Really? I'm a little skeptical of that.
Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 17: Quality Quest Quizzes Quixotic, Quailing Quorum
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Ridtom
Good. Bad. I'm the man with the Wand.
Missy is in WORSE headspace now, since she just went under painful torture and is apparently still in excruciating pain an dmental stress from being turned into Bonesaws plaything.
I'd be open to Exalting pretty much any of the former Brockton Bay Wards other than Dean (he's likely to produce a social combat monster and I want nothing to do with that), with a preference towards Missy and Aisha. That said, Aisha has no chance of winning this vote, considering her injuries aren't life threatening and that was basically the only thing that would push people to vote for her. Chevalier is a candidate if he accepts, as is Bladedancer. No to Accord (he's not really an option right now, but honestly no to Accord forever). Lisa is someone I'd be okay with, but I don't consider it very likely that she'd accept. None of the other Wyld Hunt members jump out at me as candidates (Wyld's power is incredible, but she really doesn't fit the mold of an exalt candidate.) so none of them.
Cassiemouse
Market Atheist
Alright. I am a fan of Lisa, Dean, Missy, Kali in that order. Hrm.
13 years of constant, nerve-shattering pain.
As in, breaking off bone makes your vision go white, and you have to shed bone every morning to avoid getting entombed.
Then you offer her an alternative that is an unproven technique with only one alleged result.
Marrow was under worse conditions for over thirteen years.
Then add Case 53 discrimination.
You don't think Marrow was desperate?
The only thing different here is that Missy is a cute minor.
She's only been in Bonesaw's hands for <12hours.
Cassiemouse
Market Atheist
What do we think about gender balance on the team? If we want to have a reasonable balance then we can only get one more girl. And I think Lisa is the best of our choices there. Yep.
As a side note, if Accord's currently fighting for his life in Boston, what the hell's happening there? Endbringer attack?
We may need to Exalt him to keep him alive if that's the case.
Loom is clearly the best option there
We may need to Exalt him to keep him alive if that's the case.
Loom is clearly the best option there
Honestly, I don't think that's a thing we actually care about. Which characters are cooler and we want to see more of is the bigger deciding factor, at least for me.
No! Absolutely not! We are not wasting our emergency-Exaltation on a slave trading, murderous supervillain! Unacceptable!
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Well, aside from anyone already fit for active duty being removed for a week while we deal with the Nine.
Scify
It always starts with a lighthouse.
That's actually one of the strongest points in his favor, IMO--and Lisa's, for that matter. We kind of suck at social situations, I don't think FPoP is much better, and while it would be amusing for Armsmaster to be outfitted with Social charms...
Not that it's really relevant, but I wonder if having a Social combat-type would actually benefit us against Jack. He's good (and his shard makes him unreasonably good when it comes to parahumans), but he doesn't have bullshit magic on his side.
Cassiemouse
Market Atheist
I admit, I am loathe to let Lisa go without at least trying to get her on our team as soon as alchemically possible. I think we have a strong chance to do it if we explain things to her.
Marrow didn't try to kill herself the day before her Exaltation, and she was at peace (mostly) with her eventual death by getting too old to fight. She was in her right mind when she consented, as much as she could ever be. Vista on the other hand is not.
My personal choice for this one is Armsmaster, because I think this is our best chance to nab him from the Protectorate as he doesn't have any big responsibilities right now. If the clock is ticking and getting the mindset of the candidate "just right" becomes more and more of an issue, I think this is our best chance to get him.
Well, we ended up with Marrow last time, which is pretty much the opposite of that.
An Exalted Accord probably doesn't need to be like that.
No no, you misunderstand. It's not that I dislike the idea of having a party face. I dislike the idea of what Autochton thinks a party face is. IE: Someone who magically influences anyone who disagrees with you until they don't disagree anymore. I want none of that. If I could trust Autobot to stick to non-magical influence abilities, I'd be all for it, but I can't so I'm not.
Just say no to mind control, kids.
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The same reason that the Dragonslayers aren't dead.
He suffered a major loss in trusted personnel at the BB Crater, and he is currently dealing with the E88 moving in from out of town, along with whatever new triggers they recruited.
And then there are people like the Teeth, who are trying to take advantage of perceived weakness.
Ergo, gangwar.
Disagree.
The problem is that he is not suitable as a team player, not that he is a murderous supervillain; the stakes are too high for that to be a consideration.
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Why would we want to guarantee that Exaltation becomes necessary when we can actually succeed in saving them without forcing the situation? We should focus on turning those bandwagon votes that force the situation on a specific person. I don't care about legal complications later on regarding the Wards candidates...we can find a way around those if we want Vista (or any other Ward) for the assembly badly enough.
But we should not manufacture an exaltation situation when we can very likely save someone by regular means.
We can help that with an improved version of my (very poor) parameters stunt. Establishing the GENERAL situation that we would exalt a candidate (and just how good a candidate they need to be-I say yes/strong wait, ignoring age since in an emergency) under.
Really, it's what Gromweld is asking for with that option.
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Given that Alchemicals are built to operate in teams as part of a social context, I believe this is something that Autocthon would fix.
Cassiemouse
Market Atheist
Stupid, sexy mind control. *cough*
Keep in mind WHY she tried to kill herself, and in such a manner as biting off her own tongue. This is made with the knowledge that Bonesaw has her, and will make use of her against us. She's not inherently suicidal, but she values her friends more than her own life.
It's what makes her a Jade candidate.
Problem is, based on the most recent assessment, he'd fail the requirements.
This angle doesn't make any sense to me. His power is neat, but it's hardly exceptional. He's just as useful to us as a mortal ally as he is as an Exalt, with the added bonus that we didn't Exalt someone who actively sells people to the Yangban and tortures his subordinates. I'm against Exalting him at all, but I'm even more against wasting an exaltation that could be used to save the life of an actual Hero on his miserable ass.
That is not remotely what Gromweld said. Amelia AND Exaltation can fix those.
Then we can't afford to pick "Holding Out" and should go with "BRB". We will probably just move on to a new crisis after this. Exalting someone means we won't have their help, but I think we're just going to have to accept that, now or later. Since you want Vista, we can pick a candidate now that she won't conflict with, such as Armsmaster.
Using a stunt to Exalt Missy doesn't exclude the other hostages from being fixed. If anything the Stunt people were voting on seems to imply that she is just that much worse off than the others to provide us that opportunity.
The Anima display isn't that hard to explain away. We are dealing with an entity that counts as a god, small g, and the nine just tried to defame his name in front of the entire planet. The nature of the Anima in question is just a general stranger effect dictated by the GM. Autobot being the one everyone saw means that he was SUPER PISSED at the nine and chose to intervene to make his presence known. Now that isn't always going to be seen in a positive light, but it also won't automatically be seen negatively either. The event has more to do with people's general acceptance of people with stranger powers than anything else. I also thing that everyone can just go back over the footage to prove that the effect isn't lasting can only work in the assembly's favor here.
The Anima display isn't that hard to explain away. We are dealing with an entity that counts as a god, small g, and the nine just tried to defame his name in front of the entire planet. The nature of the Anima in question is just a general stranger effect dictated by the GM. Autobot being the one everyone saw means that he was SUPER PISSED at the nine and chose to intervene to make his presence known. Now that isn't always going to be seen in a positive light, but it also won't automatically be seen negatively either. The event has more to do with people's general acceptance of people with stranger powers than anything else. I also thing that everyone can just go back over the footage to prove that the effect isn't lasting can only work in the assembly's favor here.
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Yes well a lot more people seemed to like Marrow and think she's cool and wanted to see more of here than the ones who didn't, you can't please everyone and what one person finds a boring personality another finds interesting.
Yeah, I actually think Sirkalla is a really neat character, and I don't really see why people have a problem with her. She wasn't my first choice, sure, but people decided we needed a combat Exalt right now and she's what we ended up with. Her backstory's neat, her antics post-exaltation are entertaining (Hair~!) and the Case 53 drama, while an unwelcome difficulty, still makes for an interesting story. I don't regret voting to Exalt her one bit, personally.
Ridtom
Good. Bad. I'm the man with the Wand.
I feel that this is unfair, considering we have Marrow, Taylor, and Who. Each of them have Mind-Warping powers even greater than Gallants.
Gender balance doesn't matter.