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sun tzu said:
To be fair, I'm not entirely sure we'd have accomplished anything back then. Behemoth still had tons and tons of ablative armor, which is only now getting ripped apart by the combined attack of everyone and his grandmother. Depending on how Gromweld rules on it, our ping damage might not have accomplished any meaningful results...
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That's plausible, and something to address during the debrief. Beginning every encounter with a new hostile with a detailed scan - like a Metroid Prime 100% run - is probably a good idea though. Not that we should limit it to known hostiles - how hard do you think we could derail things if we scanned all of our superiors? We do still need to find that leak...
 
DragonBard said:
Wouldn't it only be bashing damage?
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Bashing damage wraps around to Lethal once it reaches Incap so it'd only take twice as long to kill Behemoth. Note that it's probably safe to assume that Behemoth (and the rest of the Endbringers, for that matter) ignores the various penalties (wound penalties, unconsciousness) that normally come into play when ones Health Track gets filled with Bashing damage.
 
FunkyEntropy said:
Bashing damage wraps around to Lethal once it reaches Incap so it'd only take twice as long to kill Behemoth. Note that it's probably safe to assume that Behemoth (and the rest of the Endbringers, for that matter) ignores the various penalties (wound penalties, unconsciousness) that normally come into play when ones Health Track gets filled with Bashing damage.
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I picture Behemoth's Health Track looking something like this:

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Me thinks that you guys are conflating the huge regenerating soak and hardness shell with the hard but breakable core. Which once damaged stays damaged.
 
xenondestroyer said:
Me thinks that you guys are conflating the huge regenerating soak and hardness shell with the hard but breakable core. Which once damaged stays damaged.
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IIR in canon when we saw the core get damaged it didn't survive long enough for us to be able to tell if the things can regenerate.
 
xenondestroyer said:
Me thinks that you guys are conflating the huge regenerating soak and hardness shell with the hard but breakable core. Which once damaged stays damaged.
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It does regenerate. It also regenerates more slowly than the expendable outer shell, so if it's anything more than ping damage Behemoth has to take Action instead of ignoring it like damage to the outer body.

The whole Endbringer physiology is basically:
Core - Where their awareness is based, senses(each of them actually relies intensively upon power-based senses rather than their apparent eye, which is decorative, Simugh sees the past and future, Leviathan can sense all water on the planet, Behemoth likely the same with energy flows), power, regeneration ability, etc. Incredibly dense. Nullifies most powers on contact. Effectively the -4 and Incapacitated health levels. Regenerates slowly, though still at a visible rate.

Skeleton - While not necessary to LIVE, the skeleton is significantly denser than the rest of the outer body and represents the Endbringer's physical strength and mobility. If you cut off it's arm it has more trouble fighting, and the same goes for it's legs. Skeleton regenerates, but significantly more slowly than the 'flesh'. Effectively the -1 and -2 health levels, impair, but not seriously dangerous.

Flesh - A total distraction, damage to this is useless except for the fact that it's covering the skeleton and core, so you have to go through it anyway. Basically the -0 health levels, regenerated rapidly. Damage to this has no hindrance at all.
 
Top off with appropriate levels of Hardness and Soak - I'm thinking 15-ish for the first and 30-40 for the latter; meaning you need a tank gun or equivalent to scratch it and tac-nukes or heavier to do serious damage.
 
Hey Gromweld, not only you killed my namesake supervillan, you also got his name wrong! :mad:
I am willing to forgive you only if you tell me what kind of powers you gave to him. Otherwise i will stage a Discordian invasion upon Nowhere and nobody is going to enjoy it; Especially everyone with a minimum of Parahuman dislike(a Contagious Dream Lotus Unfolding will cause a lot of mutations everywhere).
 
SwiftRosenthal said:
That's plausible, and something to address during the debrief. Beginning every encounter with a new hostile with a detailed scan - like a Metroid Prime 100% run - is probably a good idea though. Not that we should limit it to known hostiles - how hard do you think we could derail things if we scanned all of our superiors? We do still need to find that leak...
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We've been scanning everyone we see in the base for a while now. There are a few people with corona pollentias, including one that's weirdly shrivelled (my guess is they no longer have the potential to trigger because someone else did), but no-one with a gemma.
 
RCa said:
We've been scanning everyone we see in the base for a while now. There are a few people with corona pollentias, including one that's weirdly shrivelled (my guess is they no longer have the potential to trigger because someone else did), but no-one with a gemma.
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Cape superiors, not just PRT. That includes a lot of people more respected than us who are only in town for this battle.
 
I'm not trying to be offensive, but what the hell is with Pharoah Lung's lips?

It looks like he just ate the worlds most concentrated sour warhead and it's formed a Pucker based singularity that is sucking in his face.
 
Finbar said:
I'm not trying to be offensive, but what the hell is with Pharoah Lung's lips?

It looks like he just ate the worlds most concentrated sour warhead and it's formed a Pucker based singularity that is sucking in his face.
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Lung's dragon-form has a split mouth like that. I don't know what the term is.
 
Well, I for one cared. On the other hand, we DID kind of have our whole life flipped upside down, and while the rest of our problems and distractions were all practically in our face demanding our time and attention, Danny was locked in a quiet room, not going anywhere. So basically 'out of sight, out of mind' and the fact that he wasn't (as far as we knew) going anywhere made it easy for us to assume our daddy issues weren't a pressing concern.
 
Stormseed said:
I was thinking about the thing with Danny a bit more, and this:


was probably a warning.
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Bit of a poor warning, considering that that happened on Saturday, we tried to talk to him on Sunday and got screwed by our meditation stuff, and then he escaped on Monday.

Not that there probably weren't other warnings, let alone common sense or any hints Grom dropped. Just that's not one of them. Maybe more of a "you done goofed".
 
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