smoke War vets, but making it clear that a corporation has developed the technology to extract and store metaphysical qualities like "luck" and expanded that out to insane variety is great at showing off just how wild the City really is.
Outis: "You two, you thought we were worthless scum until now, didn't you? I know you've been seeing our group as sewage full of waste!"



Outis: "Have you not wondered why we have been charged with the momentous mission of claiming the Golden Boughs despite that?"
Effie, genuinely taken aback by Outis' intensity: "Wh- why is... that?"
Outis: "Although I won't disagree that the others are rubbish drenched in foul water-"
Gregor: "No, seriously, you're the only one who says that..."
Sinclair: "O-oh, that's what Ms. Outis had been thinking all this time..."
Outis: "I have remained undefeated, and our manager is capable of resuscitating us, making us practically incapable of death. In fact, just the two of us should be sufficient. Though that weasel Vergilius seems to disagree..."
Outis: "The point is, these detrites won't be scrapped even after countless battles. They will come back as the exact same piles of trash they were before death."
Gregor: "..."
Ishmael: "That was a very inspiring way of reaffirming that we're living, breathing garbage to you."

God I fucking can't with this woman, Project Moon designed the perfect character, I love her so much.

We're riding the Limbus while she's stuck with the Struggle Bus.

Saude, in a heroic effort of improvisation, decides that if Plan A is out the window they'll just dress all 12 Sinners up as Tingtang gangsters so they can move as one big group without arousing suspicion. Furthermore, they can siphon some wishpower from the goons while they're at it. The crew get a move on before more Tingtang goons can show up, and hustle into the scrapyard Effie indicated for them.
Saude doing her level best to make this into Oceans 11 when we're actually playing the casino heist version of Dimwits of the Dimwood is truly peak, I cannot wait to see her suffer more due to exposure to this gaggle of clowns.
I simply must emphasise that the cutscene just Stops here and battle begins so I choose to believe that Don's mental CPU overheated so badly trying to reconcile her clashing urges that she leaped straight to murder to escape the conversation.



Not a goddamn thought behind those eyes. A frictionless vacuum in which perfectly spherical neurons float freely, occasionally striking together by pure chance and raising a single spark of consciousness as flint and steel can make fire.
la creatura
Canto II so far feels like a TTRPG session that spiralled out of hand but the GM and the dice let the party Yes-And and fuck their way through into something approaching a victory,. It's such an intense tone shift compared to Canto I that it's like PM are doing the perfect opposite of boiling the frog, just flash-boiling and then nitrogen freezing your ass with both tonal extremes so you understand the multitudes they contain, and it's peak.


You could do Shoocharu animated shorts of this with zero effort whatsoever.
Effie and Saude decide that Dante will be the one posing as the Tingtang gang leader, and thus the bearer of all his ill-gotten wishpower. First off - can't beat a fucking inanimate clock as far as pokerfaces go.
wait hang on but dante can't be understood by anyone except the sinners how the fuck did they think that would work-
Narration: Looking at all the flashy symbols and numbers spinning had slowly eroded my resolve to act the part of a stern manager.
Dante: <I, I guess a little peek is fine?>
Exposure to Don Quixote genuinely makes everyone around her dumber. The woman is such a gaping void of braincells that her presence will lower the collective IQ by multiple standard deviations.

Immaculate character.
The little details on this CG are perfect, Rodya looks a little surprised and interested, Effie is genuinely flabbergasted, and Saude looks like she's 3 seconds away from killing herself.
Gregor: "Gah... Manager Bud, today isn't our day, huh..."
Dante: <Yup... looks like we're screwed. Royally...>
Effie: "This can't be... All the work we did to put this plan in motion... Faust, what were you thinking volunteering to bring these fools along for your missions? You're supposed to have near-unparalelled brilliance, right? Then use it!"
Faust: "Even though I haven't worked with them for long, I was able to realise something: I ought to become a Faust that believes in uncertainty."



Faust: "That is what my 'plan' entails."
This scene is undeniable proof that Faust is the most intelligent member of the entire company, because she spent one mission with them and immediately made her peace with the fact that the Sinners are insane and no plan will ever survive, so she just has to roll with the punches.
Narration: Ryoshu held his dagger and threw it straight into the air. It struck an anchorage on the ceiling that kept the chandelier still, causing it to sway precariously.
Narration: Indeed... Ryoshu may be weakened from what she once was because she became a Sinner, but nevertheless... She was still the best swordswoman we had, able to cut through steel like a proverbial hot knife.
Narration: Sure, she treats my words with less respect than she would a wad of gum, but that wasn't a problem.
Narration: Everyone's eyes turned to the swinging chandelier... and eventually, flustered by all the gazes falling upon it...
Yi Sang: "Thus, in a haze, it succumbs."



Narration: The chandelier crashed to the floor in full force, making a tremendous noise.



Narration: Nothing else happened.



Dante: <So, uh, what was that for? Ryoshu?>
Ryoshu: "... a performance."
Gregor: "You just made that up, didn't you?"
okay look the note about the sinners being less powerful is important but fucking hell how am i meant to focus on that when i'm too busy making the wheeze.jpg face irl

ryoshu aced a ranged attack roll only for the dm to point out no one had moved under the chandelier and now she's scrambling to try and explain it it's perfect
God, fuck. Even Outis can't fully brush aside that dipshit move with the slot machine, she's just spinning it as 'listening to the other Sinners (derogatory) temporarily rendered you A Fucking Imbecile, executive manager, you can't be blamed for such psychohazards'.
Look, I know that this is Outis, but in complete fairness when you look at the rest of the Sinners-

Saude is genuinely edging her aneurysm like it's 11pm on the 31st of November and she's ready to pop if the wind blows the wrong way.
Unfathomably funny they gave her a sprite for when she's desperately trying to keep smiling but the universe is punishing her for existing within it anyway.
Heathcliff may have destroyed our backup source of wishpower, but he did so in service to a genuine Soul-Read of the security chief that secured the party an exit to the next floor of the casino rather than subjecting us to grinding through every security guard in the building. Heathcliff truly out here illustrating the difference between Intelligence and Wisdom, even if he doesn't get credit for it.
Yet more evidence that Heathcliff is genuinely much more clever than people give him credit for! My boy is good, he deserves the praise.
Faust: "Faust doesn't necessarily enjoy dancing for leisure, but I could gladly perform a routine if it's for the mission's sake. However, it's not technical perfection they want. They're looking for something unstable and unpolished, rather..."


Vineboom.
First off, iconic that Faust takes the time to explain that she would dance perfectly while she's midway through throwing Sinclair under the bus.

Second, the only thing that could have made this part funnier is if there was another CG where everyone turned to look at Sinclair's little cut-in.
Being glomped by Rodion would fix me maybe.

Rodion: " 'Kay now~ My little Sinclair, I have a very, veeeeery important task for you."
Sinclair: "Huh? Hey? Rodya? Where are you..."

average anxiety-ridden early-20s reaction to getting glomped by rodya, nigh-instant agreement to anything she wants you to do


This game is a 10- where the fuck did Ryoshu and Meursault get that ukelele and pan pipes.
genuinely fucking howling, everything is perfect but look at heathcliff giving the entire thing the fucking stink-eye in the corner
Gregor: "Hm, think they all take lessons in assholery from the same class?"
Rodion: "... Pft."

D'aw, Rodya getting embarrassed at giggling at Greg's lame joke.

There is truly too much to love in this CG. Too many little details. Rodion trying to spare Sinclair's innocence while he gazes wide-eyed with horror into the middle distance. Dante hitting the Alex Yiikman pose. Ishmael's absolute disgust. Heathcliff appearing to be side-eyeing the speech balloon itself. Outis apparently being awed by what she hears. But most important is Ryoshu getting censor-bleeped, because her vibes are truly too filthy for any ratings board on Earth.
I literally can't say anything else this is just peak fucking performance, sent me into genuine hysterics when I first saw it.
Faust's little tiny smile as she says this truly sends me.
Then Sonya walked in and she turned into a different person. Harsh, blunt, straight to the point, so cold to her old acquaintance that you can practically see the frost rime on the text boxes. She seems to hate Sonya in a kind of ugly, unmasked way that runs totally counter to her effortlessly smooth, charismatic affect from most prior scenes.
Worth noting she doesn't say a single line in this entire scene with her near-trademark ~. She's really and truly locked in on hating this man.
She's another case of a boss coming after two waves of regular mooks, and if you're not coming back disgustingly overpowered you're gonna need it. Aida was such a notorious wall in terms of difficulty that she ended up being nerfed in a later update, and if you've been paying attention to the synergy between the Mariachi Syndicate's abilities you should already be Fearing what their boss can do.
Congrats on beating her! (she was harder before the patch)
 
Faust's 'well what did you expect with this shower of lunatics, that they'd keep to the plan? that they'd keep to any plan? that they'd listen to a word you said, that they'd consider your tremendous intellect and peerless skills before running off to do whatever the fuck their randomly-sparking impulses told them to? i felt like that once. once. very briefly. it did not last. i am happier now that my delusions are stripped away. i have no control, and i have embraced it.' is very funny.

Still love Outis's characterisation, she's such a weird character but it's absolutely fantastic, we need more sinister evil viziers who are 150% in support of the people they're viziering for. 'you were an unbeliveable imbecile, oh great one, but it wasn't your fault. these failures, these cretins, these absolute wastes of oxygen? they're contagoius, you see. you should spend less time with them and you will improve to your true self once more.' Get yourself a hype-man who hypes as hard as Outis does for Dante.

And the Sinclair bit made me literally laugh out loud, as did the Ryoshu CG.
 
Ryoshu, surprisingly, only shakes her head with a look of complete confidence.

Ryoshu: "... This is art. Poetaster, gimme the knife."
Yi Sang: "You may forever take it from my hands. The blade will be better off parting ways to wander about the air for however long."


Blursed image.

Narration: Ryoshu held his dagger and threw it straight into the air. It struck an anchorage on the ceiling that kept the chandelier still, causing it to sway precariously.
Narration: Indeed... Ryoshu may be weakened from what she once was because she became a Sinner, but nevertheless... She was still the best swordswoman we had, able to cut through steel like a proverbial hot knife.
Narration: Sure, she treats my words with less respect than she would a wad of gum, but that wasn't a problem.
Narration: Everyone's eyes turned to the swinging chandelier... and eventually, flustered by all the gazes falling upon it...
Yi Sang: "Thus, in a haze, it succumbs."



Narration: The chandelier crashed to the floor in full force, making a tremendous noise.



Narration: Nothing else happened.



Dante: <So, uh, what was that for? Ryoshu?>
Ryoshu: "... a performance."
Gregor: "You just made that up, didn't you?"

Ryoshu has been getting some fantastic character moments and she still has a couple more in the works, it's quite remarkable.
This right here. This is by far THE most TTRPG-ass moment I've ever seen in a videogame, to the point where I swear I've seen a DnD story about this exact sequence of events!


Mariachi Alegre: "This one won't do."
Mariachi Vivaz: "Her movement is insincere."



Mariachi Alegre: "Dance is a window to the heart."
Mariachi Vivaz: "Without a clear and pure heart, it loses all meaning."
Don Quixote: "..."


I cannot overstate the mismatch between the talksprite chosen for Don in this moment and Kim Yea-lim's delivery. Her voice drops a full octave or two, her rejection of the Mariachi's assessment a whisper-quiet mutter bereft of emotion save traces of anger.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRkxavMUGpc

This is a moment one has to actually experience to truly appreciate. This right here fuelled so much speculation for months.

Also, Don's voice actor is really fucking good.



Rodion: "Huh!?"
Crew Boss: "You just put one of them wish stickers you got from the Tingtang bossman on your arm. You were tryin' to rake in all the chips this round so you can have the Golden Bough all to yourself. Look, everyone! Right 'ere 'neath her hand, this thing. 'S got to be the sticker, ey?"



Sonya: "Sorry, Rodya, but can I take a look at your wrist for a second?"
Rodion: "..."

Does Sonya know Rodya too well, or not well enough? The Crew Boss snaps at Sonya to back off regardless, suspicious that the two old friends could be hustling the game together for all he knows. He's going to yank back Rodion's sleeve and nobody else.



Rodion: "Small-minded for someone so big. Do you really have to be petty about this?"
Crew Boss: "And didn't they teach you that with stolen wishpower comes strict responsibility?"
Rodion: "... you've watched too many movies man. What's stolen?"

Wait I'm sorry back up did they just do a fucking Spider-Man reference in the middle of all this? No, shush, lock in, scene's still going.

Rodion: "If you find nothing, will you fold and walk out?"
Crew Boss: "Hah, you've got guts. Fine, I'll bet all my stakes that there's a piece o' the wishpower on your wrist. What do you say?"
Rodion: "Same as yours. So, one of us is about to go bust then? Scared, are you?"
The final joke of this entire ridiculous sequence: using up the wishpower the moment they stepped in the door was the best possible use of it. Dante blowing it all on that slot machine wasn't an accident - they're incredibly lucky that they didn't end up walking into this gambling den with a Wishpower tattoo on their wrist.

The plan was doomed from the start. Thank god they fucked it up, eh?

BEHOLD, AIDA THE SCRUB-DESTROYER, LOS MARIACHI SUPREMA


never forget

Also she do a funny maraca dance complete with inexplicable spotlight conjured by God Himself above her head at the start of each turn, causing her and her two allies to regenerate 10 SP for free.


the funny maraca dance in all its 2 fps glory
 
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I can very distinctly remember my ass getting beat by this boss. You gotta believe me that there was a lot of extremely funny posts that came from people getting mulched by a Mariachi boss on launch.
 
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Saude's forced smile sustain me.
It's more true every time we see her.
She's another case of a boss coming after two waves of regular mooks, and if you're not coming back disgustingly overpowered you're gonna need it. Aida was such a notorious wall in terms of difficulty that she ended up being nerfed in a later update, and if you've been paying attention to the synergy between the Mariachi Syndicate's abilities you should already be Fearing what their boss can do.
If I recall correctly, the fight against Aida (Specifically wave 3) had 2 more Mariachis at launch, each of them with 2 Skill Slots. This was the main source of difficulty, as you probably just steamroll through the previous waves. If you do 'well' enough, you arrive at Aida with her side having more skill slots than you, leading quite often into an unopposed Panata Party. After that, it just kinda snowballed.

Aida is the first normal enemy (in my opinion) whose animations are somewhat interesting. Before this, it's just the same strike on every coin (some enemies have like, two, boring attacks instead). Panata Party is different, in that it is an actual combo, with one coin leading into the other, revealing a neat design detail about Aida.

She glows in the dark.
 
It's cute seeing more of Rodya and Greg bonding, but it is downright hysterical having Vergilius playing along with the whole thing. "Playing" is the word too I think, this whole bit doesn't feel as brutal or as cruel as his previous japes did. I could believe he's genuinely kind of having fun dicking around and doing a little guy routine, even if it definitely doesn't last.
Yeah I definitely think that this is a moment of him genuinely vibing with the crew. Saddest soggiest man in the world not immune to social interaction.

Panata Party is different, in that it is an actual combo, with one coin leading into the other, revealing a neat design detail about Aida.
Oh I had no idea that it was the first combo skill we see on the enemy opposition. Very neat. I don't think I've ever gotten to see that other detail about her either, so thank you for sharing.
 
God still having flashbacks to going online to look for info and finding people bitching hard about that boss. Nearly typed something dumb before realizing I'd gotten lucky with the gacha and just had enough powerful ID's to steamroll through...

Yeah going through this chapter day one I could actually feel the lingering depression from Yuri's fate leaving my body at Sinclair's dancing and the gangers actually pulling out notepads for Ryoshu's lecture on proper threat technique.
 
niw then i see all this comments about Aida and how she beat almost everyone before patch... while i beat her before pach without any particular troubles... it still kinda funny and strange. Like, even here, with this recap everyone remeber struggles with her, while my suffer starts only in next canto. It just make me feel... of... like... how i dare even call myself a limbus fan if i dont have the same expirience es everyone elce...
 
Another reason normal battles can be kind of frustrating is that the autotarget AI has almost no conception of what clashes are possible in your party's given speed ranges, so you end up taking completely needless one-sided attacks in the process. It's fine for our purposes, as it gives me another opportunity to illustrate a small detail - Don's flinching sprite is an interesting character choice for something that flies by so quickly. Rather than looking obliviously silly, or genuinely pressured, she leans into the oncoming blow with an expression of something like annoyance.

Mariachi Vivaz: "Her movement is insincere."

This is a moment one has to actually experience to truly appreciate. This right here fuelled so much speculation for months.

Foreshadowing: a literary device in which a writer gives an-

Beyond the ever so subtle hints literally every sinner has been giveing always about dark pasts (looking at you sinclair dance description). I love how you describe all of the enemy mechanics even the early ones that players normally breeze past!
 
Oh man this section! It's so glorious. I remember needed to take a break when Ryoshu's cool as fuck chandelier moment....was absolutely useless since no one was under it and everyone just stared confusedly.
 
The moment some random gambler lost his entire life savings and was probably going to get his organs sold, only to be forced at maraca-point to get up onto the table and start morosely dancing mariachi style because the local gang felt he was harshing the vibes was about the moment the setting established itself as a goblin inside my brain. It was just such a confluence of so many insane things at once that I could never really stop thinking about it. Like, somehow the fact that there is a powerful and respected mariachi-themed gang barely even scratches the surface of the canto's layered insanity.
 
Sinclair nods.



This game is a 10- where the fuck did Ryoshu and Meursault get that ukelele and pan pipes.

Poor greg, his turn was one long PTSD flashback, then the next sinner gets this. I really do think the did this tone whiplash on purpose. The prologue is "this is not a power fantasy" the first canto was "We go this dark here" and the second canto is "we go this silly here" by the end of the 2nd canto you have a solid idea of exactly what kind of game your playing.

I'm going to be honest, I don't remember if I Personally had to struggle against Aida. My memories of hardship and agony are far clearer on certain other difficulty spikes coming up a little later, but for right now I see the vision of every way in which Aida and her goons can absolutely fuck a launch-day player trapped without access to MD or Luxcavation.

I remember banging my head against a wall on her, and then figuring something out. Part of it was realizing what Threads where for, but I think the main thing was that I deliberately slowed down against her warm up mooks, and then just relentlessly threw EGO at her, or just got super lucky and SP steamrolled her. I'm pretty sure Mersault and his "you will suck next turn" base ego played a part in it.


The moment some random gambler lost his entire life savings and was probably going to get his organs sold, only to be forced at maraca-point to get up onto the table and start morosely dancing mariachi style because the local gang felt he was harshing the vibes was about the moment the setting established itself as a goblin inside my brain. It was just such a confluence of so many insane things at once that I could never really stop thinking about it. Like, somehow the fact that there is a powerful and respected mariachi-themed gang barely even scratches the surface of the canto's layered insanity.

the setting is a very rare combination of very grimdark and shockingly colorful. Its grim but not gritty, or at least not universally gritty.
 
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Haahh.

Going through this thread and seeing old day 1 stuff again is nostalgic.

That's all for now. You'll see me again later.
 
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the left side of her coattails reads 'MIGUEL' instead of 'DON QUIXOTE' like it does in the conversation sprites.

What could this mean? I don't know, honestly. It's hard to tell how much I should read into it considering the disparity between her dialogue and combat sprites. But if it was somehow an error or outdated art assets then surely they would've just changed one or the other by now, right? You be the judge I suppose, it's just interesting.
You wont fucking believe what got announced in today's patch notes.

Miguel has been on the combat sprite for two years (as in, since development screenshots) and is even on official merchandise that has been sold to people, but was just now revealed to be an error!

Just thought that'd be something fun (and non-spoiler since it was already mentioned in the thread) to mention~
 
You wont fucking believe what got announced in today's patch notes.

Miguel has been on the combat sprite for two years (as in, since development screenshots) and is even on official merchandise that has been sold to people, but was just now revealed to be an error!

Just thought that'd be something fun (and non-spoiler since it was already mentioned in the thread) to mention~
You're fucking with me. They're changing the text on her coat and her lance, after a year and 7 months of it being incorrect, all because I made an LP where I talked about them.

The ESGOO curse has become the LP curse!
 
You're fucking with me. They're changing the text on her coat and her lance, after a year and 7 months of it being incorrect, all because I made an LP where I talked about them.

The ESGOO curse has become the LP curse!
Now now, we can't get hasty. We can't know if ESGOO is currently making a video where he mentions that, or might have a thought about it in a week's time that the curse needs to ruin!
 
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