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[X] Magneton - Putting Magneton up against a major type mismatch, they would be pushed to their limits although unlike Forretress they only have one way to extend the battle.
 
[X] Forretress - While she'd almost certainly lose quickly, there are a few tricks you could try to drag it out giving her experience against type mismatches.

Forretress needs all the help she can get
 
Moves From Prior Games
  • Reflect (Psychic, Status, Tertiary, Gen 7, TM. Reduces damage taken by the user and their team from physical attacks by 50%.)
  • Roar (Normal, Status, Tertiary, Gen 7, TM. Forces the target to switch out for a teammate.)
  • Haze (Ice, Status, Tertiary, Gen 7, Egg Move. Resets all stat changes on the entire field.)

Alright, took me longer than the day or two I initially planned on, but for the moves that your Pokemon can learn, Dragonite can learn all three of these through TM.

Moves From Prior Games
  • Toxic (Secondary. Gen 7. Learned via TM. Poison, Status, Accuracy 90. Badly poisons the target.)
Conditional Moves
  • Sand Tomb (Ground, Physical, Tertiary. Power 35, Accuracy 85. Traps the opponent causing them to lose ⅛ of their max health every turn for four or five turns.)

Forretress will be able to learn toxic through a TM

Move From Prior Games
  • Safeguard (Primary. Gen 8. Learned via technical records. Normal, Status. Protects the user's party from status conditions.)
  • Toxic (Secondary. Gen 7. Learned via TM. Poison, Status, Accuracy 90. Badly poisons the target.)
  • Teleport (Primary. Gen 8. Learned via TM. Switches the user out with -6 priority.)

For Blissey, she'll be able to learn Safeguard through TM. But she won't be able to learn Toxic or Teleport sadly.

Moves From Prior Games
  • Reflect (Secondary. Gen 8. Learned via TM. Psychic, Status. Reduces damage taken by the user and their team from physical attacks by 50% for 5 turns.)

Magnezone can learn Reflect via TM.

Moves From Prior Games
  • Heal Bell (Primary. Gen 7. Learned via Move Tutor. Normal, Status. Heals the user's party of status conditions.)
  • Work Up (Primary. Gen 8. Learned via TR. Normal, Status. Raises the user's Attack and Special Attack by 1.)

For Umbreon, as mentioned he'll be able to learn Work Up through a TM. However he won't be able to learn Heal Bell.
 
[X] Forretress - While she'd almost certainly lose quickly, there are a few tricks you could try to drag it out giving her experience against type mismatches.
 
Magneton might actually succeed and this is narratively congruent with it evolving... Wait a minute I was going to say that this would be narratively congruent with Magneton evolving after this battle as a result of us buying a Thunder Stone for it but volcanoes are known for having volatile and strong magnetic fields so if Magneton can win this battle it's liable to evolve naturally alongside Dragonite which fits extremely well narratively considering their nature as battle partners due to their extreme synergy.

Edit: Also damn those are some thiccc Dragonite stats. He's now bulkier than Forretress on average well still hitting like a truck with both stats and being faster than Gengar.

you know, you make a good point. It would honestly be hype as hell if we get two big evolution out of this fight.


[X] Magneton - Putting Magneton up against a major type mismatch, they would be pushed to their limits although unlike Forretress they only have one way to extend the battle.
 
you know, you make a good point. It would honestly be hype as hell if we get two big evolution out of this fight.
Yeah, although doing the math he just gets one shot if he doesn't have rain set up but once that's set up it's a relatively even battle that's perfect for his evolution which means I just need to make a quick adjustment to the vote.

[X] Magneton - Putting Magneton up against a major type mismatch, they would be pushed to their limits although unlike Forretress they only have one way to extend the battle.
- [X] Have Dragonite stay in, and use Rain Dance. After that, the objective is to get Magneton in safely even if it means fainting to do so.
 
[X] Magneton - Putting Magneton up against a major type mismatch, they would be pushed to their limits although unlike Forretress they only have one way to extend the battle.
- [X] Have Dragonite stay in, and use Rain Dance. After that, the objective is to get Magneton in safely even if it means fainting to do so.


you know, I wonder if it's rude or expected that you use gym battles as a whetstone, fighting somewhat sub-optimally sometimes to better strengthen your team.
 
[X] Dragonite - Keeping Dragonite in will allow him to learn how to properly fly and adapt to his new body. Although that could also be done via standard training.

A gym battle is no place to make your pokemon learn about type disadvantages. Win the badge and get practice elsewhere. Don't be rude.
 
Alright, took me longer than the day or two I initially planned on, but for the moves that your Pokemon can learn, Dragonite can learn all three of these through TM.
Meh, a day or two versus a week or two what's the difference?
For Blissey, she'll be able to learn Safeguard through TM. But she won't be able to learn Toxic or Teleport sadly.
This is tyranny! Tyranny I say! You can't just take my teleports behind you memes away like that! How will we ever strike fear into the hearts of our foes now without a teleporting pink fluff ball at our disposal? Wait a minute... Slowbro learns Teleport prior to generation eight along with his mountain of other Psychic moves... And, he learns Trick Room...

Alright, lads lock-in we're picking up a Slowbro so I can teach them Teleport, and Trick Room solely so that during the Indigo League I can have Slowbro use Trick Room to outspeed the opposing Pokemon and then use Teleport which has -6 Priority to appear behind them at which point Slowbro will be able to immediately attack them from behind because the turn will roll over, and he'll outspeed allowing him to successfully pull off this meme.


Being more serious for a second, Slowbro being able to learn Teleport among a variety of other useful moves whereas Lapras by comparison doesn't really see her move pool expand much even when digging into prior generations has at this point firmly solidified Slowbro as my choice for our seventh Pokemon. Same, role that Lapras would have fulfilled it's just a Slowbro does it better.
For Umbreon, as mentioned he'll be able to learn Work Up through a TM. However he won't be able to learn Heal Bell.
Fair enough, he does already learn Refresh. And thanks for looking into the moves from older generations for the team sheet.
For that, it's generally considered normal albeit uncommon to use it as a whetstone. It's only considered rude if you're over levelled to the point that you'd not get much out of fighting sub optimally.
[X] Dragonite - Keeping Dragonite in will allow him to learn how to properly fly and adapt to his new body. Although that could also be done via standard training.

A gym battle is no place to make your pokemon learn about type disadvantages. Win the badge and get practice elsewhere. Don't be rude.
As you can see it's normal and accepted to use gym battles as a whetstone plus that's how Violet has treated League-sanctioned or otherwise friendly battles throughout the entire quest, only really putting forward her full effort when she participates in unsanctioned battles or when pushed to her limits like in the Pokemon Tower. But I would agree that putting in Forretress is sandbagging too hard, and she wouldn't even gain much from it, especially in comparison to Magneton who could evolve from this battle.
 
[X] Magneton - Putting Magneton up against a major type mismatch, they would be pushed to their limits although unlike Forretress they only have one way to extend the battle.
- [X] Have Dragonite stay in, and use Rain Dance. After that, the objective is to get Magneton in safely even if it means fainting to do so.
 
This is tyranny! Tyranny I say! You can't just take my teleports behind you memes away like that! How will we ever strike fear into the hearts of our foes now without a teleporting pink fluff ball at our disposal? Wait a minute... Slowbro learns Teleport prior to generation eight along with his mountain of other Psychic moves... And, he learns Trick Room...

Alright, lads lock-in we're picking up a Slowbro so I can teach them Teleport, and Trick Room solely so that during the Indigo League I can have Slowbro use Trick Room to outspeed the opposing Pokemon and then use Teleport which has -6 Priority to appear behind them at which point Slowbro will be able to immediately attack them from behind because the turn will roll over, and he'll outspeed allowing him to successfully pull off this meme.

This would unironically be a terrifying combination to face that'd effectively be unavoidable. It's an excellent way to counter more dodge focused Pokemon.

In other news, due to a business trip, the vote will be open till Tuesday and the next update will be out Wednesday.
 
[X] Magneton - Putting Magneton up against a major type mismatch, they would be pushed to their limits although unlike Forretress they only have one way to extend the battle.
 
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