Keani
C̵͍̈t̷̼̓h̴̀ͅŭ̶̹l̴̡̈u̸̫͗ ̶̟͌F̵͚́h̶̠͊t̶͍͌ă̷̺g̴̯̊n̷
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On the first two sentences complete and utter agreement. On the last 2 sentences I question the relevance of that?
A New Dawn (XCOM/Mass Effect)
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We won't get as much as you think from them. Especially cuz there is no real large grouping all of them tend to be independent operations that don't like working with each other or with others.
Keani
C̵͍̈t̷̼̓h̴̀ͅŭ̶̹l̴̡̈u̸̫͗ ̶̟͌F̵͚́h̶̠͊t̶͍͌ă̷̺g̴̯̊n̷
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Eh, I'm not really worried about how much I can get from any one source. I'm more worried about getting as much as we can no matter the source and that I don't want to disregard useful things from useful sources.
Cuz really, we can't afford not to give our all, we can't afford not to take our all. If there is anything we could gain from anyone and we're not gaining it because "they aren't important enough" we're screwing ourselves over.
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maybe it will probably be something similar to The way we sphere Central America and the Caribbean instead of individual so doesn't really matter. still think it's easier and better to go with the other governments instead of with the terminus but whatever we'll see what happens when we meet up m
Keani
C̵͍̈t̷̼̓h̴̀ͅŭ̶̹l̴̡̈u̸̫͗ ̶̟͌F̵͚́h̶̠͊t̶͍͌ă̷̺g̴̯̊n̷
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Again, I just don't want to disregard any potential gain. I'm sure there are things anyone can provide us that somebody else cannot provide better.
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Maybe like I said we'll have to see when we meet them.
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So you got any input for the coming war turns?
What is causing the chemical reaction? To my knowledge, water isn't used in any reaction in the human body, it's just a solvant.
Fezzes
Knight of King Stannis Baratheon
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Uh, sure. My eyes have been glazing over a bit at this much talk, so I don't know what's already been said, but committing ground forces is probably a bad call. Instead we should stick to the air. We've put no effort into upgrading our ground forces, and while a hundred-thousand-strong force of Veteran troops would have certainly have a good influence on the ground, we'd probably see heavy casualties. To a populace that's been largely sheltered from the worst of war in recent times, that's going to be a shock, one which will likely turn them against further military alliance foreign interventions.
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Well I would suggest that any airfields they have get bombed immediately. It is a shame we don't have something like the Helicarrier because we could literally set up base camp in any part of China. Other than that... don't bomb civilian centres, intercept their aircraft and if possible take out their military command centre.
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We have aircraft carriers. They don't fly, but they're good enough to serve as launch platforms.
Given the strength of the Japanese navy and our navy, I think we can safely park an aircraft carrier close enough to mainland China to hit a majority of their airfields. Japan has already reduced them in number and quality, and we can support them to finish the job.
Honestly, if the Japanese forces have kept them to an essential stalemate, and Russia has stopped sending them mercs (due to the end of contract) I'm pretty sure that adding a bit of the US military might will let us get a relatively quick win.
The real question is if we have a joint command with Japan or if we put our forces under their nominal command. I'm in favor of joint command, especially since it'll give us more tactical/strategic information on their military capabilities. That'll give us a leg up in how to incorporate them into the US military when we gain the technology and/or absorb Japan diplomatically.
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China has subs and one redacted naval unit though so would rather not risk our carriers, our air force once transported can base out of japan for strikes, as it is china has almost no air force or tanks to speak of. Not sure if the China/Japan forces were posted here or discord.
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Right now the plan is to send the Navy portion that can be spared along with a part of the new Air Force. We have no need to send ground troops in Japan has enough robotic infantry to cover it. Japan is doing the invasion of Korea and the ports and location it wants. We are there to support them by bombing all military assets and production facilities that are left. We also need to sink what is left of the Chinese navy.
We do not need a helicarrier our planes already have the range needed to hit those targets the are going to be stationed in Japan for the war and on our Carriers as well. We are not just hitting the planes. China only has a few left. We are destroying all there remaining MBTs, IFVs, APCs, Artillery, and as much of their infantry as we can find. As factories are getting blown up along with all remaining bases and complexes that Japan does not plan to occupy. This will not mean we are targeting civilians there will by civilians killed, but that is part of war and collateral damage. Unless the CCP tries to use there civilians as a shield we will be leaving them alone. If they do we will do our best to minimize the deaths but will still target the military assets.
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Knight of King Stannis Baratheon
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Excellent. In that case, I've no input. That's what I'd want to be happening.
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So we are just waiting on an update now correct? Do we have an ETA on that?
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We are but the QM is also working on the war turns. Those are going to take awhile.
the water is getting contaminated by a variety of things
pretty much everything on a space station is going to need some amount of water in some way whether it be for cooling or for conversion into fuel the water is going to be changed into a variety of things that we cant turn back into water for a variety of reasons and even when its just used as a solvent it picks up contaminants
Contaminated water is still water. You got as much water in there as always, no part of it stopped being water. And you can pretty easily (considering how much power we got) pull out everything that isn't water. The only time it stops being water is with a chemical reaction, which won't be happening too often. We'd be dipping into emergency reserves if we gotta turn our water into fuel.
there are plenty of things we cant seperate from water without using mounts of power we just cant produce
purifying 99% of our water is simple and easypurifying 99.9% is a moderate chalenge and will take a not insignificant amount of power purifying 100% is basically impossible
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You're right. We only just got out of a war that killed billions because of space invaders. Let's make vulnerable habitats that are hard to defend and easy to cut off supply because- surely the worst has passed amirite? Pay no attention to the slaving, 4-eyed space Norks- let alone the fucking collectors who are inevitably going to be sideeying the shit out of us because all this weird tech we have. If we're not building colonies like self-contained fortified arcologies- we are doing things terribly wrong.
Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
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- United States
"Every world a Fortress World". I like it. Also, considering how we'll be fighting a war to end all wars, having a more militarized society (or at least on an equal level to the canon Systems Alliance) would be good for both self-reliance/security (if we don't fully join the citadel races) and for being more prepared for the Reapers.
How much energy would we need? Because we have but loads of it.
Plus, at just 99.9% efficiency, that is 100 cycles before we even lose 10% of our water. 99.9% is well close enough
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We are pushing for way more militant that the canon systems alliance. Those are the people that let their colonies get attacked because they had no real defenses. We are going to be much more diligent in building up our colonies.
Also Here is the current make up of some of the war turn. This is what we know is available in the theater. The first turn will involve us choosing how to transport our muntions and assets to Japan.
Japanese Military:
--Available US Navy:
---2 Supercarriers (CV, Elite)
---6 Heavy Cruisers (CA, Elite)
---30 Light Cruisers (CL, Elite)
---100 Destroyers (DD, Elite)
---10 Nuclear Attack Submarines (SS, Elite)
--Navy:
---3 Escort Carriers (CVE, Elite)
---4 Battlecruisers (CC, Elite)
---13 Light Cruisers (CL, Elite)
---97 Destroyers (DD, Elite)
--Army:
---500,000 Light Infantry Vehicles (Veteran)
---15,000 Ground Attack Helicopters (Veteran)
--Air Force:
---1127 Fighters (Veteran)
---134 Light Bombers (Veteran)
---27 Torpedo Bombers (Veteran)
Chinese Military (Estimated):
--Navy:
---1 Heavy Cruiser (CA, Angelus Mortis)
---20 Frigates (FF, Trained)
---50 Corvettes (C, Trained)
---? REDACTED (REDACTED, Elite)
---? Nuclear Attack Submarine (REDACTED)
--Army:
---1,200,000 Infantry (Veteran)
---5,700,000 Conscripts (Militia)
---100 Main Battle Tanks (Elite)
---100,000 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (Militia)
---1,600 Mobile Howitzers (Veteran)
--Air Force:
---120 Fighters
---12 Heavy Bombers
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Off-hand, that totally redacted entry is probably Chinese Ballistic Missile Submarines. They may or may not have nukes on-board, but they probably do have heavy cruise missiles.
Otherwise, it's not a really complicated war situation, given the massive disparity in aerial and naval strength. Deploy as much of the Navy in ASW ops as necessary, push out screening and reconnaissance forces to check the PLN, and deploy airpower to bury the PLN in a tide of fusion missiles and/or ASW torpedoes. Make appropriately token efforts at controlling Chinese airpower and hitting airbases with air-launched cruise missiles. Pointing and laughing optional.
Otherwise, it's not a really complicated war situation, given the massive disparity in aerial and naval strength. Deploy as much of the Navy in ASW ops as necessary, push out screening and reconnaissance forces to check the PLN, and deploy airpower to bury the PLN in a tide of fusion missiles and/or ASW torpedoes. Make appropriately token efforts at controlling Chinese airpower and hitting airbases with air-launched cruise missiles. Pointing and laughing optional.
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