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Age of Ice and Blood: A Pathfinder System Heroic Fantasy Quest

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Not even remotely his fault though. The leaders of the endeavor simply decided on their own to cease the war, sue for peace and then leave him and his compatriots out to dry. He had absolutely zero control over that outcome.
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Never said it was his fault. He is of the similar archytpe of the knights who keep searching for the grail and never find it.

It's not their fault but they are still failed knights.
 
Acolyte said:
Never said it was his fault. He is of the similar archytpe of the knights who keep searching for the grail and never find it.

It's not their fault but they are still failed knights.
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Um...no? No that's not it at all. If he'd stayed in the east on a lone crusade then he would be one of those. He's just a man who went to war and was coming home before getting diverted into an alternate reality.

Unless it's of your opinion that any soldier who lost a war was and is a failed soldier, which is kinda an out there way of looking at things.
 
I mean technically he'd be right in that a soldiers job is to win a war, if you don't win that war you have "failed" at your job. But that refuses to account for the fact that soldiers often have little agency in how a war is actually won, strategy and logistics is where a war is won, if you don't have that it doesn't matter how good your soldiers are, you aren't going to win. Thus they did not fail their purpose, someone else did.
 
Snowfire said:
Um...no? No that's not it at all. If he'd stayed in the east on a lone crusade then he would be one of those. He's just a man who went to war and was coming home before getting diverted into an alternate reality.

Unless it's of your opinion that any soldier who lost a war was and is a failed soldier, which is kinda an out there way of looking at things.
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No because he was a crusading knight. He went out to crusade and lost his faith there. That is a failure in the classical sense.
If it was written by someone that was from that time it would be a journey about regaining a his faith and stuff. His motivation wasn't to go to war for wars sake, but it was a proof of his faith and now he lost his faith, losing a big part of what motivated him.

He a very stereotypical knight that failed his quest.
 
D King Hecht said:
Can our guy have been specifically sworn to William Marshall at one point or at least served under him during the kerfuffle with France a few years prior?
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He will have certainly served in those campaigns, not sure about being sworn to him. It would involve me pinning his vague lands to a map which would take some time and research with very little to show for it in the quest given that you left that world behind
 
DragonParadox said:
He will have certainly served in those campaigns, not sure about being sworn to him. It would involve me pinning his vague lands to a map which would take some time and research with very little to show for it in the quest given that you left that world behind
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You might want to give that a little more thought... where a person lived, who they associated with, etc. Seems kind of important?
 
Still to have seen war by 23 is pretty impressive. Considering irl isn't Asoiaf where knights are in their teenage years and thrown into war. He must have been a squire or was very good and knighted in his late teens. I'm guessing it was againts France in 1217ish
 
Snowfire said:
Um...no? Not really. You'd go to war in the feudal period at age 16. Sometimes even younger.
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A 16 year noble squire isn't going to be put in any meaningful place of danger or responsibility. Unless something has gone horribly wrong and they are needed.

Peasants are another thing entirely. 16 year old peasants might go to war but they aren't being groomed to represent pinnacle of fighting men.

Realisticly a knight is not going to put his 16 year old squire(barely into his apprenticeship might I add) in a wedge(or wherever you want) and expect anything good to come out if it. You would only bring your squire into battle if you knew he wouldn't die and had progressed well in training.

So idk how well a 16 year old kid 2 years into squirehood would do in the battlefield

Anyway it was poor wording on my part, I should have said I'm "its impressive that he's seen war before 23" because the last war England was involved in was the Barons war 1215-17. Where he would have been between 17 and 19. So either he was a very good squire and accompanied his knight in the thick of stuff or he was so good that he was knighted early. That's why I was impressed.
 
Hoppylo said:
Anyway it was poor wording on my part, I should have said I'm "its impressive that he's seen war before 23" because the last war England was involved in was the Barons war 1215-17. Where he would have been between 17 and 19. So either he was a very good squire and accompanied his knight in the thick of stuff or he was so good that he was knighted early. That's why I was impressed.
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...I wanna bet DP's sweatdroping on reading this, and realizing there seems to be an actual historic consequence to the out-of-nowhere ruling, and it actually has some repercussions.
:V
 
I kinda like the fluff behind both of the plans from Snowfire and Belligerentgnu rather than the actual numbers, traits, and feats picked... so i might change my vote since i think the imagery and drama on one of these plans is more compelling than the other.

Also as a personal opinion, i am really thankful that we are not in the Pathfinder universe, even though the Pathfinder setting is great, i really hate their pantheons and take on religion, the gods of Forgotten Realms is way better in terms of backstory and execution (Ao, the top god of the setting merely serves as a watcher and as a servant of another greater god? Great twist there!)
 
butchock said:
the gods of Forgotten Realms is way better in terms of backstory and execution
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I would argue that some. Most dnd settings, main and third party alike, have gods be pants-on-head idiotic, either due to iffy writing, or to iffy worldbuilding.
*cough* The wall of Faithless *cough*

Forgotten Realms is, nevertheless, a death world.
It's great for adventuring of all variety, but kinda problematic for trying to run either a grand Strategic (as ASWaH was attempting), or a low-power character-centric (as this aims to) story.
Because there are CR 30+ Bigger Fish just strolling around.
 
[X] Crake
[X] My Body Was To Guard the Servants of the Lord

Will our horse get its own sheet as an animal companion?
 
Welp.
Here's to hoping we won't have to mournfully post Invincible en mass at any point of the quest, eh?
 
[X] Glorious Knight
-[X] Point Buy: STR 14, DEX 10, CON 14, INT 10, WIS 10, CHA 16 (14 +2 racial)
-[X] Archetypes: Courtly Knight
-[X] Order: Order of the Cockatrice
-[X] Feats: Power Attack, Furious Focus
-[X] Traits: Influence(Diplomacy), Cooperative Combatant
-[X] Skill Ranks (12): 2 Diplomacy, 2 Handle Animal, 2 Intimidate, 2 Perception, 1 Ride, 2 Sense Motive, 1 Survival
-[X] Mount: Horse! (Bodyguard Companion Archetype)
 
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