Abyssal Quest (Kancolle) : No SV, you are the Water Demon
- Thread starter Bki
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Stahor
BookWorm
- Location
- Russia, Moscow
[x] Base expansion:
-[x] AA Demon: Workshop improvement.
-[x] Me: Shipyard Expansion
[x] Construction
-[x] 7xKa-class
--[x] Add them to Task force Alpha
[x] Equipment:
- [x] A5M x14. Put them on CAP around base's airspace, if weather permits.
[x] Operations
-[x] Split your forces in two task groups:
Alpha
Wo : Standard aircraft carrier Wo-class.
1xHe-class light cruiser
2xWa-class transport
2xHa-class destroyers
2xNi-class destroyers
Beta
1xHo-class light cruiser
3xI-class destroyers
3xRo-class destroyers
-[x] Alpha: Combined patrol/scouting of Moluccas Base and nearby areas. Use submarines to gather data on newly available submerged resources around the base.
-[x] Send Beta to scout Barat Daya Isands and Kai Islands. Avoid combat and concentrate on acquiring information or possible resourcing sites.
--[x] If they scout it fast enough, they should process further south.
[x] Other (research)
-[x] AA Demon: Using AA guns that you have to create permanent AA positions for base defence should not be too hard, right?
-[x] Me: If not radar, maybe something simpler, like a long-distance radio?
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- Location
- United States
Our Shipyard is Size 1, all Tenders are at Size 2. That means the Tenders take twice as long, unless I'm missing something.
Aircraft are produced in flights of 3 (weird size) now, and our Runway only has room for a single squadron (not sure if that's nine or twelve).
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Oh, yeah, I remember this one now.
A quick search tell me that a flight can go from three to six planes. Mostly, I decided on three because most air units size seems to be multiples of 3.
Kicker
A perfectionist with an inferiority complex.
- Location
- Malaysia
...what? Nothing?! NOTHING?! HOLY SHIT! THIS CALLS FOR A FUCKING CELEBRATION!!!!!!
Stahor
BookWorm
- Location
- Russia, Moscow
Wiki: [A squadron in air force, army aviation, or naval aviation is mainly a unit comprising a number of military aircraft and their aircrews, usually of the same type, typically with 12 to 24 aircraft, sometimes divided into three or four flights, depending on aircraft type and air force. Land based squadrons equipped with heavier type aircraft such as long-range bombers, or cargo aircraft, or air refueling tankers have around 12 aircraft as a typical authorization, while most fighter equipped units have an authorized number of 18 to 24.]
3x7=21 so we have space (if Bki don't limit squadron size to less that that)
I'm under impression that on first page listed build times with our current capabilities.
@Bki, Submarine tender has build time 2 or 4 days right now?
Well, it's partly is an organisation problem. Several small units will get in the way more than one big unit. It's not a hard cap, though.
I also used squadron for convenience, but it may not have been really accurate. Group instead would probably better (or if we use IJN terminology, Kokutai).
Edit : on the construction time given on first page, they're before modifiers, so 4 days for an AS.
Depend on the type of planes. An IJN fighter kokutai could be around 45 planes + reserves aircraft for reference.
Stahor
BookWorm
- Location
- Russia, Moscow
So, if i'm understanding it right, it's possible to build and host at our current airstrip 42 planes - every day we build two flights?
Yeah, you can put more but operations will be slowed (and if you're bombed there would be more damages). Different groups flying at once won't be as efficient until you get a bigger air base, too.
- Location
- Tulsa Oklahoma
You do realize that is the same thing King George III wrote in his diary on July 4th 1776?
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
*imagines a tiny darkfairy rebellion*
*with tiny tricorn hats*
*building a town thirty meters inland because they want to branch out into things that aren't related to the navy*
*a tiny town*
*them eventually contacting us because they're having a hard time fighting off the wild squirrels*
*we reconcile, because we can't stay mad at their silliness for very long*
*we now have a tiny town whose main export is anime*
Doesn't sound too bad.
- Location
- United States
[X] Base Expansion
-[X][Princess] Shipyard Expansion
-[X] [AA Demon] Workshop Improvement
[X] Construction
-[X] 5 Ka-class Submarines
-[X] 2 Ni-class Destroyers
[X] Workshop
-[X] 5x3 A5M Carrier Fighters
-[X] 2x3 B5N1 Torpedo Bombers
[X] Equipment
-[X] Assign 2 Sonars to CLs.
-[X] Assign Depth Charges to He-Class CL.
-[X] Assign E7K Floatplane Groups to CLs.
[X] Organization
-[X] Assign Wo-class CV, Ho-class CL, Ni and Ha-class DDs, Wa-class TPs to Home Fleet.
-[X] Assign He-class CL, Ro and I-class DDs to Expeditionary Fleet.
-[X] Assign Ka-class SS' to 1st Submersible Flotilla.
[X] Operations
-[X][Home Fleet] Defensive patrols and scouting of Moluccas Base and nearby areas. Home Defense and response force.
-[X][Expeditionary Fleet] Scout east towards Banda Islands and New Guinea. Avoid combat and concentrate on acquiring information or possible resourcing sites.
-[X][1st Submersible Flotilla] Aggressive patrol of Moluccas Base and underwater surveying. Priorities are screening Home Fleet, eliminating scouting parties, and locating submerged resources.
[X] Research
-[X] Develop an aerial surveillance network, or at least the planes for it. Flying Boats with long-range radios may be a good starting place.
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Little variation here. I am also considering scrapping most of the aircraft production to outfit our DDs with sonar and depth charges, and I have a more focused operations plan. I Do Not Like(tm) this hidden movement stuff and I want to get a solid defense for our base established.
After we get radar we ought to try and find a way to speed up our ship production or base expansions. We're never going to get past CLs at this rate.
-[X][Princess] Shipyard Expansion
-[X] [AA Demon] Workshop Improvement
[X] Construction
-[X] 5 Ka-class Submarines
-[X] 2 Ni-class Destroyers
[X] Workshop
-[X] 5x3 A5M Carrier Fighters
-[X] 2x3 B5N1 Torpedo Bombers
[X] Equipment
-[X] Assign 2 Sonars to CLs.
-[X] Assign Depth Charges to He-Class CL.
-[X] Assign E7K Floatplane Groups to CLs.
[X] Organization
-[X] Assign Wo-class CV, Ho-class CL, Ni and Ha-class DDs, Wa-class TPs to Home Fleet.
-[X] Assign He-class CL, Ro and I-class DDs to Expeditionary Fleet.
-[X] Assign Ka-class SS' to 1st Submersible Flotilla.
[X] Operations
-[X][Home Fleet] Defensive patrols and scouting of Moluccas Base and nearby areas. Home Defense and response force.
-[X][Expeditionary Fleet] Scout east towards Banda Islands and New Guinea. Avoid combat and concentrate on acquiring information or possible resourcing sites.
-[X][1st Submersible Flotilla] Aggressive patrol of Moluccas Base and underwater surveying. Priorities are screening Home Fleet, eliminating scouting parties, and locating submerged resources.
[X] Research
-[X] Develop an aerial surveillance network, or at least the planes for it. Flying Boats with long-range radios may be a good starting place.
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Little variation here. I am also considering scrapping most of the aircraft production to outfit our DDs with sonar and depth charges, and I have a more focused operations plan. I Do Not Like(tm) this hidden movement stuff and I want to get a solid defense for our base established.
After we get radar we ought to try and find a way to speed up our ship production or base expansions. We're never going to get past CLs at this rate.
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Stahor
BookWorm
- Location
- Russia, Moscow
Most of islands to east of Moluccas Base is scouted already, however, we did not have complete recon of islands to the south beyond 400 miles, so focus should be at Barat Daya Islands and Kai islands (and further south). There a lot of small islands that good (for us) to scout, while scouting big landmass like New Guinea is just not practical at current state, i think.
Moving to complete paranoia state is bit meta-reasoning, i believe. On the other hand, we had guests from Wo's old base.
Different types of planes reduce effectiveness at current airbase level. If you want attack planes, i propose Dive Bombers - you can scout with them more efficiently than TP.
Edited my vote with some of your ideas.
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- Location
- United States
I'm less concerned about New Guinea and more concerned that it's a large enough landmass to be a decent base area for either Shipgirls or organized Abyssals, it's one of the potentially higher-threat areas and I'd like to get a solid idea of whether or not it will be an issue down the road.
As a nominal human population center as well it may be where our random event is coming from to boot.
Happerry
Bat out of Hell
- Location
- Kanto
[X] Base Expansion
-[X][Princess] Shipyard Expansion
-[X] [AA Demon] Workshop Improvement
[X] Construction
-[X] 5 Ka-class Submarines
-[X] 2 Ni-class Destroyers
[X] Workshop
-[X] 5x3 A5M Carrier Fighters
-[X] 2x3 B5N1 Torpedo Bombers
[X] Equipment
-[X] Assign 2 Sonars to CLs.
-[X] Assign Depth Charges to He-Class CL.
-[X] Assign E7K Floatplane Groups to CLs.
[X] Organization
-[X] Assign Wo-class CV, Ho-class CL, Ni and Ha-class DDs, Wa-class TPs to Home Fleet.
-[X] Assign He-class CL, Ro and I-class DDs to Expeditionary Fleet.
-[X] Assign Ka-class SS' to 1st Submersible Flotilla.
[X] Operations
-[X][Home Fleet] Defensive patrols and scouting of Moluccas Base and nearby areas. Home Defense and response force.
-[X][Expeditionary Fleet] Scout east towards Banda Islands and New Guinea. Avoid combat and concentrate on acquiring information or possible resourcing sites.
-[X][1st Submersible Flotilla] Aggressive patrol of Moluccas Base and underwater surveying. Priorities are screening Home Fleet, eliminating scouting parties, and locating submerged resources.
[X] Research
-[X] Keep trying to put together working shore radar. Get AA Demon to help this time.
-[X][Princess] Shipyard Expansion
-[X] [AA Demon] Workshop Improvement
[X] Construction
-[X] 5 Ka-class Submarines
-[X] 2 Ni-class Destroyers
[X] Workshop
-[X] 5x3 A5M Carrier Fighters
-[X] 2x3 B5N1 Torpedo Bombers
[X] Equipment
-[X] Assign 2 Sonars to CLs.
-[X] Assign Depth Charges to He-Class CL.
-[X] Assign E7K Floatplane Groups to CLs.
[X] Organization
-[X] Assign Wo-class CV, Ho-class CL, Ni and Ha-class DDs, Wa-class TPs to Home Fleet.
-[X] Assign He-class CL, Ro and I-class DDs to Expeditionary Fleet.
-[X] Assign Ka-class SS' to 1st Submersible Flotilla.
[X] Operations
-[X][Home Fleet] Defensive patrols and scouting of Moluccas Base and nearby areas. Home Defense and response force.
-[X][Expeditionary Fleet] Scout east towards Banda Islands and New Guinea. Avoid combat and concentrate on acquiring information or possible resourcing sites.
-[X][1st Submersible Flotilla] Aggressive patrol of Moluccas Base and underwater surveying. Priorities are screening Home Fleet, eliminating scouting parties, and locating submerged resources.
[X] Research
-[X] Keep trying to put together working shore radar. Get AA Demon to help this time.
Stahor
BookWorm
- Location
- Russia, Moscow
We thinking that historically Akizuki were among the first Japanese vessels equipped with radar. Also AA Hime (You wrote her as a Demon) come with Abyssal Surface Radar, and we have blueprints for her body.
Now, if we get successful research to acquire blueprints for shore radar, it may be possible we don't have MEANS to build one. But it gives us direction in witch we need to move.
West (closest to us) part of New Guinea don't have points of interest.
If you want to scout shores of New Guinea, that it east part and Banda Islands are in completely different directions. It's not bad idea, but i think it needs more specific vote like "Go around New Guinea, check if it has human/shipgirl/abyssal military installations, record anything of note, evade combat."
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I'd vote Catalinas. Although apparently they'd be the Japanese version of a long range floatplane but whatever.
