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A Journey of Two, a Pokemon Story

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Leon12431 said:
I would rather it be a limit due to Violet at the moment rather than a hard rule considering that it could easily reach rather silly levels "I can't possibly kill/harm humans that are trying to ruin the world" if attacking trainers is full banned rather than being a thresholded event. Violet wouldn't do it to them just yet, but I could see her eventually choosing to do so if they keep showing up and harassing Pokemon as an example.
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Thinking on it, I'll have it be allowed to use Pokemon moves on D and V. Just after their Pokemon are knocked out. Mostly due to OOC reasons of me wanting to keep this a Pokemon centered battling system rather than making it so that in-universe it makes sense to start building fighter jets to combat Pidgeots and such.

Meridian said:
[X] Support

Fwiw I think using thunder wave on a human is more of a reasonable boundary to cross, especially to prevent poaching... but we should be able to stall out their escape...
And then use self-destruct because D & V dont have protect lmao
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Thunder Wave is something that's definitely more doable.

Sir LagsAlot said:
Daemon Hunter what's our win condition here? If we knock out a trainer's Pokemon these are still criminals so if Violet isn't willing to paralyze them with Thunder Wave they can just run away with the Chansey no matter what. And, with Pokemon humans being far more durable than real-life ones making such an entirely non-lethal I don't really see the problem with it either.
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Thinking on it, I'll change it so that using moves on them is reasonable use of force. Just after their Pokemon are knocked out. So I'll allow any and all moves to be used on them.
 
[X] Over in One
Dratini Turn 1: Recall
Pineco Turn 1: Self Destruct
Dratini Turn 2+: Paralyze V as well as D with Thunder Wave.

If we want to save the Chansey we need to be as fast as possible which means using Self Destruct to wipe the field of every other Pokemon before bringing Dratini back out to paralyze V and D.
 
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[X] Aggressive.

My previous suggestion would have been very out of character for Violet. (but it would be satisfying for me)
 
Hm, tempted to make a version of Support that opts for using thunder wave on D... buuut personally it can wait til after the battle to prevent escape so that they can be arrested / identified.
If we were making fucked up and evil actions, it'd be funny if Violet just went and nabbed their wallets or something. very silly.

As heroic as I want to be, my guesstimation is that they're only trying to steal the singular Chansey.
If we fail to stop them there'll still be the other Chansey left behind.
I expect it's possible that either Luna will befriend the Chansey, or it'll just be our's.
If we stop them.. I wonder if Luna will add the other Chansey to her team, and I wouldn't mind that at all given she's a Nurse Joy tract character, not a gym trainer / true rival. A shame she's not a viable journey trekker, but she isn't the most compatible with Violet longterm anyway.
 
@Daemon Hunter, in regards to using Pokemon attacks against trainers, or more specifically against Team Rocket, we can actually reference the fact that Jesse and James were fine after being blasted constantly by Pikachu. Basically, you aren't going to kill, maim, or even seriously injure someone that can't be fixed with the seemingly advanced bio-technology of the setting. At least not at this juncture.

Besides, the Pokemon probably pull their punches and don't want to kill anything. Our character is a ten year old, so she doesn't want to kill either.
 
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Kankuro said:
Does Twister target multiple enemies like in the game?
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It does yes, although if the two Zubats were on different sides of you it wouldn't. Which isn't the case atm.

Ruirk said:
@Daemon Hunter, in regards to using Pokemon attacks against trainers, or more specifically against Team Rocket, we can actually reference the fact that Jesse and James were fine after being blasted constantly by Pikachu. Basically, you aren't going to kill, maim, or even seriously injure someone that can't be fixed with the seemingly advanced bio-technology of the setting. At least not at this juncture.

Besides, the Pokemon probably pull their punches and don't want to kill anything. Our character is a ten year old, so she doesn't want to kill either.
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True, that's actually what convinced me to allow it. Just due to them being able to tank the moves consistently. As it is, I'll likely make it so that it takes significant, dedicated effort to kill someone. And said effort is only really able to be done after they're fainted. So it's not something that's done in universe.

Meridian said:
Hm, tempted to make a version of Support that opts for using thunder wave on D... buuut personally it can wait til after the battle to prevent escape so that they can be arrested / identified.
If we were making fucked up and evil actions, it'd be funny if Violet just went and nabbed their wallets or something. very silly.

As heroic as I want to be, my guesstimation is that they're only trying to steal the singular Chansey.
If we fail to stop them there'll still be the other Chansey left behind.
I expect it's possible that either Luna will befriend the Chansey, or it'll just be our's.
If we stop them.. I wonder if Luna will add the other Chansey to her team, and I wouldn't mind that at all given she's a Nurse Joy tract character, not a gym trainer / true rival. A shame she's not a viable journey trekker, but she isn't the most compatible with Violet longterm anyway.
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As it is, Violet can tell they'd like both CHanseys, but V doesn't want to get greedy and try to carry one herself. D can, mostly due to being absurdly acrobatic, but V isn't at that level.

As for Luna, that's about accurate for her. She'll be a pretty good resource for you when you're in Cerulean City, plus if you ever need medical help for your Pokemon she's just a call away. But she's sadly not a trainer at the end of the day.

Sir LagsAlot said:
All moves have acted like their in-game counterparts so far so almost certainly yes although I doubt anything except Self Destruct can knock out both Zubat in the singular turn of combat we seem to have.
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That I can confirm, Self Destruct is the only one of your moves that'd knock them out. Well, apart from Bug Bite, but that's a move that'll struggle to hit them.
 
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Daemon Hunter said:
True, that's actually what convinced me to allow it. Just due to them being able to tank the moves consistently. As it is, I'll likely make it so that it takes significant, dedicated effort to kill someone. And said effort is only really able to be done after they're fainted. So it's not something that's done in universe.
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In case anyone brings up the issue of "Well, what if they just start attacking our character as well? Wouldn't it be fair game?" My argument to that is I imagine only a truly depraved individual would willing attack a child that wasn't somehow a life and death situation.

Now, using non-harmful techniques to entrap us, like smoke screens and misdirection, that's way more in line with Team Rocket.
 
Daemon Hunter said:
As for Luna, that's about accurate for her. She'll be a pretty good resource for you when you're in Cerulean City, plus if you ever need medical help for your Pokemon she's just a call away. But she's sadly not a trainer at the end of the day.
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That's about where I was at yeah. Next time we're in Cerulean ask if she would like to do a checkup on our team so that she gets her internship hours in and all that

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Ruirk said:
In case anyone brings up the issue of "Well, what if they just start attacking our character as well? Wouldn't it be fair game?" My argument to that is I imagine only a truly depraved individual would willing attack a child that wasn't somehow a life and death situation.

Now, using non-harmful techniques to entrap us, like smoke screens and misdirection, that's way more in line with Team Rocket.
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Yep, as it is D and V have standards they adhere to. Actually attacking a child is evil even to them. They're more likely to just grab your Pokeballs and leave.

Meridian said:
That's about where I was at yeah. Next time we're in Cerulean ask if she would like to do a checkup on our team so that she gets her internship hours in and all that

[X] Over in One
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I can confirm that'll be an option when you are in Cerulean City next.
 
Huh, so the vote is still tied at the moment. I'll let it sit for another 2 hours or so before calling it in case the tie breaks.
 
Kankuro said:
I don't want to self destruct on poor Growlieth.
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dont want to dogpile here (pun unintended but it's here anyway), but I do want to offer in a different light
Luna and her partner work in Cerulean with intent to professionally work in pokemon medical services.
the power plant is a short trip away, and young trainers are only going to traverse Kanto in increasing numbers over the next decade or two, more than likely.

it's fairly likely that eventually some kid will have an injured, confused, or otherwise easily agitated pineco, or similarly a wild-caught voltorb that needs urgent care.
sooner or later, someone is gonna get hit with a self-damage move like Explosion or Self-Destruct.

I expect Violet will probably apologize for this, but for what it's worth we're giving Luna and Co a bit of real-world work experience if you think about it :V
...that and as a growlithe I expect Luna's buddy will gladly endure this for the sake of others as well
 
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    • Alright, I'll be calling the vote here. Looks like the Pineco grenade wins which I find hilarious.
    Scheduled vote count started by Daemon Hunter on Apr 3, 2024 at 3:14 PM, finished with 25 posts and 9 votes.
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    Alright, so turns out the Pineco grenade is absurdly broken at the current level of Pokemon. It instantly fainted everyone on the board. Unfortunately, Dratini missed. And as I write this, I'm realizing that Dratini quite literally rolled a 22 for each of the rolls related to him, which is a bit hilarious. Ignore the 82 in there, I fat fingered it when rolling for how things went.


    Round 1 V's Zubat: Zubat used Astonish on Growlithe (DC30: 46). Growlithe loses 10% of its HP (90%)
    Round 1 Growlithe: Growlithe used Ember on D's Zubat (DC15: 57). D's Zubat loses 33% of its HP (67%)
    Round 1 D's Zubat: Zubat used Astonish on Dratini (DC25: 22). Dratini dodges!
    Round 1 Dratini: Violet withdraws Dratini
    Round 1 Pineco: Pineco used Self Destruct! Pineco loses 100% of its HP. Pineco's Sturdy keeps them up. Pineco is now at 0.1% HP.

    V's Zubat Tries to Dodge/Mitigate (19). V's Zubat loses 100% of its HP. V's Zubat faints.
    D's Zubat Trieds to Dodge/Mitigate (76). D's Zubat loses 67% of its HP. D's Zubat faints.
    Growlithe Tries to Dodge/Mitigate (57). Growlithe loses 100% of its HP. Growlithe faints.

    Round 2 V: V withdraws Zubat and runs
    Round 2 D: D withdraws Zubat, drops Chansey, and runs
    Round 2 Dratini: Dratini uses Thunder Wave on D and V (DC25: 22, 22). D and V dodge!
    Round 2 Pineco: Violet withdraws Dratini!
     
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    • Daemon Hunter said:
    Alright, so turns out the Pineco grenade is absurdly broken at the current level of Pokemon. It instantly fainted everyone on the board. Unfortunately, Dratini missed. And as I write this, I'm realizing that Dratini quite literally rolled a 22 for each of the rolls related to him, which is a bit hilarious. Ignore the 82 in there, I fat fingered it when rolling for how things went.
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    Self Destruct and Explosion are infamously broken in the first four or so generations of Pokemon exactly because they can wipe any problematic Pokemon off the board in one round, and a lot of really tanky Pokemon that are extremely strong can learn it such as Metagross allowing them to spend several turns in a battle getting value before taking the entire enemy field with them when they're low HP.

    They ended up having to alter the formula of the move by removing its defense reduction to make it even semi-balanced because at least that way a full health wall might be able to survive it rather than it being able to OKO literally every single Pokemon in existence.
     
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