arthurh3535 said:
Except for being pulled back to Lytek's cabinet to be scrubbed. The Exaltation is *bound* to the Monstrance so that the Neverborn and their Deathlords can control where it goes after death and then can be released to to connect with a mortal. I see nothing that states that the twisted Exaltation won't revert to 'default return to home' settings if the Monstrance is not available. It is what is imposing an external control, not a setting in the Exaltation.
That it might come out of Lytek's cabinet a bit odd is certainly a possibility. But at heart, it's still a Solar Exaltation, just twisted and bound to a magical artifact of extreme potency.
False. An Abyssal Exaltation is utterly inverted from a Solar one. It's turned inside out, running off necrotic Essence rather than the Essence of the universe, and the branching possibilities of the Solar one instead merge into one pointed blade pointed at the heart of the universe. It's permanently like that; the Monstrance is only a control mechanism to allow the Deathlords to decide who Exalts, not anything to do with the actual Shard.
And I'm pretty sure that it's in the 2nd Edition Abyssals book that it goes into freeroaming mode, and exalts people that are dying in the attempt to be heroic. That's not an Ink Monkeys thing.
I did understand that the Monstrance couldn't do the work of converting a Solar Exaltation by itself, but it is key to the actual process. Without a Monstrance, at the moment of death the Exaltation would just head back to Lytek to be 'reset' and sent to another worthy soul.
False. And it's an N/A Artefact used in the ritual, yes, but it's not a fundamental part of the Exaltation.
Who's to say that Autothecton (SP?) couldn't fix them himself if he were given a heads up on the issue? They are his design, after all. The Incarnae are only caretakers and can't create their own new Exaltations.
He could repair the GSP ones, because they're basically a Solar one, stripped of its outer layer, with the raw, Primordial-level energies fuelled into emulating multiple Primordials (in fact, theoretically they could be emulating all 25 living Primordials at once, if you could get them to open up their Charmsets). You'd just have to remove the graft and repair the surface.
After all, Solars and Primordials aren't so different. Solar Exaltations are to the Sun, as the Sun is to Malfeas, and by gods, it shows. They're effectively Malfeas's grandchildren.
The Abyssal one is inverted. Turned inside out, running off necrotic Essence, in its natural state. You
can't repair it, because that's how it's "meant" to be. It's dead, unnatural, and living Essence doesn't work well with necrotic Essence. At all. When an Abyssal redeems themselves, they're doing it to themselves, turning it inside-out using necrotic Essence against itself.
arthurh3535 said:
I take Ink Monkeys with a grain of salt. If the mere existence of an Abyssal Exalt were to work towards the destruction of Creation (which they supposedly are) then there would not be quite the worry about losing your Monstrance (from the original Manual of Exalted Powers: Abyssal).
Yeah, the Deathlords are worried about it, because they don't want free Exalts running around. I mean, fuck, what happens if the buggers decide that we're not trying hard enough because most of us don't really want to destroy the world, and actually do destroy it?
But the point is, "Frag the Monstrance, save the world" is trite and dull (much like the atrocious Deathlord stats, which are made of stupid because as statted, the Deathlords could wipe out Creation without needing Abyssals). Abyssal Redemption has to be
earned, and so getting rid of the Monstrance is useful, but not sufficient.
And most of the Ink Monkeys stuff is
just plain better. Apart from their Martial Arts stuff, which they really can't seem to balance (rasser' frassin' Cobra Style).