A Practical Guide to a Cushy Retirement ( Youjo Senki/APGTE )

"It's because I'm too Callowan for you now, isn't it?"
I'm legitimately confused by this. As far as Cat knows Tanya is also Callowan through and through so why does she think this is the case?

Also, can't wait for her to meet Apprentice and get him while the others look at them like "oh no there's two of them".
 
I'm legitimately confused by this. As far as Cat knows Tanya is also Callowan through and through so why does she think this is the case?

Also, can't wait for her to meet Apprentice and get him while the others look at them like "oh no there's two of them".
Soldiers gossip and Hakram is the worst offender. There might be a rumor about Tanya's encounter with Heiress at the tavern even if she wasn't recognized, so Catherine might be joking about Tanya visiting Soninke whores.

Or it could just be because they are in Praes and Cat was making a joke about Callow being backwater or about how Tanya adapted well enough to the legion to command a tenth, so she went native.
 
Okay, we can do serious, too.

Canonically, Catherine doesn't consider herself conventionally attractive, so she didn't take Tanya's reasons for "Let's stay friends for now, okay?" completely at face value ( like Tanya believes ) and thinks that it's in large part about her not being nice-looking enough for Tanya to date.

Tanya always demonstrated "pro-Imperial" attitudes matched in orphanage only by Catherine herself, so it's not like it'd be weird for her to find a Praesi girl and start dating her as soon as she arrived to Ater, in her opinion.

Soninke specifically, because Catherine herself consistently found Soninke girls very attractive, from Aisha ( who spends most of the time offscreen shyly holding hands with Juniper and planning military campaigns together with her ) to Her Jerkiness Akua Sahelian.

Edit: I didn't want to explain all this, because well, teenage insecurity isn't really fun to write about. More like really fucking depressing, since I still remember my own teenagerhood all too well.
 
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Hey again, it's time for another of my commentary posts! Come, gather around and watch me misunderstand everything that's going on!

Here's my read-through of Chapter Three:

"This... entire... stupid... system!" I growled in frustration, punctuating my point with my fist hitting the wall. "How does any of this make sense?!"

Trismegistus had been schizophrenic, that was the only explanation.
According to real-life quacks occultists, Hermes Trismegistus was the founder of a philosophical system based around alchemy, astrology, and the study of ancient writings. Hermetists claimed that they had developed a special technique for rising, step by step, from the earthly plane to the highest spheres of the mind and spirit.

So, the question I want to ask those of you who are more familiar with A Practical Guide to Evil is this: does the Trismegistus of the story have anything to do with Hermetic philosophy, or did the author just like the name? I'm curious.

I was thankful my self-taught Old Miezan had been a wise investment of my time, even if our teacher said that my accent was atrocious. Nobody spoke Old Miezan anyway, and my written form was adequate.
If nobody speaks Old Miezan, how does her teacher know that her accent is atrocious?

Out of the remaining three, Kharsum was, excuse my Francois, a bitch to learn. I wasn't the only one, thankfully. The scholarly orc with several ugly scars covering his whole face who was teaching the subject told us that we had particular trouble with several vowels due to our "high-pitched, girly voices" and, on a more practical note, a lack of fangs to hiss the consonants through. He said that it could be remedied with a correctly broken nose or by squeezing your throat until you learned how to growl and wheeze in a particular voice range, but I was sure he was joking. Almost sure. The language itself was surprisingly poetic, almost musical in composition, though the subject of the few poems he read to us was quite depressing, or bloodthirsty, or both.
Ah, yes. It sounds very much like my experience of learning Welsh. (I still can't speak Welsh, sadly.)

After he was discharged from the infirmary, he again demonstrated the astonishing lack of intellect and made a case to file a formal accusation of assault to the Legate presiding over the College. In turn, I explained my side of the situation in full. Turned out, I wasn't the only object of his tender affections, though it never quite escalated that far before. I was given a formal reprimand for assaulting a superior officer without filling a form explaining my actions since he was a sergeant ( there was a form for that, it turned out ), and he was dismissed from the Legions and incarcerated.
Wow, Tanya may have accidentally stumbled into the perfect career. This army seems ideally suited for her: they even have forms to fill in for 'assaulting a superior officer.' That sounds like exactly the sort of thing she would have come up with herself!

Anyway, it was a useful experience that went a long way towards informing my approach of maintaining the facade of an eager warmongering patriot. There were some general rules to the deception that I'd managed to glean: you shouldn't be too flamboyant, for example. Natural exuberance was quite distinct from unnatural, and people unconsciously picked up the clues to tell one from another the entire time you are having a conversation with them. The trick was to convince the conscious part of the observer of your honestly so thoroughly they would disregard the unconscious input as faulty or irrelevant. The second part of the trick was, of course, not to give the unconscious too many clues to pick up on in the first place.

Unfortunately, I had more trouble picking up those clues than an average person would.
I didn't expect Tanya to be this self-aware, to be honest. I may have read too many other fanfics in which she was convinced that she was the best at social interaction.

"Nothing like that," she assured me. "I prefer brunettes, anyway, and I definitely won't want to sleep with anyone just because they owe me. I have self-esteem too, you know?" Implying that Talib didn't have any, a nice wordplay.

"Chris has black hair," I pointed out.
I've reread this section several times and I'm struggling to make sense of it. How does the fact that Chris has black hair have anything to do with what the Lieutenant said before that? It just seems like a weird non-sequitur to me.

It would probably be something opportunistic and at least party illegal, but I was willing to pay the price for the potential advantages it'd bring me, though I wasn't quite sure my countrymen would feel the same way.
"party illegal", huh? So... like a rave in the middle of a pandemic? Or do you mean "partly illegal"?

"It's a deal," I smiled easily, clasping her hand. She drew back slightly, probably surprised I agreed so quickly, before smiling back and shaking my hand with hers. "We'll see you tomorrow, Lieutenant Killian."

"See you tomorrow, Cadet Degurechaff," she said and echoed her previous sentiment. "Just don't expect any miracles."
Well, Lieutenant Killian seems nice. Or, at least, not a complete asshole. :rolleyes:
 
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Hey again, it's time for another of my commentary posts! Come, gather around and watch me misunderstand everything that's going on!

Here's my read-through of Chapter Three:


According to real-life quacks occultists, Hermes Trismegistus was the founder of a philosophical system based around alchemy, astrology, and the study of ancient writings. Hermetists claimed that they had developed a special technique for rising, step by step, from the earthly plane to the highest spheres of the mind and spirit.

So, the question I want to ask those of you who are more familiar with A Practical Guide to Evil is this: does the Trismegistus of the story have anything to do with Hermetic philosophy, or did the author just like the name? I'm curious.

As a long time reader of the PGE, the author tends to put those sort of references, but in this case Trismegistus is the name the Empire gave to the foremost practitioner and inventor of this style of magic. It reflects him somewhat, but its more indicative of the Empire's view of him.

As its a minor spoiler, but it gives some context,
The Dead King, the greatest necromancer in history and that guy who invaded a hell and won.
 
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The Dead King really put a lot of thought into Apothesis, to the point that he rather blatantly uses her regicide attempt to train Catherine for later when their immortality makes them the only people who can understand each other. And when you think about it what is Apothesis but "a special technique for rising from the earthly plane to the highest spheres of the mind and spirit."
 
According to real-life quacks occultists, Hermes Trismegistus was the founder of a philosophical system based around alchemy, astrology, and the study of ancient writings. Hermetists claimed that they had developed a special technique for rising, step by step, from the earthly plane to the highest spheres of the mind and spirit.

So, the question I want to ask those of you who are more familiar with A Practical Guide to Evil is this: does the Trismegistus of the story have anything to do with Hermetic philosophy, or did the author just like the name? I'm curious.

A legendary Mage-King from the earliest of recorded history, widely known as the one who developed the magic system used by Praes, generally considered the most advanced magic system for humans (other races have superior magic systems). He is also (though not well known for this) the mage who sacrificed his entire people (ala Full Metal Alchemist) to fuel his transformation into the Immortal Lich known as the Dead King, as well as turning his previous country into a land of the dead wasteland. From which he then opened a portal to one to the Hells, invaded, conquered it, and now resides in as his capital. Generally serves as the Biggest Big Bad of the whole continent, only he's semi-Sealed Evil in a Can since he only rarely comes out of the Hell he's in. So he's mainly the Big Bad of a different story. Though his forces of Undead do occasionally attack the borders they share with Procer (the nominally biggest "Good" nation, though it tends to be more like the Holy Roman Empire with Byzantine levels of intrigue and backstabbing among it's nobles), and is distrusted and disliked by all the other "Good" aligned nations.


I've reread this section several times and I'm struggling to make sense of it. How does the fact that Chris has black hair have anything to do with what the Lieutenant said before that? It just seems like a weird non-sequitur to me.

Chris is one of the Callow trainees she'd be training and thus one of those who would "owe" her. Since Tanya is concerned about that debt being used to demand sexual favors, she's pointing out that at least one of the trainees does in fact match the Lieutenant's preference of "brunette," though Tanya is doing it mainly to be annoying and pedantic, since she knows Chris is not someone the Lieutenant would be interested in.
 
I didn't expect Tanya to be this self-aware, to be honest. I may have read too many other fanfics in which she was convinced that she was the best at social interaction.
One of the biggest ironies of this fic is that Tanya realizes she's really bad at social interactions just as she finally gets better at them.


Well, Lieutenant Killian seems nice. Or, at least, not a complete asshole. :rolleyes:

Surprisingly nice for a Praesi is one of those horrible phrases you just don't say for fear of being racist but can't come up with anything better.
 
Surprisingly nice for a Praesi is one of those horrible phrases you just don't say for fear of being racist but can't come up with anything better.
If their culture literally and openly glorifies evil and scheming, is it really racist? Because, I mean, if you said the opposite to someone like Akua or Malicia it would probably be a compliment, depending on how you phrase it.
 
Nobody speaks it in the sense that nobody speaks latin; there's a known spoken version but it's not used for much of anything, especially relative to how often the written form is used.
Ah, but how do we know that we are speaking Latin in the same way it was spoken back when it was a living language? (I'm obviously not being serious here, but I do have a serious point. See below.)

A friend of mine, who has a degree in Classics, told me that we don't actually know how the people of the ancient world pronounced the names of their gods and heroes. We have our own conventions and traditional ways of saying those names, but unless we can build a time machine and actually travel back to antiquity, we have no way to know that we're speaking those ancient languages in the same way that the native speakers of those languages would have done, so long ago. Linguistic drift happens all the time and people usually aren't aware of it. (I'm not saying that my friend is entirely correct about that – and I'm sure that some of you will want to argue the point – but I think it's interesting to think about.)

EDIT: For example, in Elizabethan England, the name of the Ancient Greek hero Ajax was usually pronounced "a-jakes", which meant that Shakespeare was able to turn it into a rude joke. Nowadays, it's usually pronounced "ay-jacks" or "aye-acks", depending on whether you pronounce the "j" or not.

As its a minor spoiler, but it gives some context,
Spoilers about Trismegistus
Spoilers about Trismigestus
Hmm. Thank you.

Chris is one of the Callow trainees she'd be training and thus one of those who would "owe" her. Since Tanya is concerned about that debt being used to demand sexual favors, she's pointing out that at least one of the trainees does in fact match the Lieutenant's preference of "brunette," though Tanya is doing it mainly to be annoying and pedantic, since she knows Chris is not someone the Lieutenant would be interested in.
There is a good reason why I was completely baffled by that: "brunette" is one of the exceedingly few words in the English language which is gendered (because it was originally a French word). Strictly speaking, only women can be brunette. When Lieutenant Killian said that she prefers brunettes, I automatically assumed that she was saying that she is attracted to dark-haired women. A man can be "dark-haired" or "brown-haired" or "black-haired", but he cannot be "brunette" unless he becomes a woman.
 
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There is a good reason why I was completely baffled by that: "brunette" is one of the exceedingly few words in the English language which is gendered (because it was originally a French word). Strictly speaking, only women can be brunette. When Lieutenant Killian said that she prefers brunettes, I automatically assumed that she was saying that she is attracted to dark-haired women. A man can be "dark-haired" or "brown-haired" or "black-haired", but he cannot be "brunette" unless he becomes a woman.
The male form is Brunet, which isn't pronounced differently, right? (Also, I don't think it's nearly as used) So it's not like Tanya could hear a difference.

Also, do people in APGTE speak English? It could just be an imperfect translation.
 
The male form is Brunet, which isn't pronounced differently, right? (Also, I don't think it's nearly as used) So it's not like Tanya could hear a difference.

Also, do people in APGTE speak English? It could just be an imperfect translation.

No one in PGE speaks english per say, but Lower Miezan, not sure on the spelling there, which Callow largely speaks is the approximate equivalent. Praes also speaks it largely but every culture has their own sub-languages.

Edit: I noticed this may leave the impression that Praesi languages were like dialects of Lower Miezen. That is not the case. Lower Miezen is more of a second language used as the common language between the various groups of the empire.
 
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There is a good reason why I was completely baffled by that: "brunette" is one of the exceedingly few words in the English language which is gendered (because it was originally a French word). Strictly speaking, only women can be brunette. When Lieutenant Killian said that she prefers brunettes, I automatically assumed that she was saying that she is attracted to dark-haired women. A man can be "dark-haired" or "brown-haired" or "black-haired", but he cannot be "brunette" unless he becomes a woman.

Okay, but does English have a word that means "black-haired person"? Because Killian is bisexual, and I don't know how to say that in-text in that particular instance without sounding tacky.

"I prefer brunets and brunettes" would be completely redundant from the pronunciation perspective and again, doesn't sound remotely like anything anyone would say for real.
A friend of mine, who has a degree in Classics, told me that we don't actually know how the people of the ancient world pronounced the names of their gods and heroes. We have our own conventions and traditional ways of saying those names, but unless we can build a time machine and actually travel back to antiquity, we have no way to know that we're speaking those ancient languages in the same way that the native speakers of those languages would have done, so long ago. Linguistic drift happens all the time and people usually aren't aware of it. (I'm not saying that my friend is entirely correct about that – and I'm sure that some of you will want to argue the point – but I think it's interesting to think about.)

Yeah, that is pretty interesting. From the story side the point is that there is an accepted way to pronounce Higher Miezan, because like in the Middle Ages or Renaissance and Latin, the Higher Miezan does still enjoy somewhat infrequent usage, only instead of theology and science, it's mostly used in magic and sometimes, poetry.
 
The male form is Brunet, which isn't pronounced differently, right? (Also, I don't think it's nearly as used) So it's not like Tanya could hear a difference.
I have never seen "brunet" (the male equivalent) used in English. I'm fairly sure that people wanted a cute word to describe women but didn't bother to import the male equivalent as well.

Yeah, if you looked in a large enough English dictionary, you could probably find "brunet" in there, but it's not in common usage.

Okay, but does English have a word that means "black-haired person"? Because Killian is bisexual, and I don't know how to say that in-text in that particular instance without sounding tacky.

"I prefer brunets and brunettes" would be completely redundant from the pronunciation perspective and again, doesn't sound remotely like anything anyone would say for real.
Sorry, this is one occasion where the English language doesn't leave you any easy options. The best that I can suggest is to have Killian say something like, "I don't like blonds." (In English, "blond" and "blonde" are gendered, but both are in common usage and pretty much interchangeably. In fact, it can be argued that, in English, "blond" is unisex.)

EDIT: Because English isn't a gendered language – at least not usually or intentionally – you could argue that "brunet" should be acceptable as a descriptor for both sexes. However, as I said, "brunet" is not in common usage. If you use it, you will confuse people (if only for a few moments).
 
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I'd argue that Brunette is unisex in English since that's the one people actually use.
If that was true, I wouldn't have been so confused by how it is used in the section of this story which I quoted above.

Yeah, if you say that a man is a brunette, most people will know what you mean, but that doesn't make it any less sloppy.

EDIT: I realise that I've belaboured the point for long enough and that this is almost on the verge of a derail, so I will stop here. It's just that the use of language is something I feel very passionate about: I favour precision and understandability in my writing as well as in the fics that I like to read.
 
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This is absolutely delightful, my favorite currently running Youjo Senki fic, and something I will be watching avidly in the future.
 
This is absolutely delightful, my favorite currently running Youjo Senki fic, and something I will be watching avidly in the future.

I honestly don't think I'm as good ( or prolific ) as A Young Girl's Delinquency Record, but I'm sure glad to hear your words!
Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

On the off chance you didn't know about it, go check it out on SpaceBattles or *coughs* Questionable Questing, Gremlin Jack just started updating it again after almost a year.

Anyway, good news
Think I'll get the next chapter out quite sooner than I expected, since I get to study only three days on the next week due to holidays
... eh, I'll certainly try to, but it could also quite realistically result again in me finishing it in a month

Well, that's it I guess
And thank you again.
 
On the off chance you didn't know about it, go check it out on SpaceBattles or *coughs* Questionable Questing, Gremlin Jack just started updating it again after almost a year.

Oh right, I'd forgotten it had updated again!

Well, Delinquency Record has a long history and plenty of buildup behind it, so it does win out. But at the point when YWDR was as long as your aPGtCR is now, I say they'd match up pretty evenly. I really look forward to seeing where this story ends up, and how far it goes.
 
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