Still, this is a mechanic to prevent turtling, so taking some risk is still a good idea, can't progress without it, not in the city.
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Still, this is a mechanic to prevent turtling, so taking some risk is still a good idea, can't progress without it, not in the city.
kaillll
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We can take some risk, but I prefer not dying 10+ times a mission, so if you really want to go for it, play it smart, please.
If I have to repeatly read though the same sequence up to nine times, Im going to shoot myself.
I would insert a complete replay of the endless eight from *The melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya*, but even I am not that cruel.
Also, I'm sure Naron would stop us before it reached that point, if only to not be the one writing the same sequence nine times with minor variations.
Still, taking a job where we risks death but isn't way over our head is viable, as is trying a stupid but potentially very rewarding if it works strategy once to see what it gives us, I think, after Ciel learns about the respawn (or however else it works) mechanics for the stupid idea, of course.
questioningmeme
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Thats why you should be vague in the descriptions.
Going in details complicate things.
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Nope. I am perfectly capable of copy-pasting 95% of a chapter as often as I must. If anything, I would thank you for lightening my workload for a few weeks
Mind, I doubt this will happen unless people do a a number of stupid things in succession
Gun and Powder
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We can get used to the sudden speed boost, we're Grade 9, unless we're looking for trouble we should have enough time to get used to it. Though I much rather get something that improve our stamina instead if we're talking about speed. Long distant runner rather then short, if you feel me. Along with that, we can build with it, since I assume aug that strengthen the body/increase it density would require more stamina to... prop itself up?
My child self watching the melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya and wondering why I'm watching the same episode 2 morbillion time.Nope. I am perfectly capable of copy-pasting 95% of a chapter as often as I must. If anything, I would thank you for lightening my workload for a few weeks
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Huh, apparently the tattoos used to be a singularity. Would explain why it acts like magic.
That said, the only ones you can actually see using tattoos in LoR are the Stray Dogs and the Kurokumo clan, and the latter doesn't even talk about it. But it seems to be a common and fairly effective augmentation. Just not sure how it would compare to machinery parts.
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That said, the only ones you can actually see using tattoos in LoR are the Stray Dogs and the Kurokumo clan, and the latter doesn't even talk about it. But it seems to be a common and fairly effective augmentation. Just not sure how it would compare to machinery parts.
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questioningmeme
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Machinery parts are limiting. We will have to remove old ones with better ones if we want to switch.
With tattoos, the removal process is likely much easier.
With tattoos, the removal process is likely much easier.
Gun and Powder
Tax Evader the Arknight Operator
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Depends on how Naron handle tattoos, since in most LoR they usually go bone deeps. So it probably cost more to remove it if it go beyond the skin.
kaillll
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I think there's a reason that People higher on the ladder doesn't use them.
Maybe because it complicates insurance because You have to repeat the process to get a new set of tattoos, Or you only have that much skin on you.
or... They are really not that good and it's only beneficial at lower grades, Like the best ink is really not that good compared to the best augmentation/Cybernetic parts you can get.
eh, I will go with power legs, open up relationship and future partnership with augmentation workshops.
Maybe because it complicates insurance because You have to repeat the process to get a new set of tattoos, Or you only have that much skin on you.
or... They are really not that good and it's only beneficial at lower grades, Like the best ink is really not that good compared to the best augmentation/Cybernetic parts you can get.
eh, I will go with power legs, open up relationship and future partnership with augmentation workshops.
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Legs will always be used in fighting though? Footwork and manuveurability will always be important, even if you don't actually attack with them.
Though, speed tattoos kinda do the same thing, so I guess I'm fine with going that route as well.
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questioningmeme
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They also don't mention augmentations on the higher ladder.
We never did see underneath Xiao's clothing, Lowell's, Roland's, Iori's, etc.
What type of augmentations you use doesn't matter in the higher ladders, because unless it's E.G.Os or something really special like singularities, you are expected to know your augmentations at higher levels, no need to bring them up as a topic of conversation.
Anyhow, what I want to ask @Naron more is this.
What is the kind of quality that we should expect from Ciel's investment? Because the speed augmentation of grade 9 is very much inferior to that of the speed augmentation of grade 8. And even then, Ciel likely doesn't have the dosh to put in as much investment as a normal grade 9 would either.
Should we expect to get Eri's level of strength (wielding a chainsword the same size as her and many times heavier than her with one hand) if we pursue a strength augmentation? Or should we expect a lower level of being able to punch really well?
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Gun and Powder
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Mmmm, you're saying we should undress Roland :thinkingemoji: Though Roland don't have any on his thigh if the proto-design for his King of Greed phase is anything to go by.
Also toss this in since I thought they were nice.
Also powerful legs can be used to get away depending on how strong they are, if we're having difficulty with like other grade 9 but we have powerful legs to like jump to a place they can't reach we can get away.
We do actually have at least one example of it though. Baba from the Cane Office had his augmented heart ripped out of him, and this isn't something you can tell from looking at him on the surface. Neemo from the same office clearly had his head replaced too. And they are pretty much the leaders of the W Corp. So I think it's safe to say that people on the higher ladder do put in money to augment themselves.
questioningmeme
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We aren't like other grade 9s.
We are poorer and weaker than even grade 9s.
This is literally our one saving grace we are committing everything we have on. We need an augmentation that is more generalist than just our legs.
The legs have a lot of value sure, but the arms are strong too. Knuckles are extremely cheap weapons that can be utilized if we went full arm strength increase for example.
What did you think I meant?
I am talking about the fact that Augmentations aren't a conversation of topic on the high end of the ladder. Because we are expected to already know the ones suited to us the most. Who cares what augs you have at the high end? Can you do your job right is what everyone cares about.
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kaillll
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eggghhh.....
I just hate tattoos.
No offense, but I don't like them.
I will stick to my power legs and you will stick to your tattoos and you can't change my mind about how much I don't like them.
I go with my option and you go with yours and lets don't bother each other Deal?
I just hate tattoos.
No offense, but I don't like them.
I will stick to my power legs and you will stick to your tattoos and you can't change my mind about how much I don't like them.
I go with my option and you go with yours and lets don't bother each other Deal?
Gun and Powder
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Actually what are the option as of now?
questioningmeme
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No. I don't care about whether you like tattoos or if you are allergic and will die in their mere presence. So no need to bring it up since I'm no longer even trying to buy you over to it.
I am wondering about what kind of augmentations we should go for.
Increase Leg power has good potential right now, and seems to be our best bet.
Actually, since Naron answered me, I think it's pretty clear.
[] Follow Giano's advice and get an augment
-[] Mobility augmentation.
-[] Buy a useable spear.
Speed + Spear means that we will be a massive pain in the ass to deal with.
Or fancy weapon write-in what type, a particular Workshop, and/or what else it can do (be as precise or vague as you want) Ex: A concealable weapon, something that can change size, a Stigma Workshop burning axe [A size changing weapon is interesting to pursue too, but something too gimmicky for a Rat starting out as a Fixer] no augments.
Edit: I just realized you are asking for voting options. My bad.
Well, there are still only 2...technically. 1 Mobility vote (divided between me and a couple of others regarding how thick our thighs we want to be), 1 is optical vote, Kaillll was the one who suggested that, another is a stamina vote by...someone I forgot the name of...
But thats generally it.
I am wondering about what kind of augmentations we should go for.
Increase Leg power has good potential right now, and seems to be our best bet.
Actually, since Naron answered me, I think it's pretty clear.
[] Follow Giano's advice and get an augment
-[] Mobility augmentation.
-[] Buy a useable spear.
Speed + Spear means that we will be a massive pain in the ass to deal with.
Augmentation of a single write-in what type, what organ, or what effect (be as precise or vague as you want) Ex: Strength augment, enhanced eyeballs for toggled low light vision [Recommendation: be as vague as possible, we won't need to deal with blind sided downsides because of precise voting] Alongside possible cheap weapon.
Or fancy weapon write-in what type, a particular Workshop, and/or what else it can do (be as precise or vague as you want) Ex: A concealable weapon, something that can change size, a Stigma Workshop burning axe [A size changing weapon is interesting to pursue too, but something too gimmicky for a Rat starting out as a Fixer] no augments.
Edit: I just realized you are asking for voting options. My bad.
Well, there are still only 2...technically. 1 Mobility vote (divided between me and a couple of others regarding how thick our thighs we want to be), 1 is optical vote, Kaillll was the one who suggested that, another is a stamina vote by...someone I forgot the name of...
But thats generally it.
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kaillll
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Augmentation that boost our senses...
Eyes, ears, nose, or some weird shit...
Augmentation that directly boost our combat ability.
Strength boost, Speed boost, Artificial muscle, Combat focus cybernetic parts, or some kind of debuffing shit...like stun or something is fun, I wonder can we get our hands on smoke or not
For better endurance
iron skin tattoos, better skeleton, Machine base augmentation/Cybernetic, Better lungs...
I personally will go for mechanical things, If nothing just to open a line of contact with a cybernetic/machine augmentation workshop because I feel that would be useful, not like we need to go full in.
Who knows, maybe we can meet cane office before they are popular or something If we go to the same workshop as them.
And I have already Buckled under pressure for getting combat Augmentation, I'm not going to vote for something I don't like or buckle under another one's opinion again, I'm going to vote for something I personally want, In other words, Im going to vote for my own enjoyment. Thank you very much For your suggestions, I don't like them.
See you lots after nine hours.
Good night.
Eyes, ears, nose, or some weird shit...
Augmentation that directly boost our combat ability.
Strength boost, Speed boost, Artificial muscle, Combat focus cybernetic parts, or some kind of debuffing shit...like stun or something is fun, I wonder can we get our hands on smoke or not
For better endurance
iron skin tattoos, better skeleton, Machine base augmentation/Cybernetic, Better lungs...
I personally will go for mechanical things, If nothing just to open a line of contact with a cybernetic/machine augmentation workshop because I feel that would be useful, not like we need to go full in.
Who knows, maybe we can meet cane office before they are popular or something If we go to the same workshop as them.
And I have already Buckled under pressure for getting combat Augmentation, I'm not going to vote for something I don't like or buckle under another one's opinion again, I'm going to vote for something I personally want, In other words, Im going to vote for my own enjoyment. Thank you very much For your suggestions, I don't like them.
See you lots after nine hours.
Good night.
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questioningmeme
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Anyhow, as I said. We don't have the cash for your "Ultimate Lifeform" dreams.
Not now. And likely not for some time.
Which is why we should go relatively simple and make it vague. We are literally starting out our Fixer journey. We aren't even sure whether there will be any Fixer offices that will take us in yet.
Fancy dreams of turning yourself into Nemo 2.0 is cool and all, but I'm more interested in making sure we can handle our first combat encounter without immediately learning how the "Return by Death" mechanic work.
Not now. And likely not for some time.
Which is why we should go relatively simple and make it vague. We are literally starting out our Fixer journey. We aren't even sure whether there will be any Fixer offices that will take us in yet.
Fancy dreams of turning yourself into Nemo 2.0 is cool and all, but I'm more interested in making sure we can handle our first combat encounter without immediately learning how the "Return by Death" mechanic work.
Opps, misread, thought you were saying that people on the high end don't talk about or use Augmentations at all.
Anyway, a combat augmentation and a simple weapon would work for me. So like what questioningmeme suggests
[] Follow Giano's advice and get an augment
-[] Mobility augmentation.
-[] Buy a useable spear.
I wonder if it would be better for Ciel to use something he is more likely to be used to though, like a pipe or something
No, the fact that we don't have money means that it's better to go for just our legs rather than our entire body, trying to go for too many part augmented is the same as going for several bad parts, it leads to a lesser increase of performance overall, we were told by someone who knows her things to not go for several cheap increases.
And legs are a very strong part of the body if you learn to use them correctly, kicks are always stronger than punching, it's just that you have to be careful about balance, actually, we could very well go for a kicking style, maybe additional legs to help with the inherent problems of removing half your support on the ground, hmm….
Now I want a drider body with swords for legs, the ability to make wires and all around vision. Unfortunately, I don't think the voters'll go for it.
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Not on this vote, of course, that one's definitely not possible right now, I meant as our final state.
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