A Nation's Virtue
南國山河南帝居
[X] Plan Enjou 1.0
Fiiiiine.
Fiiiiine.
A Man’s Dream Never Dies: A One Piece Quest
- Thread starter Mazrick
- Start date
- Location
- United Kingdom
Zoro is way way way behind us at this point. And Mihawk would disagree quite strongly on multiple swords being better.
And, yea, using a Sword doesn't mean it has to be the entirety of your combat style like it is for Zoro. We don't have to aim for "Best Swordsman in the World", just a really fucking good one because unlike Zoro we'll be using other things too.
More likely it just gives us a higher rank in that particular skill; Veteran instead of Skilled for example.
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He's behind at the moment. Unless you're gonna kill him he'll work to catch up. Besides, I'd rather not compete with him for the title and let him have it.
Mihawk has his own style, which involves a daiklave sized blade. It's not a matter of better, it's all about the rule of cool trope. This is One Piece. Normal rules of sensible combat function don't necessarily apply. I mean for crying out loud there's a guy whose combat style revolves around using his nail shaped head as his primary weapon...
That's not what it says. It says specialization, which to mean indicates it'll be much more than that. Again, @Mazrick can confirm one way or another.
Also, the choice is between being an Unarmed fighter and a Weapons user. That is clearly a different training path.
- Location
- Australia
[X] Plan HastyGaming
Looks good to me.
Looks good to me.
- Location
- United Kingdom
That's not guaranteed. Though it's certainly possible.
It also doesn't matter in the slightest.
Also, again, just because we're using a sword doesn't mean we're competing with him. We're not trying to become the Worlds Best Swordsman, we're trying to become Pirate King.
Everyone but us is allowed to be cool when using swords?
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- Location
- USA
Why would he catch up? We're strong and aiming to be stronger, which would involve becoming a bad ass swordsman. We can be both the strongest Swordsman and Pirate King. Hell, those things could be synonymous if you say the bring Pirate King requires you to be the strongest to sail the seas.
A Nation's Virtue
南國山河南帝居
So I was talking to Mazrick, and he had this to say if we stacked Tekkai, Veteran Armament Haki, and Strength and Durability.
So...yeah. Who wants laugh off cannonballs to the face?
[X] Plan ANV 2.0
Same as Enjou's, only going for Tekkai instead of Soru this time.
Mazrick: ANV: So how tanky would we be if we stacked Tekkai, strong and durable, and veteran Armament Haki? | VERY. Durable as fuck.
Mazrick: Veteran is pretty much current Luffy level of Armament Haki, I think
So...yeah. Who wants laugh off cannonballs to the face?
[X] Plan ANV 2.0
Personality traits
-[] Tekkai
[] Strength and durability
[] Raise Armament from Skilled to Veteran
- Driven
- Ambitious
- Charming
- Cunning
- Distrustful
- Prideful
- Wrathful
-[] Tekkai
[] Strength and durability
[] Raise Armament from Skilled to Veteran
Same as Enjou's, only going for Tekkai instead of Soru this time.
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Given what becoming the Pirate King entails, being a sword user and World's Best Swordsman is pretty much the same thing. If you have the Pirate King title, you're pretty much one of the strongest people in the setting, and probably THE strongest person at that point. If you haven't already beaten Mihawk (or whoever might have taken his title) by then, he will come to challenge you to a match regardless of whether you want the title or not, and the Pirate King couldn't really back down from that.
And let's not forget that your plan has someone who is Driven, Ambitious, and Prideful - do you really think such a character wouldn't aim for both titles if they're a swordsman?
He'll probably catch up because he'll train like hell, and the narrative would demand it. Also, I'm not saying we can't be both, but that I just don't want to be - let him have that title, we can fight in a different style.
- Location
- Spain
Personality traits
-[] Sword
[] Creativity and perception
[] Raise Observation from Untrained to Beginner
- Driven
- Eccentric
- Charming
- Cunning
- Distrustful
- Prideful
- Wrathful
-[] Sword
[] Creativity and perception
[] Raise Observation from Untrained to Beginner
I´m choosing eccentric and charming because it will be much funnier to play with.
Since we are a renegade marine, prideful and wrathful seems the flaws that made us abandon the marines in the first place.
Sword because in One Piece all the strongest weapons users are swordmen.
I prefer creativity over agility or strenght, since it will open more options in our fights, especially when we are facing with oppo
The observation haki because, as awesome the conqueror is, it´s only useful in large scale battles with mooks, observation synergizes much better with armor than armor with conqueror, and once unlocked, we can level up by ourselves.
- Location
- the Netherworld Dood
[X] Plan da Balck Daka
Because really Guns are under rated in this verse especially in the hands of someone who can reinforce them with Haki and guide them with precog. this build also has the benefit of people underestimating it how many times has Luffy or a Logia user let themselves get shot "knowing" that they would be fine from a mere bullet? a Haki infused arrow was able to break trees (note that was Fodder Haki pre new world) a Haki infused Bullet would be an awesome weapon.
Speed because we are ranged build that can just plug away at our foes from a safe distance and even if we take blows our Adamant Haki would allow us to tank
Observation Haki because it works great with Guns and our already high Adamant Haki
Personaility traits
[X] Punny ( bad puns as often as he can)
[X]Eccentric
[X]Cunning
Flaw
[X] prideful
[X] Weapon User- You've trained and specialize with a weapon. While you know the basics of other types of combat, such as Rokushiki, you are incredibly skilled with your chosen weapon. (No harpoons!)
[X] Speed and agility
-[X] Guns
[X] Raise Observation from Untrained to Beginner
[X] Punny ( bad puns as often as he can)
[X]Eccentric
[X]Cunning
Flaw
[X] prideful
[X] Weapon User- You've trained and specialize with a weapon. While you know the basics of other types of combat, such as Rokushiki, you are incredibly skilled with your chosen weapon. (No harpoons!)
[X] Speed and agility
-[X] Guns
[X] Raise Observation from Untrained to Beginner
Because really Guns are under rated in this verse especially in the hands of someone who can reinforce them with Haki and guide them with precog. this build also has the benefit of people underestimating it how many times has Luffy or a Logia user let themselves get shot "knowing" that they would be fine from a mere bullet? a Haki infused arrow was able to break trees (note that was Fodder Haki pre new world) a Haki infused Bullet would be an awesome weapon.
Speed because we are ranged build that can just plug away at our foes from a safe distance and even if we take blows our Adamant Haki would allow us to tank
Observation Haki because it works great with Guns and our already high Adamant Haki
- Location
- United Kingdom
You're missing the point. For Mihawk, for Zoro, the sword is their everything. For us it's just a single component of our combat style. Yes we'll be able to beat them (Mihawk eventually) but there's a decent chance they'll still be a better swordsman.
And not taking a Sword just because someone else dreams of becoming the worlds best is silly...
Honestly, with basic Tekkai and Skillful Armament I assume that'll be possible already. And given we were a Rear Admiral in the Marines and some of the stuff about our backstory it'd be weird as hell if we couldn't take at least that.
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A Nation's Virtue
南國山河南帝居
I just want to be the toughest guy in the world.
- Location
- the Netherworld Dood
If he's that worried about it maybe just switch to a diferant weapon? i mean we don't have to use a sword.
- Location
- Just passing through.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Plan HastyGaming
- Location
- United Kingdom
Remember that Prideful trait you're choosnig? Don't be surprised if Mazrick makes a swordsman's pride part of the character. Remember that our choices are only giving Mazrick guidance to make the character, but like in many prior quests he'll flesh the character out in the way he feels is appropriate. The various choices do not exist in a vacuum.
Not wanting to mess with established characters' dreams is not at all abnormal for quests like this.
Also, like I already said I want to punch things.
- Location
- the Netherworld Dood
Really? Pirates used Guns, Picks,Clubs really anything they can get their hands on we can swashbuckle just fine with something else
For example trench knives work well with your current plan
Guns are both Piratey and work well with the plan ( already made my argument for their usefullness0)
Mazrick
Shai'tan
- Location
- The Pit of Doom
Specialization means you gain XP faster than would otherwise be possible. And at different tiers new things become available to buy.
- Location
- the Netherworld Dood
Like every other person? Seriously EVERYONE PUNCHES THINGS I want to SHOOT someone with (almost) Sufficient amounts of Haki infused Daka
- Location
- United Kingdom
I'm absolutely happy to use guns... Just not as our primary weapon.
What I'd love to see is a sword as the primary weapon and a pistol as our supplementary weapon.
Melkor
Belegûr
[X] Plan Melkor
Personality traits:
Ambitious
Chivalrous
Cunning.
(Automatically acquired: Driven!)
Personality Flaws:
(Automatically acquired: Distrustful)
Prideful
Wrathful
Weapon type
[] Weapon User- You've trained and specialize with a weapon. While you know the basics of other types of combat, such as Rokushiki, you are incredibly skilled with your chosen weapon. (No harpoons!)
-[] Polearm
Combat Ability
[] Strength and durability
[] Raise Conqueror from Untrained to Beginner
Ambitious
Chivalrous
Cunning.
(Automatically acquired: Driven!)
Personality Flaws:
(Automatically acquired: Distrustful)
Prideful
Wrathful
Weapon type
[] Weapon User- You've trained and specialize with a weapon. While you know the basics of other types of combat, such as Rokushiki, you are incredibly skilled with your chosen weapon. (No harpoons!)
-[] Polearm
Combat Ability
[] Strength and durability
[] Raise Conqueror from Untrained to Beginner
- Location
- the Netherworld Dood
Why though? we can just shoot the guy
and A speedy style of fighting means projectile are far more usefull then a sword
Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
- Location
- The Else
Right, with Mazrick's confirmation that Specialization actually has relevance after character creation I'm going to vote for
[x] Plan Enjou
While swords are cool, punching things is cooler. Broadly speaking specializing in Rokushiki in general seems more useful than swordsmanship. Oh, you can do some crazy stuff with a sword, but you can do crazy stuff without a sword too, and the Six Styles have a great deal of promise!
[x] Plan Enjou
While swords are cool, punching things is cooler. Broadly speaking specializing in Rokushiki in general seems more useful than swordsmanship. Oh, you can do some crazy stuff with a sword, but you can do crazy stuff without a sword too, and the Six Styles have a great deal of promise!