A Dragon of the North VIII: Whispers of War

... I hate each and everyone one of you who voted in this. Except Charcolt. Charcolt remembered not to do [x] to every gorram sub-header.
I'm a wee bit confused, should it have been something like this?

[X] Plan Apalos
Offer some sort of answer (Write In).
-Tell Oberyn you will answer him in private.
-The man responsible was a Maester Marwyn. He attempted some sort of ritual summoning that ended with himself and several others killed. We have the bodies of what he called at the Hightower if you'd like to have proof, and we'd welcome your assistance in finding the last two.

I'll delete it once I get confirmation. This is not a vote, I just want to learn how to do it properly so that I won't mess up next vote.

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... I hate each and everyone one of you who voted in this. Except Charcolt. Charcolt remembered not to do [] to every gorram sub-header.

:oops:

Well, the solution is obvious, then:

We need to deal with that brown-noser, Charcolt. :mad: ;)

Vote's closed? Damn...was kind of hoping (slim hope, I know) my write-in would gain traction. I forgot to edit my vote too.
 
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Well that comment came from two points. When I went to sleep, the other option was ahead by like ~three votes, so I actually considered this vote a wash for my preferred choice at the time. So this was a pleasant surprise of sorts. The second thing was, well, I believe I made clear what I thought of the motivations behind the other choice. I'm just glad we did not decide to give Oberyn the run around for zero good reason.
 
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I'm not for hostility straight off the bat, but Oberyn has been kind of a dick to Jon both times they've met. I don't see why people are wanting to bend over backwards to be bros with him. Passions run hot with his character, I get it. But it doesn't excuse his actions of talking down to Jon and most importantly pulling a knife on him.

Jon's been caught flatfooted in the shadows of night, right? He had no idea Sarella was in the Citadel let alone killed. He might put two and two together from the Seekers words about Dornish blood during the quick conversation, but I'm sure during the confusion he'd have a few questions. What's Oberyn's daughter even doing at the Citadel? What's with the hostile actions out of nowhere? Why's his ugly face not screaming in agony after Jon melted it off with a fire shout. Okay maybe not the last one. But some posts seem to blow off this start to the interaction. Jon doesn't have a good history of reacting well to others threatening him and his, so why would he be forthcoming with information after Oberyn's actions?

It's already been voted for, so Jon's already going to give some information, but in the coming scenes I could see Jon being rather curt in his responses. And holding a slight grudge.

Side note. Jon's hand to hand is fairly decent. He killed Devan bare handed and broke the Mountain. Maybe we might see Oberyn lose his head again if passions run hot too many times.

Is Jon going to talk to Willas anytime soon? He might want to talk about purchasing some horses as well as talk about a potential leg healing.
 
Is Jon going to talk to Willas anytime soon? He might want to talk about purchasing some horses as well as talk about a potential leg healing.

I've brought up eventually healing Willas in the Rolz chat (not any particular time frame for it) and a few people have been pretty against it, for what I imagine are the same reasons people opposed healing Yohn and Perwyn and anybody else.

Personally I think it's a great idea at some point in this trip, though not right away. So long as we can convince Willas and his family not to go blabbing to everybody they see that we have healing powers we could get a pretty big debt from House Tyrell (being best friends with the heir is almost as good as marrying their daughter in my opinion). We don't even have to reveal that it's magic to most of the family, just say it's an old First Men procedure and only tell Willas the truth (of all the Tyrells he seems most likely to be accepting of mystical nonsense).

As for Oberyn, I understand where people are coming from with this hostility aimed at him, but as you said Jon beat a boy to death with his bare hands simply for murdering a childhood friend. Oberyn lost his daughter and he knows Jon is involved somehow if not how. How would most of us react if a few years down the line little Brynden Stormcrown gets smothered and we hear rumors that Olyvar is running around with a pillow?
 
As for Oberyn, I understand where people are coming from with this hostility aimed at him, but as you said Jon beat a boy to death with his bare hands simply for murdering a childhood friend. Oberyn lost his daughter and he knows Jon is involved somehow if not how. How would most of us react if a few years down the line little Brynden Stormcrown gets smothered and we hear rumors that Olyvar is running around with a pillow?

Why am I kicking this dead horse? Oberyn's feelings wouldn't matter to Jon at the moment, all he knows is he's being threatened. But Jon did kill Gregor, Oberyn is owed for that, and avenged his daughter, who cares if Oberyn treats him like the stable boy :rolleyes:; an IC response would be out of the question.

@Rabbit that was the vote though-- whether Jon would have a terse response.
 
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I have zero problems with Oberyn's response. On Willas, I'm fine with healing him...much, MUCH later. It's best not to heal him until he reaches Friend at the very least.
 
I've brought up eventually healing Willas in the Rolz chat (not any particular time frame for it) and a few people have been pretty against it, for what I imagine are the same reasons people opposed healing Yohn and Perwyn and anybody else.

Personally I think it's a great idea at some point in this trip, though not right away. So long as we can convince Willas and his family not to go blabbing to everybody they see that we have healing powers we could get a pretty big debt from House Tyrell (being best friends with the heir is almost as good as marrying their daughter in my opinion). We don't even have to reveal that it's magic to most of the family, just say it's an old First Men procedure and only tell Willas the truth (of all the Tyrells he seems most likely to be accepting of mystical nonsense).

Depends on how the interactions with the Tyrells goes. And we'd need to get a better idea of what they think about magic and mystical stuff in general before doing anything.

On principle, I'm more inclined to heal Willas than Perwyn though. Healing Perwyn brings us (brought us) nothing, as he already owed us for his lordship and the fact that we took his brother as squire. Which was why I didn't want to heal Perwyn, nevermind the unecessary risks.


@Rabbit that was the vote though-- whether Jon would have terse response.

It wasn't even terse. It was just, 'Look, I'm not at liberty to blab about it, how about you ask the Hightowers if you truly wish to know what happened to your daughter. Because we're kind of on their turf.'
 
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Why am I kicking this dead horse? Oberyn's feelings wouldn't matter to Jon at the moment, all he knows is he's being threatened. But Jon did kill Gregor, Oberyn is owed for that, and avenged his daughter, who cares if Oberyn treats him like the stable boy :rolleyes:; an IC response would be out of the question.

@Rabbit that was the vote though-- whether Jon would have terse response.
Yeah, I liked Oberyn's response better than if he would have just walked up to us. It showed that he cared for his daughter, plus he's being straight in his feelings and intentions to Jon which is very much preferable to a polite and smiling man who is going to poison you if he believes it's Jon's fault for his daughter's death.
 
Yeah, I liked Oberyn's response better than if he would have just walked up to us. It showed that he cared for his daughter, plus he's being straight in his feelings and intentions to Jon which is very much preferable to a polite and smiling man who is going to poison you if he believes it's Jon's fault for his daughter's death.

I understand Oberyn's actions but it's a very stupid move to do to someone like Jon.. or maybe not.
 
I have zero problems with Oberyn's response. On Willas, I'm fine with healing him...much, MUCH later. It's best not to heal him until he reaches Friend at the very least.

While it might be less risky to do the healing later, I'm a bit worried it might be too late at that point. We already know that Olenna has plans and Mace wants to marry his daughter to a prince or king. If we want Jon to marry Margaery we need to do something big to get one of them on our side before they betroth her to someone else. With Willas being Olenna's favourite, healing him should get her on Jon's side.

Also, Willas might be classed as a friend already. Droman hasn't changed the relationships on the source for a while, so we don't know exactly what any of the Tyrell's and Lannister's Jon has just met are classed as and Willas is certainly acting closer to Jon than some of his acquaintances.

As for revealing the thu'um we brought Yohn for a reason, if we play our cards right that won't be necessary.
 
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I've brought up eventually healing Willas in the Rolz chat (not any particular time frame for it) and a few people have been pretty against it, for what I imagine are the same reasons people opposed healing Yohn and Perwyn and anybody else.

Personally I think it's a great idea at some point in this trip, though not right away. So long as we can convince Willas and his family not to go blabbing to everybody they see that we have healing powers we could get a pretty big debt from House Tyrell (being best friends with the heir is almost as good as marrying their daughter in my opinion). We don't even have to reveal that it's magic to most of the family, just say it's an old First Men procedure and only tell Willas the truth (of all the Tyrells he seems most likely to be accepting of mystical nonsense).

I like your thinking. Nothing immediate. If we like him we help him at our leisure.

As for Oberyn, I understand where people are coming from with this hostility aimed at him, but as you said Jon beat a boy to death with his bare hands simply for murdering a childhood friend. Oberyn lost his daughter and he knows Jon is involved somehow if not how. How would most of us react if a few years down the line little Brynden Stormcrown gets smothered and we hear rumors that Olyvar is running around with a pillow?

Hopefully he's learned enough since then to gather information and investigate before just pulling the trigger. Or swinging the sword, whatever. I'm sure most would be out for blood, but discretion and forethought go a long way in making sure who's to blame gets their comeuppance. We wouldn't want to bash Olyvar's skull to a bloody paste without hearing him out first. Maybe he was framed in our hypothetical situation. That's what keeps us from pulling a Loras and killing other members of the rainbow guard.

@Rabbit that was the vote though-- whether Jon would have a terse response.

I wasn't very clear. The vote was to tell him information about his daughter and what's going on, so he will. I just think his answers wouldn't be all that readily forthcoming. If I'm forced to interact with someone that's been rude I don't want to talk to them any more than I have to. Yes, No, Magic demons ate her face, Don't believe me? Go fuck yourself. I want the aggressive unstable ones subdued and calmed down. Then we can talk.

But that's me. That's how I react. And when we read these updates we try to envision how we would react. But I can see how this can go different ways, and that's alright. I'll be happy either way. Different choices might make me less happy, but if everything went the way we wanted this game/story would be a lot less fun.
 

For those who don't read the rolz chat.

FaeryG: What do you all do piss Droman off this time

Brandark: The Oberyn thing, I think? It's been pretty quiet for a while.

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Sidhenlae: I thought that was just Droman's way of showing affection

CrimsonMoon joined

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CrimsonMoon: Droman-senpai is so tsun~

FaeryG set the topic to: Please notice us, Droman-sempai!

FaeryG: kek

Brandark: I was holding that in! Why must you give in to the temptation?

CrimsonMoon: Because I can resist everything but temptations

Brandark: lol

FaeryG set the topic to: Droman-sempai so kawaii! Desu!

FaeryG: heh

Sidhenlae: o_O

FaeryG: kek

Brandark: You sure like to live on the edge, Faery.

FaeryG prepares himself for teh rage

CrimsonMoon: ...oh god I can't unsee Droman as a waifu in an harem anime

CrimsonMoon: Why did you do this to me Faery, why?!

FaeryG: top.

FaeryG: fucking.

FaeryG: kek.

Brandark: The update withdrawal has reached terminal stage.

Sidhenlae: ^

CrimsonMoon: We have gone beyond terminal I'm afraid

Brandark: Subjects, please imagine Droman's current avatar as haremm anime waiu. I want to note down your reactions.

Brandark: *waifu

CrimsonMoon: ...you are into furry shit Brandark?

Brandark: Nope. Just bored.

CrimsonMoon: Okay, good.

Sidhenlae: Please refrain from aggressive outburts, this session is merely meant to assess your mental health and advise us on further treatment.

CrimsonMoon: ...better than that, imagine Droman, Mazrick and Zooboss as anime characters

Sidhenlae resists giving in to the madness.

FaeryG: http://i.imgur.com/lEaI51D.png

Brandark: The update's gonna be delayed by an year or so ater Droman reads the logs.

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Brandark: *after

FaeryG: kek

Brandark: ...

CrimsonMoon: TOP FUCKING KEK

Brandark: Dat timing!

Sidhenlae: Impeccable timing, as always, Droman!

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Droman: update will indeed be delayed by a year

Brandark: ...

Droman: enjoy the next 365 days, folks

Droman: and yes

CrimsonMoon: Completely worth it.

Droman: this is legit

Droman: bye

FaeryG: look at what I made with editing the html! http://i.imgur.com/lEaI51D.png

Droman left

Brandark: Well...

FaeryG set the topic to: Totally Worth It

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Brandark: That happened.

droman should probably ban japanese/weeaboo terms if they piss him off.
 
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I will honestly be surprised if doman has many players if he keeps it to a whole year. Or if he gets many participating in his other quests.
 
Seriously, what the hell happened? All I'm seeing is a bunch of useless crap, than Droman's popping in to say the next update ain't coming for exactly a year!
 
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