Parrying is not all powerful defense. Vanreir`s attack was conceptually unparryable.
We literally killed him with one of the most Dark Souls parries I've ever read about. I could almost hear the parry noise.
Accursed Hax might have been involved, but fortunately we have a avenue of producing effects equivalent to the Accursed's personal magic system by explicitly using the sword.

Given the Praxis' themes a blanket "You can't just invalidate my stuff" is pretty much guaranteed to be in there.
 
Praxis is the ultimate shield and SORD. And we access our SORD Praxis through Forebear's blade, so any upgrade that makes us Better at defending and killing through SORDING will probably work pretty well with Praxis effects we might get in the future or so I hope.
 
I just realize that Avenger maybe work on people that isekai Hunger too.
Already touched in the thread by Rihaku
Mm, Ber's not really an issue for Hunger anymore. And the Hidden Ones are well beyond the point where something like Avenger would be relevant, unfortunately.

We literally killed him with one of the most Dark Souls parries I've ever read about. I could almost hear the parry noise.
It was unmovable object(Hunger`s ring) vs unstoppable force. Accursed was conceptually more powerful so Hunger`s ring won. Don`t expect to do this for a long time though.
 
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The winner was Evangeline Worldkeeper.
How can she be the winner if she's dead?! Anyway, time to do the write thing:

Treachery tactics:

Hunger and Stenallon faced each other, eyes of gold meeting eyes of grey. Liberator and jailor, former heroes both. The marble murals and splendor of the Innermost Temple paled in comparison to the contest ongoing within. Some spare scrap of Hunger's attention found it within himself to sneer at the trappings of a civilization that made torture a sacrament before he marshalled his focus. This foe demanded nothing less than his uttermost.

How best to prevail, to kill an Immortal that lived up to the title? A quote came to mind then, bubbling up from stygian depths that had survived the wracking of his Final Strike. Supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.

On the ground between them, the last vestiges of life slowly drained from Evangeline Worldkeeper. Though the Ring was separated from his body, the echoes of its singular pulse reverberated through Hunger, expropriating the strength she had stolen from its Azure counterpart. But there was another body flung into a far corner, its head pulped by impossible strength. A strategy crystallized, a different way to cut through.

There was no such thing as a good death. Only those few causes good enough that death in their service was preferable to failure. He understood intimately what it was like to see those you loved fall before your eyes. Powerlessness, soul-flaying guilt, remonstrations directed at an uncaring world. The endless refrain of if, relitigating battles as corpses that were once comrades rotted away.

He looked at the Azure Ring imprisoned in the Vise's cruel grip, crackling bolts an inadequate testament to the depth of its agony, and decided not to be merciful.

"What happens," Hunger began, "if you kill me?"

"The ones outside get to keep living their lives," Sten thundered in reply. "I get to rest. And she is avenged." A twitch of his foot carved a divot in the floor, tons of stone propelled toward Hunger. A feint, intended to conceal the Worldkeeper in the projectile's shadow. One swing obliterated the attack. Hunger juked free, staying just out of reach.

"How selfless." He didn't bother hiding his scorn. "But take it won't restore her to life. Time may be your prisoner, but you can't turn it back. However many years you give those faceless millions, you'll never have another day with Evangeline."

Stenallon shouted in fury. The dust of the Innermost Temple's masonry was driven from his form by a storm-wall of raw Presssure and he leapt at Hunger. But his epoch-shattering might struck nothing but air.

"Do not say her name."

Again he attacked and again Hunger dodged, avoiding the enemy's charges by the slimmest of margins. Blade-winds took flight from the Blade's edge like a flock of murderous birds. Sten bulled through them unbowed. Even out of practice and half-mad, he moved to close off lines of retreat.

"You know it's the truth. Just as you know what you're doing is wrong. Yet you refuse to act out of, what? Stubbornness? Simple inertia? Staying the course even as you decay into something unrecognizable? What is the half-life of heroism, anyway?"

Sten howled like a wounded beast. Bodily injuries he bore with ageless stoicism, but where the flesh was strong the spirit was weak.

"I'm the only one left now, thanks to you. The only one who remembers what we fought for. The price paid in blood and time, the monster we opposed. I will not let everything we did be for nothing!"

The ragged remnants of a rainbow mantle were gathering about his hulking form. The others would begin stirring soon. If Hunger had miscalculated...

"I don't know how this began," Hunger replied. "But like all men walking the road to hell, I imagine you took the first steps with the best of intentions. But now you have arrived. Jailor you may be, Stenallon Worldkeeper, but if you prevail here you will remain forever in a prison of your own sins. Utterly alone."

Hunger saw the final guardian break, some glimmer of resolve that had withstood the march of millennia dying in Stenallon's eyes. The unstoppable advance faltered. Gargantuan fists fell limp to his sides.

"I will not lie and say redemption is within your reach. Nothing you do now can pay for the atrocity you've perpetuated. But there is still enough time, to end as you began."

Slowly, like a great and hoary monument toppled at last by the ravages of time, Stenallon turned to the others.

[X] The Ring of Power - Avenger - 7 Arete
[X] Treachery

Power's out, decided not to let that stop me. Behold the Forbidden Art: omake phoneposting. Post, even if it cannot be posted!
 
[X] The Ring of Power - Dominion - 2 Arete
[X] The Ring of Power - Preeminence - 7 Arete
[X] The Ring of Power - Hateful Might
[X]Treachery


Revoting for emphasis.

This build combines long-term power and immediate survivability in the best possible way. No need to worry about redundancy with The King Stands Alone, or having a third Stance when we can only use two at a time, and many other inefficiencies spawned by getting H-DS right now. It gives us the most Rank and decent amounts of power in one go! Hateful Might wrecks Sten should it come to blows and +0.5 Rank and +INT/WIS/CHA/Man/Luck is great for driving him insane. All while saving for Ruling Ring; what's not to like?

Avenger won't work the overwhelming majority of the time anyway so it's much more situational than this; and Headsman gives up our bread-and butter ranged option which is just bad. Preeminence Passion side-steps all these issues by banking itself towards something we are planning to get anyway, instead of something random like Blood Price. Plus, think of how much better at fishing we would be!

Plus, Passion Preeminence is rare too! One less thing to worry about when it comes to the Ruling Ring, and gotten at a pretty opportune time. There will be no better circumstance to pick this in when we are planning to get this anyway; why not now?

Really, if don't want to bothered by all the inefficiencies that buying H-DS would entail right now, just go for this! It's almost like banking the Arete, really.
 
Reaction finished circa A Farewell to Arms. 1252 Words.
Mitigated Apocrypha and hot springs time? Yes this is indeed respite, and a fleeting one. It's going by crazy fast like the flash.

It was a cool, clear, cloudless night, the moon pale and bare like carved crystal, crown-jewel of the skies presiding over the winds and realms beneath.
Lord Hunger certainly has Jewelry and the Azure Ring on his mind right now. Though from a certain point of view, he literally is jewelry.

They crunched through the snow-frosted path to reach the public baths, expansive panels of richly oiled wood towering menacingly to shield the occupants from onlookers.
I wonder how they pulled that off aesthetically speaking? Creative usage of shadows? Are the wooden panels arranged in a way to make the panels resemble the muscular protagonists of various parts of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure? I looked for a comparison of wood finishes on youtube and I'm going to guess they used Linseed oil.

"Let's get a private pool," Gisena said, flipping the jeweled key on her wrist. "There are some reserved for suite holders only!"
Ok, so they've got glowing doorknobs and countertops, jewelry in the keys, is there any way this place could possibly be even more comically opulent? If you needed a picture for conspicuous consumption in the dictionary, this place would be an excellent reference.


"Suddenly shy?" He raised an eyebrow.


"Of course!" Gisena clasped her hands meekly. "I'm just an innocent maiden, after all..."
Gisena? Innocent? Hah! Sherlock Holmes and the Rihakuverse concept of Justice just called, she's guilty of all the things. All of them.

"I'd like a private pool," Letrizia said, eyes darting to and fro. "You never know when there might be perverts lurking about."
Well I suppose somebody has to be genre savvy/an anime stereotype. The thing is though, how many Hot Springs incidents have weird but sensible explanations? I haven't run the numbers but if she's being genre savvy enough to know about the cliche she could at least be genre savvy enough to know about people unlucky enough to fall in through the roof while trying to do something else or something like that.

"Fine, lead the way."


They entered a smaller pool inset to the side. Though thick wooden panels obstructed horizontal vision, the panels facing outwards could be lowered, allowing bathers to take in the view. Below them was the serene darkness of the mountain outside giving way slowly to the jewel-fire glow of the city beneath. It was a breathtaking vista, and Hunger spent a moment simply absorbing the sight before leaning the Forebear's Blade against a wall, then entering the bath.
Yeah for all the vacation time Lord Hunger's having, he's definitely got his mind stuck on the tortured jewel back in the temple. On another note, taking your sword to the bath with you is an entirely reasonable thing to do for one subject to the Apocryphal curse.

Gisena pushed Letrizia in, then daintily slid in herself, carefully gathering her hair to twist into a water-resistant bun. Letrizia surfaced angrily, sputtering, and lashed out with a wave of water and Pressure that Gisena effortlessly dodged. Pouting, Letrizia sank beneath the surface, blowing bubbles at the two of them.
I guess the pressure was meant to ensure Gisena got hit by the water? I'm not sure how this fits into the sharpbright thematics.


"Stupid nullification aura, let my Pressure through..."


Gisena turned to him. "What do you think of our swimsuits, hun? Rather fetching, if I do say so myself!" Hers was a two-piece bikini of pale violet, with lace-like patterns adorning the sides.
I suppose this is for fanservicey fanart?

He grunted. "Is all your clothing the same color as your hair?"


"Pretty much!" She splashed over to him, leaning onto the stones beside the pond. Looked out at the city, a slight smile graced her features. "It's hard to find shades that go well with purple. You're welcome to expand my wardrobe if you'd like..."
Evening Gown lost and we don't have a crafting magic system, so odds are you'll have to find your own sources until we get another conjunctional pick.

"Maybe after you pay off your debt," he remarked, slumping forward and briefly closing his eye. The waters held a steady, intense heat that felt almost as if they were massaging his muscles, gentle warmth that pervaded through to bone and marrow.
That in joke I lost track of a long time ago again. Presumably it's just meaningless banter at this point. Still, at least we lost some conditions from the pervasive warmth of the water here or whenver precisely we lost them.

"Aw," Gisena brushed playfully against him, hauntingly beautiful in the moonlight. "Sure I can't take out another line of credit?"
More flirting? Ok then. *keeps building up for possible setup to give the ring to Gisena for contests of primacy to make this banter actually interesting*


"It would be inadvisable. Debt can crush even a genius."


"But money is just a social construct!"
What is the world without social constructs though? Would society even be possible without them? That speech death gives about atoms of justice in Hogfather seems relevant here.


Letrizia swam over, nose upturned haughtily. "Miss Gisena, I still haven't forgiven you! Lord Hunger, do you want to review sparring partners for tomorrow?"
Business Letrezia time. The business of training because training with Hunger always has to be serious business with stakes.

"Oh my, the wrath of a duchess!" Gisena winked at him. "Her fury knows no bounds! I'd best retreat before she turns truly serious."
You could always stop procrastinating on your mediatations and ascend to High Sorceressness, even though we didn't bother spending the arete to make you Maiden tier, finally ascending could only help you. She can't get past your nullification yet after all.

So saying, she dove and emerged on the opposite side of the pool, sighing contentedly as she lounged against the stones.
Draw me like one of your James Bond girls?


"Only if you don't call me a lord. Now, sparring partners. Is your notebook waterproof?"
Yadda yadda I fought Tyrants and Lords for years and don't want to have to be called one until I absolutely have to.


"I don't need it!" Letrizia said cheerfully. "Now with my Element enhancing my Rank, the information I need comes easily to mind with just a quick review."
She deserves Philosopher's Wreath. The collective intelligence of this party will go way up when it happens.

"I'm proud of you."


She preened. "Well, i-it's not that big a deal. T-this is just kids' stuff compared to what I'll ultimately be able to achieve."
Considering the example she has in Lord Hunger, she's right. It's just a question of getting her a panopoly as I keep saying.

They discussed tactics and likely opponents both for the spars themselves and the potential recruitment to follow. Hunger was uncertain if their party wanted another member to look after, especially one that would need to be protected as nearly all Elementalists did, but couldn't avoid the fact that the Elements she described had undeniable utility in breaching the Temple.
In the end we managed to pick somebody without much moral ambiguity to bringing them along thankfully. In the end though she proved incidental to breaching the temple and became just another combatant though.


"So, tell me about your own Element, Hunger! You said it helped you beat the Rotspawn today, but what does it actually do?"
It redeems, it tunes, it makes you better, it plays you like a violin or a goddamn fiddle maybe if you aren't careful with your buffs? I'm craving an Edeldross/Forbear's Blade conjunctional advancement right now.

"It's a force of indiscriminate enhancement that applies to anyone immersed within. As far as I can tell, it works on all faculties of body and mind, on foe as well as friend."


"Interesting!" Gisena appeared next to Letrizia, who startled as if jolted. "Fire a bolt? I'd like to take a look."
How much water did Gisena disturb to get there that fast? This is another case of Gisena's speed being fast enough to merit a Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff tier god damn. In Fending Off her walking speed was literally enough to keep up with Lord Hunger going at a fierce pace. im telling you.... speed like that is UNREAL, it doens't even HAPPEN.
most of the time.
The Pooooooool is on FIRE.


"I can't really fire bolts..." Hunger said. "The smallest blast is still the size of a car."


"Cars are fascinating!" Gisena replied easily. "It's translucent force, right? No one will notice!"
Yeah. It's interesting the kind of things people come up with to get places quickly when you don't have levels of speed exceeding most superheroes or teleportation.

He loosed a blast at them. Letrizia cowered slightly before she exclaimed in awe, looking at her palms as if they held the secrets of the universe. Gisena adopted a contemplative expression before smiling smugly.
I wonder what kind of epiphany was going through Letrezia's head just then?

"This almost feels like findross!" She said. "Incredible, I think this is a precursor substance to actual findross itself. Blast us again, I want to test a theory..."
The time to founding Aperture Science keeps getting smaller. Seriously. We've probably reached an asymptote or a limit though until we get out of the Voyaging Realm.

Shrugging, he did so. In response she raised a palm, intercepting his blast with her own Nullity.
Like Darth Vader deflecting a blaster bolt with his hand.

"As I thought. The energy isn't being nullified - that is to say, the power of Nullity isn't rendering this Element mundane. Instead, they're actually cancelling each other out! I think this contains the parts of findross that uplift and restore, elevating the mundane to the supernal. In a sense, it can be considered the opposite of my own power!"
So Findross has properties that diminish people, or some kind of inert neutral component Gisena has?

She scooted happily over to him. "It's just as I said earlier. We're a perfect pair!"
Perfect cancellation? Doesn't that mean if you put the two of you together neither of you exist like matter and antimatter? That seems more like a rebuttal of you two in a relationship.

"Hm..." Letrizia thoughtfully tapped the side of the pool. "Your Element's pretty cool, Lord Hunger, even if it's not as good as my Sharpbright. If it really is related to findross as Miss Gisena says, maybe we can call it edeldross? The prefix 'edel-' refers to ennobling or improvement, especially in the context of something traditionally bad becoming good. Don't you think it suits you?"
How many edgelords are genuinely evil beings in need of redemption?

"A fine name, but do I come off as evil?" All of his current panoply had been Abducted from one villain or another. The Forebear's Blade, the Ring from the Tyrant; even the Evening Sky had belonged to that pirate captain, though in a diminished form.
I still think that whether or not that guy is a pirate captain is a debatable subject.

"Yep," Letrizia said obliviously, "but don't worry, it's kinda cool! And I'm sure no one would mistake your intentions once they see your work!"
And now we've got Vigor incarnate. Good god. Letrezia is going to be even worse with us when we see here again if she finds edgelords cool. Larissa already fell for us because of our brooding bad boy image.

"I don't know," Gisena said. "I've seen plenty of Paladins and Knight-Captains with that color scheme, or at least similar ones! I'm sure people would mistake you as a hero if you smiled more."
See what I mean? There's lots of edgelords that are perfectly decent people.


"That part of my life is finished. I'm done with taking on requests for strangers with no expectation of reward."
Then it is a very good thing you never took Brand of the Champion. Or does getting the thing you wanted from them count as the reward meaning you should have taken Brand of the Champion? I'm not sure. *Thonk emote*

Tangentially, Gisena's world apparently had a lot of edgelords, especially given how we could have taken edgelordy powers for us to get Brand of the Wretched mitigation out of it in the original A Simple Transaction.

Letrizia looked slightly disappointed. "But isn't that the best part of heroing?"
I guess that depends on your precise goal.


They discussed his choice of wardrobe for several minutes more, to his moderate dismay. Tired out from overusing her Element, Letrizia eventually trailed off, mumbling to herself as she slowly fell asleep.


"I'll carry her back," Hunger volunteered, but Gisena laid a soft hand against his arm, eyes gentle and green.


"Let her rest here for a bit. The waters may help with her Elemental exhaustion."
If they catalyze reactions with the relevant properties in peoples blood I suppose that's reasonable enough.


"..."


"What?" She swirled around to face him directly, crossing arms beneath her cleavage. "You don't believe me?"


"...Are you trying to make her pruney again?"
I would think so.

Gisena giggled. "Maybe I want you to carry me instead! You have two arms, so there's no excuse to skimp out on a full princess carry."


"Hmph. I do owe you one for the Magus fight. Here to our room is a pretty short stretch. You okay with that?"
Looks like that debt is repaid I guess. So much shiptease.


"Good point!"


She leaned back, raising one pale, slender foot out of the water. "Perhaps you can give me a massage instead?"


"You slacked off the whole day, why do you need a massage?"


She gently kicked water at him, which the Evening Sky obligingly deflected. "Why not? It's a continuance of my relaxation!"


"Fine. Come here."
*Sighs in exasperation*


The next day they set out bright and early, though the hotel staff did their best to have them stay, even offering free nights if he would but fight the Rotspawn again. Despite the tremendous economic value of their proposal, Hunger had to deny them, though he didn't rule out attacking the Rotbeast if they happened to pass through this region again. Their vacation was drawing to a close - one last bit of training against Letrizia's classmates, and he would make for the Temple again.
I feel sorry for them but Edeldross was still totally worth it.

They'd gained much from this trip; in many senses it had been more productive than attacking the Temple directly. But every day delayed was unnecessary suffering heaped upon the Imprisoned Ring. Hunger would see to its rescue as soon as possible; other paths were unacceptable to him.
We got like, multiple 25 point purchases. Fark yeah it was.

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[X] Infiltration with [X] Shadowcord has won. Gisena's Relationship EFB will be revealed later!
Like an apple of discord it will come, sowing chaos without measure.


Choose a bonus:


[ ] +1 pick below

[ ] +1 re-roll during Infiltration

[ ] +.75 Arete
I wonder if the reroll would have been enough to make up for our brain damage against Avecarn? Oh well, Edeldross Adept was worth it too.


From sparring with the (temporary) (false) classmates of Letrizia, Hunger receives 1 pick, or 2 if the appropriate bonus was chosen above. Choose wisely, this may or may not be your last chance before infiltration attempts begin!


[ ] Forebear's Blade - Echo of the Forebear - Cloud-shadow of the Forebear's might.

Legendary strength and speed, and the resilience to exert them. Can be taken multiple times. [+Might, +Agility]
Irrelevant Coca Cola unless we need more Power of Ruin for something, given we have Zweihander making it scale off strength.


[ ] The Ring of Power - Dominion - 2 Arete

A ring of power does not exert influence casually. It has its own will, its own preferences, and if that will should be inseparable from its owner's, its sway thereby shall be greater for it.


The available domains for Hunger are: War
It could have been more helpful then some of the stuff we've chosen in build or plot but we don't have it yet.

[ ] Fierce Quickening - The absurd violence of Blood unleashed. Let all that falls within its dominion be spilled, if it be in service to the Ringbearer. Adds [++Agility, +Wits] to the bonuses from Quickening, subject to the usual conditions. Can be taken up to 3 times.
Wondering what 2 pick advancement getting 3 of these unlocks?

[ ] Augment Dominion: Blood - The world-wielding will of the Ring.

Treat the wielder's Rank as if it were (.5 Low/.25 Medium/.1 High) higher for purposes of the [Ring of Power] effect applied to the Blood domain, increasing its potency and versatility. Repeatable, but costs 1 more pick each time.
This got made obsolete by Crimson Flare


[ ] Exalted Spirit - 2 Arete. Conjunctional [Hunger, Evening Sky]. Mind made vigorous as the body. Gain +Int, +Wits, +Wis, +Cha, -Heartlessness, while in a form with physical blood. Allies under blood enhancement gain +Int, +Cha. Blood enhancement requires physical blood.
Maybe this could have been useful in other circumstances. At least now we've got a protection boost out of it to combine with the synergy with Philosopher's Wreath and Edeldross for Singularity purposes, maybe we'll get this after the temple?



[ ] Sublime Transfusion - 2 Arete. The restorative vigor of blood willingly given. The wielder may donate his blood to another in order to heal them. This applies regeneration at a rate triple the wielder's own, and this healing effect is treated as if possessing conceptual potency a full Rank higher than the wielder's baseline, minimum 7. Even organisms of different species can be revitalized through such means.
Crimson Flare makes this obsolete.


[ ] Vigor Incarnate - 2 picks, 2 Arete. The glory of Blood triumphant. Let those who would stand against him cower, or be undone. A simple but exceptionally powerful option.


Adds [+++Might, ++Charisma] to the bonuses from Quickening, subject to the usual conditions.

Add your Charisma to your Protection.
This made us fabulous enough to attract Larissa's attention/become a cognitohazard at 80 percent of our social power when we got it.

[ ] Edeldross Adept - 2 picks, 2 Arete. Conjunctional [Ring of Power, Evening Sky] Through a surge of genius, Hunger vastly accelerates the growth of his proficiency with Edeldross.


*Substantially improves the effects of Hunger's Edeldross training session, increasing Magnitude to +30% and imparting significant bonuses to control. He can now consistently form barriers, blasts, and basic shapes (spear, sword, boxing glove) from Edeldross.

*Hunger can now maintain close to 100% uptime on basic self Edeldross enhancement.

*Unlocks advanced Edeldross enhancement, a time-limited technique that increases his effective Magnitude by half again.

*Doubles the rate of pseudo-Grace creation in the future. This benefit is unique to the Advancement.
This was still a good pick for the uttermost mitigation.


[ ] Evening Sky: Shadowlord - 2 picks, 7 Arete. It's rare that such conjunctions occur, but the cloak of Evening has unusual affinity for the Elements of shadow. By absorbing the power of an Element willingly offered, some of its attributes may be infused into the wearer.


*+30% AGI, +30% Manipulation

*Gain +++++++Stealth, ++++Theft

*Weave of Silence: Immune to sound- and music-based attacks.

*Attention-Deflecting Shroud: +Protection from the Evening Sky now adds to Stealth.

*Assassin's Grace: 100% Critical Strike chance when performed from ambush.


*In exchange for paying Shadowcord a kingly sum of money, she will agree to let Hunger absorb her Element. This is not a permanent reduction; her ability to summon it will return slowly over the course of two years.

*Needless to say it's far more effective to have such capabilities present in Hunger himself than to rely on relatively-weak external sources

*Consumes one additional day as you farm the money needed.

In hindsight this route would probably have been better given our brain damage.
 
We will get +0.9 Rank special feat for 3 picks due to this impossible achievement(Storming the Temple of the False Moon). Of course people will use the 3 picks to get FQ + Honing.

You know it is true.
Current plan is to go for hybrid stats/Rank build, making use of fact that Crimson Flare translates Rank into stats. So we'd go Silver(AGI buff/+1 Def Rank), Trinity, SJUC(Rank, AGI and CHA most likely), OfA and ADS. This would get us Forebear's Blade Special Advancement and lots of stats/Rank and powerful Rank scaling.

SJUC would increase our Rank by 15%; assuming that we are at Rank 6 at that point, which we should be if we take that build, it would launch us to 6.9. So general Rank 7, Defensive Rank 8 and Blood Casting Rank 9. Then you get OaF and you are relevant on Armament scale. Get ADS as needed for safety purposes.
 
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[X] Hero-Defeating Stance
[] Forebear's Blade - Echo of the Forebear
[X] Evening Sky - Opalescence
[X] Fierce Quickening
[X] Feat - Knife-2 Arete
[X] Age


I wouldn't mind picking Opalescence over Echo to amplify those Protection bonus from Charisma, but that might split the vote.

Edit: Fuck it, synergy fortune favors the bold!
 
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[ ] The Ring of Power - Avenger - 7 Arete
Damn good when it applies. No Rank.

[ ] Forebear's Blade - Headsman - 7 Arete
Strength not Might so no improvement to Ruin. AGI boost doesn't apply to dodging, closing or hitting. Basically called Headsman because it relies on enemies being tied up on a block.

[x] Hero-Defeating Stance
[x] Forebear's Blade - Echo of the Forebear
[x] Fierce Quickening

[x] Feat - Knife
[x] Age
With the Agility advantage from this build we can set up and execute multiple Cut Throughs in a fraction of a second. And then get the Ring back (and our arm).
 
[X] Hero-Defeating Stance
[X] Forebear's Blade - Echo of the Forebear
[X] Fierce Quickening
[X] Feat - Knife-2 Arete
[X] Age


I wouldn't mind picking Opalescence over Echo to amplify those Protection bonus from Charisma, but that might split the vote.
Yeah, I was thinking about Opalescence too - this is somewhat low intensity vote pick-vise, so it would be a good opportunity to start working towards Pearlesence.
 
[X] Evening Sky - Opalescence
[X] Evening Sky - Iridescence
[X] Evening Sky - Pearlescence
[X] Treachery
 
It was unmovable object(Hunger`s ring) vs unstoppable force. Accursed was conceptually more powerful so Hunger`s ring won. Don`t expect to do this for a long time though.
Don't expect to fight Vanreir Mk 2 in the next fifteen minutes either.

Ultimately it's not really worth considering how we'd do against people who massively outscale us, but against those within striking range it seems rather unlikely that they have access to "You can't parry me" effects more potent than the "Nuh-Uh, I should be allowed to sword this" effects our Sword Praxis can give us access to.
Invalidating "unfair" avenues of attack and outright noping seems to be massively in theme and you'llfind it hard to find conceptually more powerful effects without going far outside our weightclass.
 
So, Preeminence Passion, lets do this.

Much has been said about healing Hunger, it has been used as justification for taking picks, rejecting picks, rage quits, and so on, but the wounds that hurt Hunger the most aren't to anything as transient as flesh and blood, but to his Mind, and Heart.

Hunger burnt out parts of his soul, his mind, his very sense of self, healing that is going to be the work of a lifetime, luckily we have endless multitudes of them to work with, and this is the first step.

Passion has been stated to be a rare pick multiple times, why? Why does Hunger struggle to feel passion, there have been numinous passionate moments so far in this quest, yet Hunger has felt little.

He still seems to feel anger, he can desire Vengeance, he can rouse himself to outrage at the suffering of the Ring, but when offered the chance to save his wife, his child, he's numb, in the face of Gisena's superlative self, numb, hot springs, vacations, comforts of all sorts, the potential suffering of millions, mostly he seems numb.

Disinterested, depressed, empty. These are words I would use to describe Hunger.

We have been told that the Ring is one way to heal him, but it was not the rings power over life that was the rare pick, but it's power over passion.

Hunger's need to save the ring is the most passionate he's been the entire quest, many voters have torn their hair out over his unwillingness to leave it behind for safer pastures, but I say use this moment, this opportunity, it may be the greatest reward offered from the trial we have just faced, for who knows when it will come again?
 
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[ ] The Ring of Power - Avenger - 7 Arete
Damn good when it applies. No Rank.

[ ] Forebear's Blade - Headsman - 7 Arete
Strength not Might so no improvement to Ruin. AGI boost doesn't apply to dodging, closing or hitting. Basically called Headsman because it relies on enemies being tied up on a block.

[x] Hero-Defeating Stance
[x] Forebear's Blade - Echo of the Forebear
[x] Fierce Quickening
[x] Feat - Knife

[x] Age
With the Agility advantage from this build we can set up and execute multiple Cut Throughs in a fraction of a second. And then get the Ring back (and our arm).
What? Pretty sure power of ruin scales with Strenght. That means an absolutely massive increase in our SORDing capability. The option is also about optimizing for close combat, which most fights end up us.
 
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You know, it would be good to get Passion in a context we can actually use it, yeah? If you want to save Arete this is actually the vote for you since it converts itself to Ruling Ring integrally, a linchpin of our long-term planning in this quest. We can solve this situation by getting something we wanted anyway; what a steal!

Who wants to spend 7 Arete on something that's just going to sit there unused. Don't you all remember Form of Rage and the subsequent regret? Over something similarly thought to have broader use than it really did. Let us learn from our mistakes, and avoid Avenger. Build towards the future while not neglecting our present, a good motto to have!
 
Who wants to spend 7 Arete on something that's just going to sit there unused. Don't you all remember Form of Rage and the subsequent regret? Over something similarly thought to have broader use than it really did. Let us learn from our mistakes, and avoid Avenger. Build towards the future while not neglecting our present, a good motto to have!
Long term planning, avoiding past mistakes, synergy? Sir, I have to ask you to leave. The people in this establishment prefer not to be exposed to such vulgar ideas.
 
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Reaction finished Circa the Ultimate Price. 1452 Words.
Interlude: The Star-Forge
The Star Forge from Knights of the Old Republic was a major dark side artifact. Considering the Star Forges here run on torturing a ring, they are also dark side artifacts. Now I'm trying to think of a setting where star forges wouldn't be artifacts of evil and pain.

The Encampment of the False Moon. A riotous whirl of sandstone facings and colored tends
"Tends"? I think that's a spelling error and it was supposed to say "Tents".

, teeming with moon-mad adventurers whose desperation and fearsome need for distraction have birthed one of the foulest dens of sin and iniquity to mar the Voyaging Realm.
Given how skeevy the merchant people we met are, I suppose it's a valid question how much of this is propaganda. Is this meant to be written in character from an Inner Ring resident's perspective?

Among the vaudeville festivities and direst-hour purveyors of food and lodging lie those few mighty peddlers whose business is neither fare nor fortune but power itself.
I wonder how much we missed out on by never visiting the place? Not much?

Sigil and secret, objects of power or sentimental value to the Residents Within - these are their stock in trade, among them a cache of papers distributed by the Ministry of Information For the Inner Ring. Secured by supernatural locks and surrounded by guardian spirits,
Guardian Spirits? I wonder what kind of Soul Evocation you need to pull that off?

the contents of these bloodstained pages are known to few within the Encampment itself. Do the peddlers fear the loss of their prey, should the true sophistication of Inner Temple society be made known to them? Or are they merely content to hoard and bask in their hidden knowledge, lording it over the ignorant?
They could also be catspaws of inner ring residents to keep track of encampment residents.

But the party was ignorant no more, for Aeira was able to secure these on a brief excursion to the Encampment.
She's like if Abridged Alucard was Sam Fisher and still liked to go on enthusiastic walks. She's just casually able to filch things like that from people.

She made no attempts on the greater, more heavily guarded treasures within, noting that Lord Hunger seemed content with the current state of his panoply, and having no wish to call down mightier contingencies than she'd already provoked.
I guess Letrezia's explained the concept of Accretion and how Panopolies work to Aeira then. We probably didn't need any of that swag anyways. We have enough trouble spreading out our picks across our panopoly as it is.

Still, the lithe assassin made little secret of her satisfaction at having given her pursuers the slip, though she was shocked to find Hunger dissatisfied at the lack of enemies to subdue.
I guess Aeira's learning about the lunacy of traveling with the Ring of Blood that is also a person. She wasn't there to see Hunger encouraging people to try and do unpleasant things to him because he learns best under pressure for the sparring after all. Thinking you succeeded the mission, only to find your boss irritated that you didn't bring people to fight must have left her flabbergasted about his priorities. Let's hope we don't do something stupid like overexert ourselves fishing now that she's here.

The information within is neither complete nor entirely decipherable, but its contents are illuminating nonetheless, especially should Hunger wish to infiltrate the Temple in person.
We tried that but failed because of our social debuffs.

Though he will never be bound to obey their customs, still it is better to be aware of them, so that evasion is possible.
In the end we never had to worry about any of this.


- The Star-Forges of Plerion -


CONFIDENTIAL - GRADE O-5 AND ABOVE ONLY

FOR DISSEMINATION TO OUTRIDERS PROMOTED TO MARSHALL-CLASS AND ABOVE
So for middle temple residents who got into the inner ring. Also, the classification system is basically out of the SCP foundation. Also, Aeira filched this content from the vaults of patreon to bestow it on the F2P users symbolically. I wonder if there would have been another way this stuff got released if we had somebody besides Aeira?


From the Sayings of Plerion:

Ignorance is no excuse for disobedience; nor liberty, for disorder.
The first half of that can be considered applicable towards basic legal systems as we know them. The second part though, especially with the way the first is phrased, makes Plerion sound like a real authoritarian fucktard. I can see why Sten and the others betrayed him. I wouldn't have been surprised if Plerion was still alive though. Also for whatever reason I'm drawing connections between the immortal council and the unsent from Final Fantasy X. We're sending some of them now at least with our sword. It'd be kind of hilarious if Hunger sent them via a dance battle though.


Named for their long-deceased inventor, the Star Forges are crucial to the stability and prosperity of our regimented Inner Ring. The dome of blue that surrounds the Ring appears impenetrable to outsiders
It's not impenetrable, especially if you've got a Sword that's a step along on the infinite singularity husk. Just cut it open like a balloon and hear all the air escape. Let's just hope we didn't actually cut the ring.


, but within you shall find it is near-wholly transparent, reflecting both daytime and evening sky in mirrored harmony, with night on the outside become day within.
I wonder if there's anything special up with that?


You have likely long wondered at the purpose of the Star Forges whose auditory emissions are deflected into the Middle Ring. Crystallized possibility can be extracted from the stars of the False Heavens, tearing them from the nighttime sky to forge into numinous energy, which can then be repurposed for any number of applications. Empirical observation has long confirmed that extraction via star-forge is the most efficient and least unpleasant means of exploiting the priceless Treasure at the Heart of the Temple, though many have raised the obvious question: what happens when the stars run out?
What are the more unpleasant means of exploiting the ring then. Seriously. The ring is being tortured as it is and they could have been doing worse things to it? What the fark?


To which the Council notes that the number of stars in the night sky is very nearly innumerable, and the current rate of extraction will see our civilization through for many millennia to follow, far beyond the circumscribed lifetime of any Inner Resident save the Immortals themselves.
Even if all the lights in the sky are our enemies, that simply means we must strike them all down? It's going to a long, slow, unpleasant road for them then. Good thing we were around to interrupt them, we might actually have a chance of doing that within a meaningful time frame.


While the visible eye may not be able to perceive every star, our mighty astronomical arrays have indeed confirmed that the blanket of seeming darkness above is home to countless stars below the range of human perception.
I wonder what's up with those stars?

Fewer, more heretical minds have proposed a different question - what if the Forges were turned to the harvest of the moon itself? The Council, as befits its dignity, has not seen fit to answer so ludicrous a query. Star-stuff suffices to power all but the most esoteric applications of Inner Ring society, from power and lighting to the time-twisting Calendar Engine and even the carefully regimented Dimensional Vortex upon which the Inner Ring sits.
The inner ring is literally inside the ring due to dimensional shenanigans supposedly. Also, I still wouldn't have minded the World-Defeating Stance/Calendar engine route for the evacuation with Aristesia. I wonder what precisely the moon represents in the ring though. The main jewel?


Marshall, imbibe dutifully the information contained above, and take heed as to the tenor of questions that the Council will and will not countenance. Such is crucial to your harmonious existence within our Inner Ring.

Wow, that is seriously authoritarian. Good thing we were around to fark their shit up.

- At Temple's Heart -


CONFIDENTIAL - GRADE O-7 AND ABOVE ONLY

FOR DISSEMINATION TO NATIVE-BORN RESIDENTS WITH AWAKENED SOUL EVOCATIONS OF MILITARY GRADE
So basically, magic and Soul Evocations are ubiquitous enough for it to be basically My Hero Academia, all the people with combat viable quirks sign up for hero schools like UA or join the inner ring's army.

From the Sayings of Plerion:

No False Moon is this, but the anchor of the world itself! Come now into mine grasp, that my descedents may flourish evermore.
How was it the anchor before it was unlucky enough to find its way into Plerion's vise though?

It is well known that the Treasure at Temple's Heart is the source and guiding light of all magics practiced by its attendant civilization. As the vast majority of practitioners are Soul Evokers, an understandable confusion arises: will the Light of one's Soul itself be extinguished should the Treasure ever be depleted?
Is the light of the soul an individual's life our just their soul evocation I'm getting kind of confused at this point.

The answer is more complicated than a simple affirmation or negation would reveal. Rather, without the Treasure's empowering light, most Soul Evokers would be incapable of directly manifesting their own Light in so concrete a manner as they do nowadays, with all but the mightiest relegated to effective mundanity.
You must be this metaphysically swole to use your Soul Evocation without a ring helping you. We're like that. Unfortunately the ring residents aren't. Still, imagine if we came here with our Soul Evocation awake. Our imprisoner powers would be super farking ludicrous. Mage Lord would have been unfathomably viable in the inner ring. Seriously. What the fark.

This would be only one of the many catastrophic consequences to follow if the Treasure were ever to depart its hallowed perch, but rest assured that its longevity as a power source is effectively infinite!
There's a bit of a weird gap there between what they're saying to the Marshalls and what they're saying to native residents in terms of the long term viability of the ring. Maybe I'm just tired while I'm writing this but I'm wondering what's up there.

That is why the treasure must be impenetrably defended, not only by the citizenry of the Temple, but by the Immortals of the Council themselves, whose imperishable might is the sole and necessary justification for their continuance beyond the prescribed lifespan of one thousand years.
We have seen the immortals at this point. For better or worse, they are not exactly valiant defenders of their civilization these days, especially when somebody in their own weight class shows up knocking at their door. If they were like this now, how the fark did they stop Aristesia?


Do not envy them their eternal vigilance, and mourn not your finite hours, for it is by their tireless regard that the Treasure which shelters us all is kept secure for the generations to come. Theirs is not a privilege but a duty, no reward but an onerous and ceaseless burden, which is why any Councilor elevated to the Rank of Immortal is stripped of all commissions and departmental roles, and their voting power further cut by half.
That's the most shameless bit of propaganda I've ever seen for this Logan's run esque sci-fi utopia/dystopia whatever the fark this place is. Sten is probably the only one who actually genuinely fits the propaganda in any conceivable way, everyone else is just corrupt cowards.

While Inner Ring residents benefit from regular exposure to the Treasure's directly refracted glow, Middle Temple outriders must make do with the second-hand light that emerges from their Sigils. The worthy are elevated to join us, but do not concern yourself with pity for the other residents of the Middle Temple. Existence itself is a boon to them who live beyond the prescribed ten million.
Semi-understandable given the nature of their society but still more Logan's Run esque bullshit.

They are defended in large part by our largesse, with a not-insignificant fraction of our star-stuff re-directed to power the Ritual Grounds.
The Ritual Grounds also power the vices containment system. It's not much largesse on your part you propagandizing fucktards considering how much you get out of it.

- Ritual Grounds: Maintenance Report e79#CXXXXVI -


CONFIDENTIAL - GRADE C-3 AND ABOVE

FOR YOUR EYES ONLY, HONORED COUNCILOR

MEMETIC CENSORSING ACTIVE (The third line is burned off and barely readable, replaced by a series of runes which glow like dull embers)
What kind of Soul Evocation do you need to imbue documents with memetic hazard properties? Also, "CENSORSING" is a typo and the runes make me suspect the now deceased amiable brutes are the ones who liberated this document. Maybe it got leaked to the encampment because council politics as people speculated?


Groundskeeper Prelairn is missing in action, assumed slain at the nexus of a high-valence anomaly in Sector X. Forensics indicate magic-negating power of up to Class S was deployed at the epicenter, roughly five meters from the last recorded transmission of his Sigil.
So the sigils are surveillance equipment for outsiders. Could these people be any more authoritarian? Then again, are we any better considering how some smartphone apps harvest our data?


Tiller Wurm activity is substantially reduced in his absence; the Wurms are agitated for lack of their 'father.'
I still wouldn't have minded figuring out what Prelairn's backstory was by getting him with Inheritor. How did he get sent out in the middle of timbuktu? Did he lose a political fight?


Knight formations have been disrupted in Sector X, presumably by the same Incursion which slew Prelairn. Preliminary divinations reveal cognitohazard status - Marshalls Farseer and Oracle were burned out, and Marshall Vicissitude slain, by the (assumed) entity's ontological perimeter.
The Accursed doesn't like people divining on his Cursebearers. Also, Vicissitude is incredibly metal, especially if that particular diviner got biomantic powers to go with their divination like the Vampire the Masquerade discipline for Clan Tzimisce vampires.


Further divinations are not recommended at this time. Speculated typing: S-type 35%, O-type 41%, X-type 11% (!), R-type 14%.
I'm too tired right now to have any speculations on what the types mean.


NOTE: The irony that Sector X should produce the first potential X-type is not lost upon us.
At least they're willing to lampshade stuff in their internal documentation. The light of fun hasn't completely faded from all of their eyes.


Given the defenses in place we can only speculate as to the apparent coincidental nature of this Incursion, but more deliberate machinations cannot be ruled out.
Duh. It's the ring calling people. It's that simple unless I'm missing something. Maybe the Apocryphal curse factored into this somehow?


Caution is recommended until further information becomes available.


UPDATE: Patrol activity in Sector X-M has revealed four Incursions of notable strength in this period, including two R-types and Fairbright. We now believe the chance of X-type incursion to be <.1%. For details, please reference patrol log c43#MMXI. Further information is beyond the scope of this report.


Given these and many lesser disruptions in Ritual activity, containment efficacy has fallen calamitously, down 8% in the last 72 hours. Recommend re-commissioning of Star Forge #27 to begin extraction of sub-quadrant F5 to compensate. We have informed the Chief Coordinator that incursion activity may spike as uncontained Power is released into the greater Outside. In light of this limited containment breach, termination or subversion of all major Incursions is the utmost priority. Recommend that High Marshalls Administrator, Capacitor and Wyvernford be elevated to Alert status. We again petition the Council to review the Immortal Deployment Act.
We killed one and subverted the other high marshall to our side by seducing his boss. Capacitor turned out to be completely irrelevant. The Immortal Deployment act probably failed because they had enough connections to lean on people to stop it from happening even with their reduced direct influence because they're too busy guarding their lives jealously and failing to live up to their propaganda.

As always, time burns.


Your faithful servant,


Crowelenarch
Crowlenarch, diagram lich or no, turned out to be completely and utterly irrelevant in the end. Oh well. Decent enough red herring.



The winner was [X] Crimson Flare by a hair. This was a hotly contested vote and could easily have gone to any of the three options given the early turnout and high quantity of arguments made.


What was the focus of Aeira's training?


[ ] Stealth - The classic. The power to go undetected opens up enormous avenues of possibility for the enterprising operative. Improves survival rate during reconaissance, extraction, combat and many other missions. Improves the effectiveness of Vershlengorge's stealth cloak, and that of stealth cloaks given by Aeira to others. Does not substantially improve the resistance of Stealth cloaks to high-density blasts of Nullity. Grants +++Element Magnitude, ++Element Control, +++Agility, ++Wits.


Bonus: None. Stealth is the default arrangement for Aeira.
This is the route where we get what we came for, which would have come in handy if we had the stats to successfully infiltrate the ring. Given our debuffs though, we were not able to make that happen so in hindsight taking combat was foresighted.


[ ] Combat - The assassin. This involves not only direct martial expertise but all aspects of the killing arts, including a poisoner's expertise and the logistical peculiarities of infiltration and murder. With this specialty, her control over the raw physical component of her Element improves to the point where it's safe and relevant for her to contribute in combat as an ambush / buffing asset. Also improves her rate of growth overall, making it feasible for Aeira to keep up with Hunger if properly supported and invested in. Grants effective +Progression (Combat), +++Element Control, +++Agility, ++Might.


Bonus: Antitoxin - Aeira's comprehensive understanding of Voyaging Realm-native plant life allows her to produce the cure to Hunger's damaged liver. Healing is slow, but even a first-stage treatment reduces all penalities (and amplified damage) by half.
In hindsight this was a great decision. It'll be even greater when/if we can get Philosopher's Wreath on her. I wonder when the stage 1 liver cure will kick in though, its beens several updates and the penalties haven't been halved yet if I recall correctly.

[ ] Business - The support. Instead of focusing solely on her skills as a mercenary alone, Aeira studied the dismal science in an attempt to better understand and possibly extricate her family from its dismal situation. While this isn't immediately relevant, it would substantially improve her value to Letrizia as a magus-advisor in the Human Sphere, providing a form of long term income that isn't as vulnerable to abrupt termination as her current line of work. Grants +++Wisdom, ++Intelligence, ++Charisma.


Bonus: Apocalypse Later - Vastly reduces the risks of taking Aeira out of the Voyaging Realm. Without this, complications will almost certainly ensue.
We are probably going to be panicing our asses off about this in a week or two.

You guys are at 7.4 Arete! Would you like to buy a Stance? Your chances against Avecarn are quite good without one, but not guaranteed.


[ ] No - S A V E.


[ ] Hero-Defeating Stance - Does not build towards All-Defeating Stance, but the best for your current situations. Improves both diplomatic and combat outcomes, all but guarantees survival in combat. Improves Rank, physical stats, effective Defensive Rank and odds against multiple opponents, all great qualities to look for in an Advancement!


[ ] Magic-Defeating Stance - Somewhat improves combat outcomes in most scenarios. Lowers Apocryphal risk in the long run. Grants superior defense against most esoteric attacks, useful in potential future engagements, and improves synergy with Gisena in battle.


[ ] Guile-Defeating Stance - Strongly improves odds of diplomatic victory. Somewhat relevant in combat against intelligent opponents.

Guile-Defeating stance turned out to be helpful to stop Avecarn from tricking us even though we were too debuffed to be able to convince him we wanted to defect. We, for better or worse, still haven't gotten hero defeating stance, though we may get it to fight Sten since it's in contention this vote.
 
Hunger's current situation is one where he is on the offensive. He often goes on the offensive for compelling reasons, but those reasons very frequently would not proc Avenger. For example, Huntress' Moon targets.
Quite true. On the other hand, situations where you're on the offensive, even for a good reason, are usually (but not always) situations where you can always in principle step back, re-evaluate the situation, and decide to take a different approach or find a power-up before coming back.

Not always, but often.

There remains something to be said for an ability that procs when the enemy comes to you. Those are the times when you don't even have a pretense of being able to decide whether or not to fight the battle. And yes, even then Avenger won't proc all the time- but the way I see it, the fights it doesn't proc for are, on average, going to be the fights we had the best chance to either avoid or work around.

So having it as a hole card, especially because enemies who have seen us in action but (as per Accursed interference) cannot just scry our entire life story won't know it's there.

Mm, Ber's not really an issue for Hunger anymore.
Oh? Good of you to say so; I think a lot of us were still taking him seriously as a threat.

And the Hidden Ones are well beyond the point where something like Avenger would be relevant, unfortunately.
No beating them with S T A T S, I take it? Darn.
 
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