Ace Combat XCOM: Enemy Skies

[hYGP]

Normally, it's pretty bad practice to ping everybody who's voting. In this case, however, since the voting is kinda beyond my ability to use the tally, I'm going to quote all of you so that I can clarify what I think you mean when you're voting.

Waaait, so Briefings aren't just for "Pick X Country" but the example, and if we go [C] Countries is a briefing on all countries?

Plan Change:

[X] Plan Bridge to Peace
- [X] [HQ] The Lighthouse
- [X] [COM] North Point Chief of Airstaff Stephen Pulford
- [X] Organize XCOM (100 Focus)
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Pilots
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Scientists
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Scientists
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Engineers
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Logisticians
- [X] Delegate Tasks (25 Focus)
-- [X] Avril Mead: Assess and Repair assets
--- [X] Lighthouse
- [X] Delegate Tasks (25 Focus)
-- [X] Mobius One: Train his fellow Pilots
- [X] Delegate Tasks (25 Focus)
-- [X] Trigger: Train his fellow Pilots
- [X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
-- [X] 8x F-35As
- [X] Read Briefings (50 Focus)
-- [X] Countries
-- [X] Planes

500 Focus all in all.

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[X] Plan Bridge to Peace

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[X] Plan Bridge to Peace

Apparently Mobius One is one of our pilots listed on the front page for the X-COM group.

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[X] Plan Bridge to Peace

Yeah, the F-35As are a good pick. Pricey, but actually good multi-role planes that are more likely to survive a mission.

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KnightDisciple, Rovert10, and Valerian, I'm putting your single-line votes under Hannz's new Bridge to Peace plan; the significant difference is that rather than use the briefing action to read up on Erusea, Osea, Yuktobania, and Belka, the briefing action chooses to skim the briefing material on all countries and planes.

[X] Stable Ground
-[X] [HQ] The Lighthouse
-[X] [COM] North Point Chief of Airstaff Stephen Pulford
-[X] Organize XCOM (100 Focus)
-[X] Read Briefings (50 Focus)
--[X] Countries
--[X] Planes
-[X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
--[X] Scientists
-[X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
--[X] Pilots
-[X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
--[X] Any surviving Erusean Aces
-[X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
--[X]Engineers
-[X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
--[X] Logisticians
-[X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
--[X] 2x SU-33
--[X] 2x F-15S/MTD
--[X] 4x Gripen E
-[X] Delegate tasks (25 Focus)
--[X] Avril Mead: Assess and repair assets
-[X] Delegate Tasks (25 Focus)
--[X] Mobius One: Train his fellow Pilots
-[X] Delegate Tasks (25 Focus)
--[X] Trigger: Train his fellow Pilots

A plan for 500 focus.

I want to hold off buying any of the superplanes or advanced fighters until we have a good grasp on how much we're spending on them. The SU-33s can carry EMLs and HVAA, making them good against aerial threats. The F-15S/MTDs are probably better, maneuverability wise, than the F-15C and the Gripens are quite nimble and probably cheaper than some of the other advanced multirole fighters.
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[X] Stable Ground

@huhYeahGoodPoint so we can pre-spend for some briefings before we have to actually select a plan? If so we should definitely do that so we have some idea what the price tags are for things.

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[X] Stable Ground

Those aren't the only two routes. Nations don't have to unify to stand united or have a military alliance. Did the Allies have to become one country in order to win WW2? No.

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Himmelhand, Gunman, I'm putting you down as voting for Uncle's Stable Ground plan; this bit is actually fairly clear. Sadly, the motion to get more briefings upfront does not have the three-person support I asked for, so I am saying that you won't get it unless I am told otherwise before when I close the vote sometime today.

[X] Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative!
-[X] [HQ] Fortress Intolerance
-[X] [COM] Long Caster
-[X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
--[X] 8 ADFX-02 Morgan
-[X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
--[X] 100 UAV-45
-[X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
--[X] 100 MQ-99
-[X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
--[X] Sky Eye
-[X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
--[X] Mobius Squadron
-[X] Delegate tasks (25 Focus)
--[X] Scrap Queen: Check everyone's fighter planes for damage, fix if possible and condemn to the irreparable ones to the scrapyard for spare parts.
-[X] Delegate tasks (25) Focus
--[X] Mobius 1: Train all the fighter pilots. Give special training to Trigger.
-[X] Read Briefings (50 Focus)
--[X] Countries
--[X] Planes
--[X] Grunder Industries

North Point is a studiously neutral nation. And Fortress Intolerance has been destroyed and abandoned since Ace Combat 2. Basing there would make sense for secrecy, I guess. And neutrality.

I chose Long Caster because narratively speaking, if he received the message he might think he's the one being ordered to make X-COM's interceptor force. And won't that be a boon for secrecy because no one expects the over all commander is someone low down the chain of command?

I chose the ADFX-02 Morgan because even Trigger had a hard time with an F-22 in combating the UFO. So what if he, no, everyone was in a fighter that is even better at close combat? A plane that has a weapon that hits at the speed of light? A weapon that is instantly at the same level as the plasma cannons of the Aliens?

I chose the UAV-45 and MQ-99 to help pad our numbers during a fight and at worst to kamikaze into the UFO's. Also because they can't be mind controlled.

I chose Sky Eye because he's Mobius 1's AWACS Partner, and he's got lots more experience wrangling ace squadrons than anyone else, even Sky Eye, because of how many scraps he's been in alongside Mobius 1.

I chose Mobius Squadron because hey, let's add more ace pilots in a squadron here. And they're Mobius 1's next longest partners.

We need to have the fighter planes checked up, and so we get Scrap Queen to check them out. We also need to train our pilots, and Mobius 1 is the best pilot (by how many missions he's already done compared to everyone else who only participated in just 1 war) whose location is known. So let's get him training pilots.

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[X] Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative!

Not gonna lie, I feel that the Fortress is cooler. Basically it.

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[X] Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative!
-[X] [HQ] Fortress Intolerance
-[X] [COM] Long Caster
-[X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
--[X] 8 ADFX-02 Morgan
-[X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
--[X] 100 UAV-45
-[X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
--[X] 100 MQ-99
-[X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
--[X] Sky Eye
-[X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
--[X] Mobius Squadron
-[X] Delegate tasks (25 Focus)
--[X] Scrap Queen: Check everyone's fighter planes for damage, fix if possible and condemn to the irreparable ones to the scrapyard for spare parts.
-[X] Delegate tasks (25) Focus
--[X] Mobius 1: Train all the fighter pilots. Give special training to Trigger.

Not a fan of the drones, but love the idea of an ace squadron flying in Morgans. I also prefer Long Caster over some OC, as long as the food puns keep coming.

@huhYeahGoodPoint Would it be possible to have McKinsey and Bandog as commanders though? Just have McKinsey somehow survive the Lighthouse War in Ciaphas Cain fashion as the Hero of the IUN/Osea and be the face of XCOM while Bandog is the one going behind his back to make sure shit isn't fubar.

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IcePickLobotomy, I'm counting your vote as a vote for kilopi505's new modified plan, but I am counting ZX03's vote as for a different plan entirely, due to lacking the briefing action for Countries, Planes, and Grunder Industries.

Also, ZX03, possible is something completely different from wise. I am confirming it is possible.

I'll probably close voting either tonight Apr 7, 2019 at 9:00 PM or tomorrow; depends on how much background work I've completed in the meanwhile.

 

[Uncle]

Himmelhand, Gunman, I'm putting you down as voting for Uncle's Stable Ground plan; this bit is actually fairly clear. Sadly, the motion to get more briefings upfront does not have the three-person support I asked for, so I am saying that you won't get it unless I am told otherwise before when I close the vote sometime today.

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Just to clarify, are you saying that my plan needs one more vote to more than one briefing or any briefing at all?

 

[hYGP]

Just to clarify, are you saying that my plan needs one more vote to more than one briefing or any briefing at all?

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I am saying that because there are not more people calling for the briefing before the update, you will receive the briefing in the update.

 

[Gunman]

Just to clarify, are you saying that my plan needs one more vote to more than one briefing or any briefing at all?

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Do you want to spend the Focus to get the briefing now? What is your argument for it?

 

[Himmelhand]

Do you want to spend the Focus to get the briefing now? What is your argument for it?

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We should spend now so we don't waste Focus on trying to buy planes we can't afford and may possibly annoy suppliers asking for. Right now any attempts at acquiring new planes are a total shot in the dark.

 

[Uncle]

Do you want to spend the Focus to get the briefing now? What is your argument for it?

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We should spend now so we don't waste Focus on trying to buy planes we can't afford and may possibly annoy suppliers asking for. Right now any attempts at acquiring new planes are a total shot in the dark.

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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

@huhYeahGoodPoint
How much focus will it cost for just a briefing on the planes now?

 

[hYGP]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

@huhYeahGoodPoint
How much focus will it cost for just a briefing on the planes now?

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50 Focus, to get a general overview of every aircraft you can get. Plus a voting extension so you can use the info and so that I can finish figuring out the costs

If you wanted to just get an overview of the dogfight-capable aircraft, probably 30 Focus or so.

 

[Gunman]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

@huhYeahGoodPoint
How much focus will it cost for just a briefing on the planes now?

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We should spend now so we don't waste Focus on trying to buy planes we can't afford and may possibly annoy suppliers asking for. Right now any attempts at acquiring new planes are a total shot in the dark.

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50 Focus, to get a general overview of every aircraft you can get. Plus a voting extension so you can use the info and so that I can finish figuring out the costs

If you wanted to just get an overview of the dogfight-capable aircraft, probably 30 Focus or so.

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I vote to spend the Focus on the briefing now. I"ll leave it to Uncle to decide how much. That makes three voters.

 

[Uncle]

Adding 50 focus puts us a bit too close to the red zone for me. 30 sounds good though.

 

[ZX03]

@huhYeahGoodPoint please count my vote as one for kilopi505's modified plan, i've read it and it's still what i want more or less.

 

[LucidProp]

I vote to spend the Focus on the briefing now. I"ll leave it to Uncle to decide how much. That makes three voters.

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Since we're already spending focus on Planes, then sure, let's go with that.

 

[kilopi505]

Is voting period over? If not...

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Vote Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative!

 

[KnightDisciple]

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Please stop shouting at the thread.

 

[veekie]

[X] Plan Bridge to Peace

Is voting period over? If not...

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Vote Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative!

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This is a good way to lose votes for being visually obnoxious fyi

 

[hYGP]

This is the 30 Focus briefing for dogfight-capable aircraft.

Spoiler: irrelevant shitposting

look upon my lists, ye mighty, and despair

also jfc I had to simulate creating an entire airforce from scratch to make this list i hope you're happy with it

it is 3 am, and I regret so damn much

Spoiler: F-14D Super Tomcat

F-14D Super Tomcat
Cost: 1800 IC
Carrier-capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
LAAM
8AAM
QAAM

A large swing-wing carrier-capable aircraft. Designed to succeed the F-14A Tomcat, the F-14A Super Tomcat boasts better avionics, displays, and multi-targeting abilities. Its swing-wing gives it excellent dogfighting capabilities at both supersonic and subsonic speeds, while its powerful powerplant enables high-speed interceptions.

Spoiler: F/A-18C Hornet

F/A-18C Hornet
Cost: 1400 IC
Carrier-capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
LASM
SAAM
SOD

A multirole carrier-borne aircraft. Designed around the limitations of carrier capacity, this plane is capable of engaging land, sea, and air targets.

Spoiler: Su-33 Flanker-D

Su-33 Flanker-D
Cost: 2000 IC
Carrier capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
HVAA
LASM
QAAM
RCL
EML*

A large carrier based aircraft. Based on the Su-27, this aircraft was designed for carrier operations. Its canards give this plane excellent turning characteristics, although a slight amount of speed was sacrificed. The main and tail wings can be folded up to increase the storage space available on an aircraft carrier.

Spoiler: MiG-29K Fulcrum-D

MiG-29K Fulcrum-D
Cost: 1700 IC
Carrier capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
4AAM
QAAM
LASM
LAGM
GPB

A carrier-based version of the MiG-29M built initially to serve as a light fighter alongside the Su-33. Delayed for years, it was finally modernized and put into production to fill in the gap left by the Yuktobanian (and client states') aging Su-33 fleets. Perhaps in response to the Hornet's ability to do so, it is capable of 'buddy' refueling.

Spoiler: F/A-18F Super Hornet

F/A-18F Super Hornet
Cost: 2400 IC
Carrier capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
QAAM
LASM
EML*
4AAM
SAAM

A carrier-based multirole aircraft. A successor to the F-18C Hornet, the F/A-18F boasts excellent performance at medium speeds and strong air-to-ground capabilities.

Spoiler: F-35C Lightning II

F-35C Lightning II
Cost: 3000 IC
Carrier capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
SOD
4AAM
8AGM
SAAM
LASM
QAAM

A stealth-multirole aircraft. The F-35C is the naval variant, featuring longer folding wings, reinforced landing gears, and arresting hooks. It is designed to replace the F/A-18 line in its entirety.

Spoiler: X-02A Wyvern

X-02A Wyvern
Cost: 23000 IC
Carrier Capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
4AAM
6AAM
SOD
QAAM
4AGM

A carrier-capable fifth-generation fighter developed in Erusea. Development of the unique switchblade wing aircraft was fitful and stuttering, beginning in the 1980s but hampered by budget cuts, the Usean coup d'etat, and Ulysses. The program ultimately completed in the later stages of the Usean Continental War. After the war, efforts to fully mass-produce the X-02A were made, but eventually abandoned due to the staggering cost; at its most optimistic, the program projected affording 1 at the cost of 2 F-22s.

Spoiler: X-02S Strike Wyvern

X-02S Strike Wyvern
Cost: 20000 IC
Carrier Capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
4AAM
LASM
QAAM
EML*

A stealth fighter. Superlative in every respect, the cost broke Erusean will both times the Wyvern line was created; thus, it has never truly entered mass production and has always been an experimental fighter. There is little doubt, however, from pilots who have faced or used this aircraft, that it is absolutely worth its incredible price.

Spoiler: XFA-27 Scarface

XFA-27 Scarface
Cost: 18000 IC
Carrier Capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
SOD
MSTM
ECM
XAGM
XMAA
ODMM

A stealth multirole aircraft. Developed as an experimental last resort, this plane boasts incredible manueverability and acceleration, courtesy of its all-moving tails, canards, nozzles, and ludicrously overpowered engines.

Spoiler: CFA-44 Nosferatu

CFA-44 Nosferatu
Cost: 15000 IC
Carrier capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
ADMM**
EML**
ECM

A stealth carrier-based air supremacy fighter. Equipped with experimental weaponry attached to an extremely maneuverable airframes, comprehensive electronic suite, and unbelievably powerful engines, the only true downside is its low stability.

Spoiler: F-5E Tiger II

F-5E Tiger II
Cost: 900 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
UGB
HCAA
RKTL

A small fighter aircraft. A low cost, lightweight fighter, it has respectable capabilities in all aspects, with the additional bonus of being easy to fly.

Spoiler: BAE Hawk

BAE Hawk
Cost: 1000 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
QAAM

A fighter aircraft. Originally intended to be a trainer aircraft, this aircraft possess clean controls but lacks large weapons capacity.

Spoiler: Mig-21bis Fishbed

Mig-21bis Fishbed
Cost: 70 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
MGP
RKT
SAAM

A small fighter jet. At least four decades old, this aircraft boasts the record for the most manufactured single jet aircraft; due to its incredible sales numbers, it can achieve incredibly low prices, and vice versa. Unfortunately, the aircraft also shows its age, unable to equip many modern avionics, radars, or weapons period, as well as significantly underperforming more modern airframes.

Spoiler: F-15E Strike Eagle

F15E Strike Eagle
Cost: 2400 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
6AAM
SFFS
TLS*
4AGM
SAAM
QAAM

A multirole strike aircraft. A variant of the F-15C Eagle, the F-15E Strike Eagle is equally capable of conducting air-to-air and air-to-ground missions. Without compromising the F-15C's strong air-to-air capabilities, the F-15E vastly enhances air-to-ground abilities, becoming a powerful contender in all aspects.

Spoiler: F-16C Fighting Falcon

F-16C Fighting Falcon
Cost: 1700 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
4AAM
GPB
SASM
HCAA
QAAM

A low-weight fighter. Developed from the F-16's original purpose as a lightweight close-range dogfighter, the F-16C Fighting Falcon has since grown to become equally lethal in both air-to-air and air-to-ground missions, without becoming significantly higher cost.

Spoiler: J35J Draken

J35J Draken
Cost: 1100 IC
Special Weapons:
SAAM
UGB
RCL
HVAA

A delta-wing fighter aircraft. Its usage of the double delta wing was innovative for its time, allowing it STOL, Mach 2, and respectable low-speed manueverability capabilities.

Spoiler: F-2A Viper Zero

F-2A Viper Zero
Cost: 2000 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
LASM
HVAA
RKT
UGB

A low-weight multirole aircraft. Based upon the F-16 Fighting Falcon, the F-2A Viper Zero specializes in anti-ship warfare. In accordance with its new mission, the internal electronics, materials, and overall wing size have been greatly changed.

Spoiler: F-20A Tigershark

F20A Tigershark
Cost: 1500 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
SAAM
GPB
XAGM

A lightweight fighter. Developed to succeed the F-5E and compete with the F-16C Fighting Falcon, this plane boasts a very short aircraft startup time, and its modern engine provides a great advantage over the F-5E's outdated twin engines. Despite its age, it retains excellent maneuvering and handling.

Spoiler: Gripen E

Gripen E
Cost: 2100 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
SASM
6AAM
LACM

A lightweight multirole fighter. Featuring a larger body, a retrofitted large-thrust engine, advanced avionics, and more, it is a clear advancement over the Gripen C which it replaces.

Spoiler: Mig-29A Fulcrum

Mig-29A Fulcrum
Cost: 1000 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
HPAA
LAGM
4AAM
QAAM
SAAM

A mid-level air superiority fighter. Meant to contest the F-16C Fighting Falcon, the Mig-29A Fulcrum eventually ended up shifting more towards an air-to-ground role, though it remains strong in air-to-air combat.

Spoiler: Su-27 Flanker-B

Su-27 Flanker-B
Cost: 1300 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
SAAM
QAAM
4AAM
UGB
SFFS

A large air superiority fighter. Developed to compete with the F-15 Eagle, the Flanker's powerful engine and refined airframe gives it excellent mobility.

Spoiler: Su-30M2 Flanker-F2

Su-30M2 Flanker-F2
Cost: 1700 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
HPAA
4AGM
4AAM

A multirole fighter. It features retrofitted avionics, a vertical tail wing, and enhanced air-to-ground weaponry. Sol Squadron's plane of choice.

Spoiler: Su-37 Terminator

Su-37 Terminator
Cost: 2500 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
HPAA
4AAM
TLS*
HVAA
4AAM
QAAM
SASM
ODMM

A multipurpose fighter. Highly agile, it is an improvement over the canard-equipped Su-27M, thanks to its thrust-vectoring nozzles.

Spoiler: Tornado F3

Tornado F3
Cost: 1400 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
XMAA
SAAM

A swing-wing twin engine air superiority fighter. Its fuselage is extended from the original Tornado GR.1 to accomodate multiple target radars.

Spoiler: X-29A

X-29A
Cost: 2800 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
QAAM
SAAM
HPAA

An air superiority fighter. Its forward swept wings and canards allow it superior maneuverability, at the expense of stability. It is the first forward swept wing aircraft to be capable of supersonic flight.

Spoiler: AFTI F-16 Agile Falcon

AFTI F-16 Agile Falcon
Cost: 2200 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
4AAM
UGB
SASM
HCAA
QAAM

A fighter aircraft. Designed with the F-16 as a base, the AFTI F-16 Agile Falcon only adds canards and some improved avionics, though the mainline fighter has since surpassed it.

Spoiler: F-15 S/MTD

F-15 S/MTD
Cost: 3600 IC
Carrier Capable: No
Special Weapons:
SAAM
LAGM
FAEB
XMAA

An experimental air superiority fighter. Designed to demonstrate thrust-vectoring technology's effect on existing airframes, the F-15 S/MTD features canards and thrust-vectoring to add to an already maneuverable F-15 airframe, giving the F-15 S/MTD remarkable agility for its size and weight.

Spoiler: F-15SE Silent Eagle

F-15SE Silent Eagle
Cost: 3600 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
QAAM
GPB
HPAA
XAGM

An experimental air superiority fighter. Featuring an internal weapons bay and stealth capabilities, the F-15SE is an attack aircraft with increased stealth capabilities with a lesser pricetag.

Spoiler: AFTI F-15 Agile Eagle

AFTI F-15 Agile Eagle
Cost: 3600 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
6AAM
SAAM
QAAM

A fighter aircraft. Built from an F-15 base, the AFTI F-15 Agile Eagle sports segmented wings like the AFTI F-4, giving an able dogfighter the ability to go blow for blow with the best and come out on top.

Spoiler: JAS-39 Gripen New Generation

JAS-39 Gripen New Generation
Cost: 2500 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
RCL
LASM
LRAA

A multirole fighter. An improved variant on the Gripen C, this aircraft performs each of its subspecialties well.

Spoiler: Rafale M

Rafale M
Cost: 4100 IC
Carrier capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
HCAA
LACM
LAAM
SOD
LASM

A multirole aircraft. Capable of carrier operation, its long-range capabilities make it a terrifying adversary at long range, and its maneuverability gives it daunting close-range combat.

Spoiler: Su-35 Super Flanker

Su-35 Super Flanker
Cost: 1800 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
XLAA
UGB

A fighter aircraft. Adding canards and superior avionics to the already exceptionally agile Su-27, the resulting aircraft is truly deserving of the moniker "Super Flanker".

Spoiler: Su-35S Flanker-E

Su-35S Flanker-E
Cost: 2300 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
LAAM
6AAM
LASM
QAAM

A fighter aircraft. Designed to succeed the Su-27 Flanker-B, the Su-35S integrates the lessons of the Su-35 into the mainline, and then upgrades those capabilities even further, to create a Flanker to surpass all Flankers.

Spoiler: Su-30SM

Su-30SM
Cost: 2500 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weaponry:
6AAM
QAAM
LAGM

A multirole fighter. Based on the Su-30, the Su-30SM features thrust vectoring nozzles, canards, and modern avionics, giving the Su-30SM nearly unparrelled mobility in the hands of an equally unparalleled expert.

Spoiler: MiG-35 Fulcrum-F

MiG-35 Fulcrum-F
Cost: 2400 IC
Carrier Capable: No
Special Weapons:
6AAM
QAAM
LAGM
GRKT
PLSL*

A state-of-the-art version of the MiG-29 produced largely in response to equally modernized F-16 variants. First revealed at the Verusean Federation Freedom Exposition in 2007. Versions with thrust vectoring and carrier capability are allegedly under production, but the Yuktobanian government has said nothing.

Spoiler: Su-47 Berkut

Su-47 Berkut
Cost: 2500 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
SAAM
UGB
QAAM

An experimental forward-swept wing fighter. With its extreme manueverability, cutting edge avionics, and superior air-to-air weaponry, this plane is without equal in a dogfight.

Spoiler: Typhoon

Typhoon
Cost: 2500 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
LAAM
8AGM
HCAA
SAAM
SASM
RCL

A fighter aircraft. A combination of close-coupled delta canards and delta wings provide excellent aerodynamic capabilities, while its excellent fire control system allows it to texcel at air combat against multiple targets. The sum of these two strengths results in a plane aptly named the "Typhoon".

Spoiler: F-24 Saqr

F-24 Saqr
Cost: 3400 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
4AAM
SASM
HCAA
QAAM

A fighter aircraft. Built as an alternative to the F-35 and as a successor to the F-16, it lacks the offensive power of the F-35, the carrier capability, or the optimized production lines; it was supposed to be cheaper than the F-35, but lack of funding meant that the costs have continued to be relatively large.

Spoiler: F-32 Aquila

F-32 Aquila
Cost: 4000 IC
Carrier capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
SOD
4AAM
4AGM
SAAM
LASM
QAAM

A multirole carrier craft. Designed as a competitor to the F-35 Lightning II, its problems with integration and avionics ultimately resulted in devestatingly poor international sales; as a result, its sales never managed to fully recoup the costs of development.

Spoiler: Mitsubishi X-2 Shinshin

Mitsubishi X-2 Shinshin
Cost: 4200 IC
Carrier Capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
LASM
XSDB
LAAM
QAAM
4AAM

An experimental aircraft with 3D thrust vectoring and impressive high angle-of-attack flight granting it one of the highest degrees of maneuverability among fifth-generation fighters. However, the prototype entered the market after the F-22, which had significantly superior stealth, and concurrently with the F-35, which ended up being significantly cheaper, spelling doom for the project.

Spoiler: Bae Systems Replica

Bae Systems Replica
Cost: 4500 IC
Carrier Capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
HCAA
LAAM
SASM
LASM
GPBL

An experimental aircraft developed by North Point as a stealth multirole fighter, to replace the aging Tornado. Much like the YF-23, importance was put primarily on low observability. It was ultimately passed on by North Point for the F-35, but it was still produced in small numbers.

Spoiler: Mig 1.44 Flatpack

Mig 1.44 Flatpack
Cost: 2500 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
QAAM
UGB
4AAM
RCL
SOD
XMAA

An experimental multirole aircraft. Its large canards and thrust-vectoring nozzles give it notable manueverability.

Spoiler: F-22A Raptor

F22A Raptor
Cost: 5000 IC
Carrier capable: No (no, mission 20 doesn't count)
Special Weapons:
QAAM
XSDB
8AAM
4AAM
SASM
SOD

A stealth air superiority fighter. The F-22A Raptor is the go-to example for what an air superiority fighter should look like: the absolute ability to obliterate an enemy that cannot possibly respond. It is strongest when fighting from long range, but that does not remotely mean that it is weak in close-range combat.

Spoiler: Su-57

Su57
Cost: 4900 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
4AAM
GPB
PLSL*
QAAM

A stealth air superiority fighter. Built as an answer to the F-22A Raptor, the Su-57 features stealth capabilities, advanced radar, and the thrust-vectoring nozzles required for supermanueverability.

Spoiler: YF-23 Black Widow II

YF 23 Black Widow II
Cost: 4900 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
HVAA
4AAM
UGB
SAAM
SASM

An experimental stealth aircraft. Built primarily for stealth capabilities, the YF-23 trades off close range capabilities for even better long-range capabilities than the F-22A Raptor.

Spoiler: ADFX-01 Morgan

ADFX-01 MORGAN
Cost: 17000IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
TLS*
MPBM*
ECMP

A prototype fighter. The original superplane, it possesses incredible capabilities in all aerial aspects. Canards and forward swept wings give it nigh-unmatched maneuverability, especially for its size. The one area that it is lacking in is stealth, and in the stealth era that spelled doom for potential mass-manufacture.

Spoiler: F-22 Spiral 7 ALTAIR

F-22 Spiral 7 ALTAIR
Cost: N/A
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
8AAM
QAAM
8AGM
LASM
TLS*
MPSL*
ECMP

A prototype fighter. Only deployed in the Raikalan Election Dispute, it appears to have been a single-production run aircraft. Only superficially similar to the F-22 base, its additional canards and segmented wings give an already tremendously capable dogfighter frankly unbelievable manueverability, along with an avionics systems that far surpasses the Raptor and powerful e-warfare capabilities to add insult to injury. The only two shortcomings of this plane appear to be its increased stealth profile, and the fact that another one was never made after the first was destroyed.

Spoiler: F-4E Phantom

F-4E Phantom
Cost: 600 IC
Carrier capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
UGB
LAGM
SASM
QAAM

A multirole fighter aircraft. It is one of the first carrier-capable aircraft, and although it is aged, it still holds many records and maintains an impressive battle record.

Spoiler: F-4X Phantom

F-4X Super Phantom
Cost: 1000 IC
Carrier capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
XMAA
XLAA

A fighter aircraft. An improvement over the F-4E Phantom, the F-4X Super Phantom has a greatly improved powerplant, enabling the Super Phantom to reach blistering speeds. The airframe has been reinforced as a necessary consequence, but special weapons were a low priority for this plane.

Spoiler: AFTI F-4 Agile Phantom

AFTI F-4 Agile Phantom
Cost: 1600 IC
Carrier Capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
XMAA
QAAM

A fighter aircraft. The AFTI F-4 Agile Phantom boasts segmented maneuverable wings, along with the F-4X's superior engine, to create a highly manueverable fighter aircraft, capable of dogfighting modern planes favorably. However, its avionics remains outdated, limiting its special weapons loadout.

Spoiler: F-104 Starfighter

F-104C Starfighter
Cost: 50 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
SAAM
GRKT
HPAA

A multirole interceptor aircraft. A slim, supersonic interceptor, the C-variant is equipped with ground munitions. Its thrusters and small profile allow it to fly at speeds comparable to modern fighters, but its turning radius is wide, even among interceptors.

Spoiler: Mig 31B Foxhound

Mig 31B Foxhound
Cost: 2000 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
LAAM
SAAM
PLSL*

An interceptor aircraft. Featuring an unmatched top speed, incredibly high performance ceiling, and long range missiles, the Foxhound is a dangerous long-range interceptor, loaded with the latest avionics.

Spoiler: Mirage 2000-5

Mirage 2000-5
Cost: 800 IC
Carrier capable: No
Special Weapons:
GPB
4AAM
LASM
SFFS

A multirole aircraft. Designed as an evolution of the Mirage 2000, the Mirage 2000-5 wields its light weight and delta wings to achieve good balance and maneuverability at high speeds.

Spoiler: MQ-99

MQ-99
Cost: 400 IC
Carrier capable: No, but container-capable
Special Weapons:

A modern drone fighter. Free from the constraints of keeping the pilot alive, the MQ-99 drones are programmed to be able to endure massive g-loads when maneuvering, allowing the aircraft to draw the maximum potential from the airframe.

Spoiler: MQ-101

MQ-101
Cost: 600 IC
Carrier capable: No, Arsenal Bird-capable
Special Weapons:

An unmanned combat aircraft. Featuring a folded wing design for easier compatibility with the Arsenal Birds, these drones boast even greater maneuverability than the MQ-99 drones, and will not hesitate to sacrifice themselves to protect a target, preventing engagement of targets from all but the very shortest of ranges.

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Spoiler: AV-8B Harrier II+

AV-8B Harrier II+
Cost: 900 IC
Carrier capable: Yes
Special Weapons:
4AGM
RKTL
LASM

A VTOL attacker aircraft. Designed to be usable on light aircraft carriers and small airfields.

Spoiler: A-10C Thunderbolt II

A10C Thunderbolt II

Spoiler: Mirage F-1

Mirage F-1

Spoiler: F-117 Nighthawk

F-117 Nighthawk

Spoiler: Su-25 Frogfoot

Su-25 Frogfoot

Spoiler: Su-34 Fullback

Su-34 Fullback

Spoiler: Tornado GR.4

Tornado GR.4

Spoiler: FB-22 Strike Raptor

FB-22 Strike Raptor

Spoiler: EA-68 Prowler

EA-6B Prowler

Spoiler: EA-18G Growler

EA-18G Growler

Spoiler: Tornado ECR

Tornado ECR

Please. Nobody'd be crazy enough to go up against hypermanueverable alien craft in dedicated attackers, right?

*EML, PLSL, TLS, ADMM, and the MPBM are all experimental superlative weapon systems, so it should be noted that sometimes installing these weapon systems will cost more than the plane itself.

Voting is obviously extended for a day, at least.

Long Caster is at 130 Focus.

 

[LucidProp]

New plan! Switching those F-35s up for some Nosferatus, the cheapest Superplane in the Market, for both our Super Aces and then some more mook planes.

If this is to be believed, we should be able to afford it.
Available Industrial Capacity: 39,150 per week

[X] Plan Bridge to Peace
- [X] [HQ] The Lighthouse
- [X] [COM] North Point Chief of Airstaff Stephen Pulford
- [X] Organize XCOM (100 Focus)
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Pilots
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Scientists
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Scientists
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Engineers
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Logisticians
- [X] Delegate Tasks (25 Focus)
-- [X] Avril Mead: Assess and Repair assets
--- [X] Lighthouse
- [X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
-- [X] 2x CFA-44 Nosferatu
-- [X] 3x Su-33 Flanker-D
- [X] Read Briefings (50 Focus)
-- [X] Countries

That leaves 3,150 in Industrial Capacity, a bit of a pity amount, but it's a just in case kind of thing.

 

[Himmelhand]

New plan! Switching those F-35s up for some Nosferatus, the cheapest Superplane in the Market, for both our Super Aces and then some more mook planes.

If this is to be believed, we should be able to afford it.
Available Industrial Capacity: 39,150 per week

[X] Plan Bridge to Peace
- [X] [HQ] The Lighthouse
- [X] [COM] North Point Chief of Airstaff Stephen Pulford
- [X] Organize XCOM (100 Focus)
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Pilots
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Scientists
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Scientists
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Engineers
- [X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
-- [X] Logisticians
- [X] Delegate Tasks (25 Focus)
-- [X] Avril Mead: Assess and Repair assets
--- [X] Lighthouse
- [X] Delegate Tasks (25 Focus)
-- [X] Mobius One: Train his fellow Pilots
- [X] Delegate Tasks (25 Focus)
-- [X] Trigger: Train his fellow Pilots
- [X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
-- [X] 2x CFA-44 Nosferatu
-- [X] 3x Su-33 Flanker-D
- [X] Read Briefings (50 Focus)
-- [X] Countries

That leaves 3,150 in Industrial Capacity, a but of a pity amount, but it's a just in case kind of thing.

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This will put Long Caster at 530 Focus, is there a way to trim 30-50 off the plan to keep it under 500?

 

[kilopi505]

Ok. I made changes in Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative:

[X] Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative!
-[X] [HQ] Fortress Intolerance
-[X] [COM] Long Caster
-[X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
--[X] 2 ADFX-01 Morgan
-[X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
--[X] 10 MQ-99
-[X] Order more planes (variable IC costs, 50 Focus)
--[X] 10 F-104 Starfighter
-[X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
--[X] Sky Eye
-[X] Recruit Staff (25 Focus)
--[X] Mobius Squadron
-[X] Delegate tasks (25 Focus)
--[X] Scrap Queen: Check everyone's fighter planes for damage, fix if possible and condemn to the irreparable ones to the scrapyard for spare parts.
-[X] Delegate tasks (25) Focus
--[X] Mobius 1: Train all the fighter pilots. Give special training to Trigger.
-[X] Read Briefings (50 Focus)
--[X] Countries
--[X] Other XCOM branches
--[X] Grunder Industries
--[X] SSR Tier Aces

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As you can see, I ordered 2 ADFX-01 Morgan for Trigger and Mobius 1's usage, 10 MQ-99 drones for additional numbers and because mobility-wise drones can match UFO's move for move and 10 F-104 Starfighters that are there to provide platforms to control the MQ-99 drones and to boom and zoom the UFOs with the MQ-99 drones being the wingmen and the shields for the Starfighters and because F-104 Starfighters are Scrap Queen's specialty and thus they should have a freaking bonus because Scrap Queen Specialty. All for a total of 38, 500 IC leaving behind 650 IC. Yes, 650 IC. Which will get replenished by another 39,000 + IC in another in-quest week.

I also made the briefings include information about other XCOM branches because most probably there is at least one other XCOM base, somewhere around Anea most likely because that is where Talisman is and he most probably is going to suit up in a Nosferatu. And SSR Tier Aces because hey let's see if Phoenix and Cipher and Pixy and Blaze can still be located and brought back to the fight.

Also note that I have kept the Focus spending to 300 Focus.

@huhYeahGoodPoint, what happened to the UAV-45 drones? I was most counting on that because they are the drones that can move like a UFO the most.

If you want laser spam, if you want UAV spam, if you want to search for Phoenix and Cipher and Pixy and Blaze and have them flying ASAP then vote Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative!

Lasers and UAV's and Player Character Aces are our friends in the war against the Alien. Lasers hit at the speed of light, so no miraculously dodging UFO's once the sights are lined up and the trigger is pulled. UAV's can match UFO's move for uncanny move, can't be mind controlled, and they can kamikaze into UFO's when needed to. And I don't think there's a need to explain why I am looking for Phoenix, Cipher, Blaze and Pixy. So let's vote Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative!

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[LucidProp]

This will put Long Caster at 530 Focus, is there a way to trim 30-50 off the plan to keep it under 500?

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I guess we can always train the pilots later once we get the full briefing. We still do have 2 Super Aces, and Mobius 1 is canonically equal to entire squadron or air force (Been a long time since I last played Operation Katina) on his lonesome, and Trigger should be around that level too so we're not exactly hurting for airpower right now.

 

[Gunman]

*EML, PLSL, TLS, and the MPBM

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What is that? Are all the planes below the line supposed to be super planes? All of these planes are capable of dogfighting the aliens?

 

[kilopi505]

What is that? Are all the planes below the line supposed to be super planes? All of these planes are capable of dogfighting the aliens?

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The ones below the line are the planes that GM declared NOPE, NOPE, NOPE NOT USING FOR ANTI-UFO OPERATIONS.

Vote Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative for Lasers and UAVs and Phoenix and Cipher and Pixy and Blaze and under 300 Focus even!

 

[hYGP]

What is that? Are all the planes below the line supposed to be super planes? All of these planes are capable of dogfighting the aliens?

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EML, TLS, MPBM, and PLSL are weapon systems. Everything beneath the line is a dedicated Attacker craft; in-universe the explanation is that Long Caster decided not to bother, out of universe the real answer is that it was 3 am and I couldn't go any further.

@huhYeahGoodPoint, what happened to the UAV-45 drones? I was most counting on that because they are the drones that can move like a UFO the most.

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UAV-45 drones got succeeded by the MQ-101 line.

 

[kilopi505]

UAV-45 drones got succeeded by the MQ-101 line.

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Wait, what? Really? So the MQ-101 and the MQ-99 drones can do that physics defying stunts that I saw in my playthrough of AC6 by the UAV-45?

Also, if we really do try to order more, how much cheaper are the UAV-45 IC-wise? Because I'm tempted to use them as chape Kamikaze attackers in addition to harrassment attacks.

Wait a minute. Nosferatu planes come WITH the UAV-45. Are you changing that?

Vote Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative for Lasers and UAVs and Phoenix and Cipher and Pixy and Blaze and under 300 Focus even! Lasers, UAVs, Pixy and Cipher and Blaze and Phoenix. Pixy, Cipher, Blaze, Phoenix, Lasers and UAVs. UAVs, Blaze, Pixy, Lasers, Phoenix, Cipher.

 

[hYGP]

Wait, what? Really? So the MQ-101 and the MQ-99 drones can do that physics defying stunts that I saw in my playthrough of AC6 by the UAV-45?

Also, if we really do try to order more, how much cheaper are the UAV-45 IC-wise? Because I'm tempted to use them as chape Kamikaze attackers in addition to harrassment attacks.

Vote Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative for Lasers and UAVs and Phoenix and Cipher and Pixy and Blaze and under 300 Focus even!

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Sort of. Grunder Industries' MQ-101 drones were based upon the independent work of Estovakia's state company Albastru-Electrice in creating the UAV-45, but due to the peace and arms limitation treaty that Estovakia signed at the end of the Emmerian-Estovakian War, the UAV-45 cannot be produced, but the CFA-44 Nosferatu can.

 

[kilopi505]

Sort of. Grunder Industries' MQ-101 drones were based upon the independent work of Estovakia's state company Albastru-Electrice in creating the UAV-45, but due to the peace and arms limitation treaty that Estovakia signed at the end of the Emmerian-Estovakian War, the UAV-45 cannot be produced, but the CFA-44 Nosferatu can.

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...but, War with ET. Its an all hand on deck, give everyone guns and stuff situation. Estovakia not making them and passing them around Anea for free at this point? Because UAV-45s gotta be cheap IC-wise. Cheapest of the drones. AK-47 of Drone World.

Plan Mistaken Identity Narrative for lasers and UAVs and Cipher and Blaze and Phoenix and Pixy!