Probably part of the agreement with the merfolk
A Skirt's Not So Bad [Harry Potter]
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ecs05norway
Zenryoku Zenkai!
We don't know they were taken immediately to the lake. For all we know they spent the night safely elsewhere and were just isolated so they couldn't tell anyone what was up.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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While this would make sense for them to do... this is a task designed by witches and wizards.
The animagus forms were interesting. I'm not too sure about what traits are ascribed to a goshawk, but the other two make sense. Otters are one of the smarter animals out there, being tool users, and they're capable in multiple scenarios (land and sea), which is a good match for Hermione. Lions, meanwhile... well, male lions specifically are honestly pretty lazy and tend to leave the important things like hunting to Lionesses (which matches Ron in a caricature sort of way), but if you provoke them or push them into a fight you're in for an entire world of hurt (which just matches Ron's attitude generally).
On to CoMC, I forsee an angry Dumbledore coming G-P's way in the very near future, at which point I suspect she'll be swiftly regretting her words and actions in class. And even if it's kind of a horrible reason for returning- feeling you need to to protect your students from prejudice- it's still good to see Hagrid get back in the saddle so quickly.
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My theory: some sort of time requirement for the potion / spell they're taking.
Maybe they can't take the potion on a full stomach?
Or it lasts for 12 hours before they wake up, so they have to be dosed the night before in order to wake up at the right time.
The spell / potion requires several hours to complete before they can be safely immersed? (especially if they have to brew the potion specifically for the person or if it's a ritual that takes an hour or two to complete)
There's a few possible reasons, it's just we saw the story from Harry's POV, and he never asked.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
It's not the time-to-waking one at least, because they wake when they reach the surface rather than on a timer. Needing to take it on an empty stomach I also doubt, because there's no other potions mentioned with that sort of requirement (not even things like poly juice). It being some sort of time-dependent process rather than a simple spell or potion, on the other hand, seems plausible. If they needed to add their hairs during the brewing stage of a potion, for example, that would explain being taken early and be perfectly in line with what we see of potion-making.
Though honestly, I still prefer my explanation that the people organising the thing just have no common sense. They have hundreds of people out and gathered just to watch the surface of the lake for several hours, after all.
JennyDracos
Eccentric Hugging Lady
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Great, not Greta. Lets, not Let's. Also there's a missing spacer about two paragraphs after this part.
She's way on top of things, isn't she?
I'm with Cedric. She's up to something, and I don't know what. The difference is I can't wait to find out.
Knowing some of your students have been hurt in your absence is a bad thing - but knowing that your students really do need you is a good one. He stopped teaching because he was worried that his presence was only making things worse; now he knows it wasn't.
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Dumbledore taught her sock magic:
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
I suppose we shouldn't be surprised that Dumbledore's an expert at that field, given his (supposed) deepest desire.
Cecylene
Eternal Idea Engine
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- Massachusetts
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My guess is to go over explanations of what's happening, the safety measures involved, and if they would be willing to act as hostage for the task. As Canon showed, Ron was aware of the task upon waking up despite having been at the bottom of the lake since it had started. And should the person decline, it also provides enough time to find an alternate who might agree.
Keeping them overnight is probably just to ensure they don't spill the beans to anyone, as well as potentially to allow observation of them after taking any potions or spells used to ensure their safety while they are at the bottom of the lake.
MaimakteriAnn
(Verified Sleepy)
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Maybe they did. There's no reason the 'tournament business' couldn't just be signing affidavits and agreeing to be awake on time and not tell the Champions.
Alternately, maybe it's a requirement of whatever magic is keeping them safe during the challenge. Maybe a potion needs to be in their system for nine hours before going into the water, so they squirreled the hostages away in private beds in the hospital wing.
Epsilon Rose
The King of Unrest
Pulling the hostages the night before could just be for theatrics or tradition. After all, the champions are supposed to know what's going on and having the hostages disappear sooner creates a sense of mystery and tension. Alternatively, it gives the champions more time to cotton on to what's happened and make last minute adjustments based on what they'll be retrieving.
Overall, grabbing them the night before doesn't really cost much —it's not like they're actually going anywhere— and it has a number of potential benefits, so why not?
Overall, grabbing them the night before doesn't really cost much —it's not like they're actually going anywhere— and it has a number of potential benefits, so why not?
Architect Iront.
Verified Cosplayer, Verified Living Doll
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Though honestly, I still prefer my explanation that the people organising the thing just have no common sense. They have hundreds of people out and gathered just to watch the surface of the lake for several hours, after all.
Speaking of, I have a suggestion for the author here. Instead of copying this part exactly, have four magical tv screens set up in front of the stands, one tracking each champion. The champions won't be able to see them and use them to cheat, and it allows the spectators to view a spectator sport. If this scene is already written you could use them later at the maze after the complaints about the last task being boring rolled in.
Actually that isn't so, male lions hunt all the time. It's just that they do so solo and are stealthy enough about it that it took some fairly high-tech methods to find out what they were doing when they vanished off by themselves. They only sit around doing nothing when you can see them; when they're hunting they're out of sight.
Admittedly, that likely doesn't matter in this context. Ron probably isn't a wizard ninja who is pretending to just be a lazy student but periodically secretly goes off on his own to assassinate Death Eaters or the like, before returning and pretending nothing has happened. Probably.
On the other hand that's just what a wizard ninja would want everyone to think.
Epsilon Rose
The King of Unrest
Now that is an image. Surely there's some crossover with a teen spy/hero show that has Ron doing just that? If not, there needs to be.
ecs05norway
Zenryoku Zenkai!
Isn't there already a spy/hero show with a teen sidekick named Ron?
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Isn't that Ron monkey themed though, not lion?Isn't there already a spy/hero show with a teen sidekick named Ron?
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Hagrid: Waah some people think I'm a weirdo
"your substitute teacher is discriminatory and stuck up"
Hagrid: SAY NO MORE
Glad Holly is getting into this knowing what the stakes ACTUALLY are, but damn how did we end up in a situtation where you have to use mind-reading magic on a member of the government to know whether or not your friend has a substantial risk of dying in a sporing event?
"your substitute teacher is discriminatory and stuck up"
Hagrid: SAY NO MORE
Glad Holly is getting into this knowing what the stakes ACTUALLY are, but damn how did we end up in a situtation where you have to use mind-reading magic on a member of the government to know whether or not your friend has a substantial risk of dying in a sporing event?
Epsilon Rose
The King of Unrest
Kim Possible, yes. However, that Ron isn't particularly competent, most of the time, and he definitely doesn't conceal his identity.Isn't there already a spy/hero show with a teen sidekick named Ron?
Yes. He inherited/acquired Mystical Monkey powers that are connected to a sect of monkey themed ninjas. I also recall him being severely afraid of monkeys for most of the show, but I'm less certain on that.
*Looks at our current government and the preceding one.* Yeah ... That's weird. Who'd ever feel like a shady member of their government would endanger their loved ones for what amounts to entertainment? Ha. Ha. Totally unbelievable. Right?
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I jest, but given the prevalence of mind reading I'm surprised looking through government employees heads isn't a bigger thing. Actually, given how social engineering works in the real world, that raises all sorts of interesting questions about security in HP, both in terms of "normal" security in the wizarding world and also in terms of enterprising muggle-born wizards going back to the mundane world.
Also, on a related note, Holly now knows about Bagman's gambling debts and current bets. I wonder if anything will come of that. (The knowledge, not the debts.)
Since Ludo is sketchy as fuck, and nobody seems to trust him.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
I don't think legilimency is really 'prevalent'- there's what, three confirmed legilimens in the series (Snape, Voldy, Dumbledore)? It seems to be a skill that's largely restricted to magical prodigies or high-end talents, at least, and based on Snape's comments and what we see the information you can get from it is usually pretty limited unless you're being very obvious about it. Though admittedly, considering everything else that exists that can compromise privacy and get you privileged information (love potions, confounding charms, veritaserum, imperio, etc), the comparative rarity/impracticality of legilimency is something of a moot point when you're looking at the impact of mind-based magic on security.
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punster lv1
Killjoy - cheerful shitposter - ignorant pedant
Hagrid
thought I might
gatekeeper
On the one hand, it puts Holly's mind at ease; on the other hand it means she won't get the extra points for rescuing Fleur's sister, and odds are Voldemort/the Scar horcrux are going to leverage the fuck out of any bad habits Holly picks up on the 'easy vs right' front
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you know too much [produces shuriken]
Who wants to wager odds on those goshawk eyes coming in useful during a quidditch game?
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Damn, poor guy seems seriously depressed I dunno of anything can-
Fuuuuuuuck! Like I know in this Continuity Holly already has family in a parental role but damn... Going straight from deep depression over discrimination he's experiencing to immediately deciding to push through it because someone is being shitty and transphobic to Holly??? Damn that is some papa bear energy if I've ever seen it...