Age of Ice and Blood: A Pathfinder System Heroic Fantasy Quest

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The question here is another.

If he marries the woman and moves her to the Keep, he will continue working for us, but probably as a guard.
If he marries her and can't move with us, he will likely leave.
If he doesn't, everything keeps the same.
Well, we are going to need to keep guards stationed at the keep, but that doesn't mean Hugh would be doing that permanently. It's not uncommon for sailors and soldiers to be away from home for months at a time, after all.

I'm going to go with a tentative acceptance for now, pending Snowfire's write-in.

[X] Accept, if he manages to marry the woman, which you privately doubt, he can bring her to the Wayfarer's Respite
 
So, any advice on the religious front?

It would propably better for both if they marry in a way the locals consider legit, which might involve pagan priests.
 
There is also the matter of fact that we are going to employ somebody just because he married her.

That sits odd with me. What are we going to do with their children eventually?
 
There is also the matter of fact that we are going to employ somebody just because he married her.

That sits odd with me. What are we going to do with their children eventually?
Well, we are/were the lord of these people.

It must seem natural that their families will be in our service and their children and so on.
 
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But not under the local laws. They are not under obligation to serve us forever with their families.
Time to introduce them to the wonderful discoveries of modern science, like feudalism! ;) It would be a funny change from a lot of the SV Uplift Protagonists to see someone bringing people forwards into the 13th century.
 
But not under the local laws. They are not under obligation to serve us forever with their families.

The people you brought with you do not care about the local laws. Why should they after all, one place is as strange and alien as the other and they have barely set down roots in any one realm. The notion that the laws of the realm have dominion over one as more than the ability of said realm to enforce them is comparatively modern. You are not going to find many legalistic understandings of the world among thirteenth century Norman armsmen.
 
But not under the local laws. They are not under obligation to serve us forever with their families.
Under no legal obligation, but definitely a social and financial one. Being in service to a wealthy and powerful lord/family/House is seen as a good thing in this era and throughout most of Human history.

They get a modicum of protection and steady employment, both of which can be hard to come by for a lot of people.
 
[X] Accept, if he manages to marry the woman, which you privately doubt, he can bring her to the Wayfarer's Respite
-[X] Gently attempt to point out to the young man (when did you become the older voice of wisdom, you wonder?) that all of Christendom has won and lost wars over matters of faith.
--[X] "Though our Lord God surely protects and guides us still, and we hold to the commandments," if perhaps bending them, you do not say, "it would be folly to assume one raised in these lands and beliefs would abandon the faith of their entire life so easily."
--[X] "If you wish to make her your wife under God, I will not speak against it. But you must understand that this land is far more hers than ours, and to be a good husband as our faith demands you must love her as she is, not as she might become.
--[X] "Remember that it was written: 'For husbands, this means love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up his life for her.'"
 
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[X] Accept, if he manages to marry the woman, which you privately doubt, he can bring her to the Wayfarer's Respite
-[X] Gently attempt to point out to the young man (when did you become the older voice of wisdom, you wonder?) that all of Christendom has won and lost wars over matters of faith.
-[X] "Though our Lord God surely protects and guides us still, and we hold to the commandments," if perhaps bending them, you do not say, "it would be folly to assume one raised in these lands and beliefs would abandon the faith of their entire life so easily."
-[X] "If you wish to make her your wife under God, I will not speak against it. But you must understand that this land is far more hers than ours, and to be a good husband as our faith demands you must love her as she is, not as she might become.
-[X] Remember that it was written: "For husbands, this means love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up his life for her."
 
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  • [X] Accept, if he manages to marry the woman, which you privately doubt, he can bring her to the Wayfarer's Respite
    -[X] Gently attempt to point out to the young man (when did you become the older voice of wisdom, you wonder?) that all of Christendom has won and lost wars over matters of faith.
    --[X] "Though our Lord God surely protects and guides us still, and we hold to the commandments," if perhaps bending them, you do not say, "it would be folly to assume one raised in these lands and beliefs would abandon the faith of their entire life so easily."
    --[X] "If you wish to make her your wife under God, I will not speak against it. But you must understand that this land is far more hers than ours, and to be a good husband as our faith demands you must love her as she is, not as she might become.
    --[X] "Remember that it was written: 'For husbands, this means love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up his life for her.'"
    [X] Accept, if he manages to marry the woman, which you privately doubt, he can bring her to the Wayfarer's Respite
    -[X] Gently attempt to point out to the young man (when did you become the older voice of wisdom, you wonder?) that all of Christendom has won and lost wars over matters of faith.
    -[X] "Though our Lord God surely protects and guides us still, and we hold to the commandments," if perhaps bending them, you do not say, "it would be folly to assume one raised in these lands and beliefs would abandon the faith of their entire life so easily."
    -[X] "If you wish to make her your wife under God, I will not speak against it. But you must understand that this land is far more hers than ours, and to be a good husband as our faith demands you must love her as she is, not as she might become.
    -[X] Remember that it was written: "For husbands, this means love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up his life for her."
 
Arc 12 Post 3: Sailing by Heart
Sailing by Heart

The First Day of Elnu-eza (Elnu Ascendant), 1349 A. L. (After Landfall)

The realization that Hugh might choose to go his own way if you refuse here, no matter what you may think of the wisdom of his choices, is a kernel of black fear at the heart of a maelstrom of uncertainty. Fifteen of you in all are all that remain of your home, of your land and of your people... and yet perhaps there might be some legacy to be found yet. Still, you do not think that this will work... and yet you have been wrong before.

"Alright, if you wed this woman than she may come and find shelter at your side, as true as all the folks that have ever sworn a vow to the Verleys." His face lights up with such relief it's all that you can do not to flinch at the sudden feeling that you are an imposter, hope and fear as much unbalanced in your heart as it is in his. When did I become the voice of wisdom, you wonder, finding no answer but the obvious, now because it is expected of me.

"Yet..." you raise a hand in warning. "Recall that Christendom had won wars and it has lost them over matters of faith."

"But if they lost wars than they were in the wrong and God showed it to them on the field of battle." The words are spoken with such conviction you almost do not wish to challenge them so as not to sink the slender raft that he has built in his own mind to account for your marooning upon another world.

"Pray recall where we set off from on that fateful journey more than a year ago," you say as gently as you may

"That's not... I'm sure we'll win the next war." Now his words have more the ring of plea than certainty.

"We most certainly are not going to be winning any crusades for we are farther from the Holy Land now than we are from the moon and sun." For which you find yourself utterly relieved, but now is not the time to say so. "Though our Lord God surely protects and guides us still and we hold to the Commandments," if perhaps bending them, you also do not say in so many words. "It would be folly to assume one raised in these lands and beliefs would abandon the faith of their entire life so easily."

"But she has to, for her soul's sake. I don't want her to..." the fear in his eyes grows all the brighter, but before the spark can catch into inferno you cut him off:

"It was given to us to live in a miraculous time, to come to a place unlike any other in song and tale, but we were given no special insight into it. Even the shape of the sea and the land is different, so the captain has said, and I see no reason to doubt him. I would not want to guess at the fate of souls, so take your life one day at a time and see to living it well and by that you shall be judged. If you wish to make this woman your wife under God, I will not speak against it. But you must understand that this land is far more hers than ours, and to be a good husband as our faith demands you must love her as she is, not as she might become." It feels at once strange to say all these words at once and undeniably right, not because you have before this given any thought to marriage, but because of the girl you have taken as your ward, which you have never contemplated changing in that manner.

"Never rightly thought about it like that... maybe I'm the fool Tom called me after all," Hugh says, looking at his feet again.

"Life makes fools of us all from time to time," you assure him, managing a rueful smile that surprises even you a little. As frustrating as this conversation might have been there was no malice to his deeds and that is worth quite a lot on its own. "Remember that it was written: 'For husbands, this means love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up his life for her.'"

"I'll do that... thank you, my lord," the young man replies.

"Thank me by being more careful with your boots," you say sternly. "That last pair is coming out of this season's pay," you add to the respectful bow on the way out.

It's only once he is out of the cabin that you sigh in relief at having found the right words. A job well done even if it was not one you had been expecting

***​

The fifth Day of Elnu-eza (Elnu Ascendant), 1349 A. L. (After Landfall)

Over the next few days you take the chance to speak to more of the men of the Fellowship, just to be sure you will not be blindsided so easily again. Thankfully you do not have anymore marriage plans in the works and the worst use to which anyone has put last season's pay are the sorts of bracelets, chains and rings that one often sees on fighting men who do not trust the coin of one land over another. Alas, most of them had not bargained very well for their purchases according to Antonio and so you ask the captain to give a few pointers as lessons in magic become shorter day over day. There is only so much one can explain of the surface before delving into secrets most have neither the skill nor the desire to deal with.

Thus the journey passes easily enough, with the weather holding fair and surprisingly clear for early spring. So clear in truth that when Inge by her magics spots something odd ahead of you the Marcella is still ten leagues out.

"There's three of those little boats we saw at the Mouth of the World ahead of us, sailing north along the coast as we're traveling south!" She shouts down. "If we keep steady we'll meet them today, I think."

What do you do?

[] Avoid the canoes, perhaps it is overcautious of you but you do not want to risk a confrontation

[] Sail on, if they choose to approach you let them

[] Purposely sail to meet them

[] Write in


OOC: This along with the last update was a really fun to write character piece, hope you guys enjoy.
 
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Not surprised to see our men have been squandering their pay, I was expecting most of it to be spent on prostitutes anyway, but still... 😩

I'm wary of canoeing Knikut. We've not had pleasant interactions with them thus far (something of an understatement, really), so expecting better of them this time is probably just asking for trouble. There are only three canoes, though, so maybe they aren't looking to cause us trouble this time?

Perhaps Owlady was observing us on their behalf through the Winter? If so, it is possible they are seeking to meet with us for peaceful purposes.
 
Hmm.

This may be a mistake, but I'm thinking we should meet up with these guys. To clear the air, if nothing else.

[X] Purposely sail to meet them
 
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