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Actually wouldn't be a stretch to pull the Darrys and Harrenhal into the Crownlands.

Edit: These are the maps I use for houses when I can find them btw.
 
Skrevski said:


Actually wouldn't be a stretch to pull the Darrys and Harrenhal into the Crownlands.

Edit: These are the maps I use for houses when I can find them btw.
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In fact Mooton might as well join in as well so we get functional looking borders. Gets me another port as well and the Mootons were loyalists as well too boot.

Neatly doubles the Crownlands, gives me a firm collection of loyal lords and stops a Riverlander army just sweeping in like...err everyone did three times. The Crownlands needs some strategic depth.
 
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Mortis Nuntius said:
In fact Mooton might as well join in as well so we get functional looking borders. Gets me another port as well and the Mootons were loyalists as well too boot.

Neatly doubles the Crownlands, gives me a firm collection of loyal lords and stops a Riverlander army just sweeping in like...err everyone did three times. The Crownlands needs some strategic depth.
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Yeah, that's definitely too much.
 
ByzantineCaesar said:
Yeah, that's definitely too much.
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Well it neatly serves Rhaegar's purposes and there is nothing to stop him, even the lords in question were all solidly in his camp and probably all hate the Tullys given their various actions. Particularly the Whents and Mootons and the Darrys wanted to outright replace the Tullys so there is that.
 
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Mortis Nuntius said:
Well it neatly serves Rhaegar's purposes and there is nothing to stop him, even the lords in question were all solidly in his camp and probably all hate the Tullys given their various actions. Particularly the Whents and Mootons and the Darrys wanted to outright replace the Tullys so there is that.
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If you want a total victory you will have to earn it in the field. I don't see where the mistaken belief that Rhaegar has military hegemony is coming from. The Riverlands are barely bloodied, and the Vale as well, and Rickard has 30k angry Northerners sitting at Moat Cailin ready to march south. Rhaegar has the tattered remains of his army, Robert, who would never march against STAB, the Martells who are a non-factor and the lords of the Reach who hate him and want to go home to kill fanatics. The end of this war was extremely rushed, but that doesn't mean anything.
 
Then instead of rage quitting the players should have made something out of it. Its not my problem you guys fucked up at every opportunity.

ByzantineCaesar said:
If you want a total victory you will have to earn it in the field. I don't see where the mistaken belief that Rhaegar has military hegemony is coming from. The Riverlands are barely bloodied, and the Vale as well, and Rickard has 30k angry Northerners sitting at Moat Cailin ready to march south. Rhaegar has the tattered remains of his army, Robert, who would never march against STAB, the Martells who are a non-factor and the lords of the Reach who hate him and want to go home to kill fanatics. The end of this war was extremely rushed, but that doesn't mean anything.
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I said more than once we needed one more turn to iron this shit out. Steamrolling a peace out of exhaustion and dumbass ragequits does not make for a sound foundation for the next stage.
 
Velasco said:
I said more than once we needed one more turn to iron this shit out. Steamrolling a peace out of exhaustion and dumbass ragequits does not make for a sound foundation for the next stage.
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And I say no. I'm totally happy to just keep fighting until everyone is dead but Robert's defection, the support of the Lords of the realm multiple Kingdoms declaring for Rhaegar and the total illegitimacy and incompetence of the regents mean that I'm treating this as if I won because I can easily see the regents getting murdered by their own armies if they try and keep fighting after losing yet again on their own terms.
 
ByzantineCaesar said:
Which was because of rushing a peace due to OOC pressure - I mean, wut?
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Robert wasn't rushed. He agreed to a duel or a great council, the duel got called off and then I offered it again and he accepted and I won and he pledged to support me at the great council. The only serious remaining claimant to the throne other than Rhaegar was now telling everyone Rhaegar is King. There wasn't even anyone else to vote for.
 
Mortis Nuntius said:
And I say no. I'm totally happy to just keep fighting until everyone is dead but Robert's defection, the support of the Lords of the realm multiple Kingdoms declaring for Rhaegar and the total illegitimacy and incompetence of the regents mean that I'm treating this as if I won because I can easily see the regents getting murdered by their own armies if they try and keep fighting after losing yet again on their own terms.
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Then you don't want a peace I guess. What was the point of us rushing through everything to allow you to sit the Iron Throne? If there's going to be war regardless, let's retcon all this BS, strip the Lannisters from Zealous and continue the game in its own pace.
 
Mortis Nuntius said:
Robert wasn't rushed. He agreed to a duel or a great council, the duel got called off and then I offered it again and he accepted and I won and he pledged to support me at the great council. The only serious remaining claimant to the throne other than Rhaegar was now telling everyone Rhaegar is King. There wasn't even anyone else to vote for.
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The GC was a result of the rush and you said it yourself that the Rhaegar-Robert was the rushing of the GC. It's a double rush. And as I said, even if Robert supports you at the GC, it doesn't mean he's going to march against STAB. So either get a peace that is a consensus or let's continue.
 
Who actually wants to undo all the discussions that went into a conductive new game and instead fight a goddamned war because Rhaegar did something again?

Because I sure as hell do not want to.
 
CommandoHowizter said:
Who actually wants to undo all the discussions that went into a conductive new game and instead fight a goddamned war because Rhaegar did something again?

Because I sure as hell do not want to.
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Asking STAB to self-suicide is the same as kizil demanding Rhaegar to stand down voluntarily to pave the way for Aegon and peace. Can't you see the problem?

Mortis Nuntius said:
I'm totally fine with continuing as I've said. @Skrevski
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The point of the GC was to rush a peace which was completely OOC. If the outcome of the rushed GC isn't peace, but more war, then I'm obviously requesting a retcon.
 
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